Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Leonhart2017 said: Yoh man I have never been there but my friends have I definitely believe that story from what I have heard about that place! Too many bad stories to tell about that bar, so many fights in that place and the bouncers were just as bad. A lot of WWF wrestlers would go there Stone Cold, Goldberg and Big Sexy to name a few. My brothers girlfriend owned a limo company at the time and we would be so messed up at this bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 7 hours ago, CuddyDark said: You want it to be Beane walked away but it's more likely Beane was rejected. If Beane worked out a deal with the Steelers and then told Rosenhaus he wouldn't give Brown the highest WR salary, then it's definitely Beane walking away. That's what it looks like right now. I don't think Beane offered Brown $19 mil / year and Brown turned it down. That would be the only way you could see it as a rejection. 29 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: If the Bills were willing to make the deal, which they were by all accounts, there is no reason to believe they wouldn't give him a slight bump in salary considering they have all the cap space in the world. AB didn't want to come to Buffalo. It is what it is. Again, I think it has less to do with playing in Buffalo than it does Beane not giving him the moon. If that's the case, I think Beane should be applauded for sticking to his guns instead of breaking the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 44 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: It actually is the case, he did say in more words or less, screw Buffalo This tweet doesn’t make sense to me. What am I misunderstanding here? If Antonio Brown went on Instagram live and said that, why would this guy need to say “per sources”? I’m not too familiar with instagram, but If AB actually said that on Instagram live, wouldn’t it have been widely reported? Who’s twitter account is that anyway? The handle says “Mission to bring the best FA to NOLA for Brees. He DESERVES more than just one ring. Let's make it happen.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Keep those posts coming. We must we working on some kind of 24 hour record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Herc11 said: I could say the same for NYC. The fact is LA, SD, and SF represent a minuscule part of California. I used $100,000 because that was an easy number. I'll show you a $500,000 house where I live and a $500,000 house in Buffalo will pail in comparison and will run significantly more in taxes. Doubt it, unless you live somewhere like Temecula. Then, they’d be roughly the same house, only you’d be stuck way out in Temecula. Quote When your money is going to materials, construction, and land you get much more bang for your buck than when its going to the government. Plus there is that little part where the house and land can increase in value and you can make more. When that value goes up in Buffalo you just pay more and more in taxes. I bought a great townhouse in downtown Buffalo, right on the lake, in 1999 for $120K, sold it a few years ago for $380. Taxes didn’t go up that much, because it was never re-assessed while I owned it. With everything that’s going on downtown and on our waterfront these days, I regret it. In a couple of years, it could fetch $500K. Plus it was 10-15 minutes away from everything, including Ralph Wilson Stadium. If you buy the right property, it will always appreciate, no matter where. . Edited March 9, 2019 by The Senator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: This tweet doesn’t make sense to me. What am I misunderstanding here? If Antonio Brown went on Instagram live and said that, why would this guy need to say “per sources”? I’m not too familiar with instagram, but If AB actually said that on Instagram live, wouldn’t it have been widely reported? Who’s twitter account is that anyway? The handle says “Mission to bring the best FA to NOLA for Brees. He DESERVES more than just one ring. Let's make it happen.” This tweet is fake news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: It actually is the case, he did say in more words or less, screw Buffalo I'd like to see him retire. So would Pittsburgh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: This tweet doesn’t make sense to me. What am I misunderstanding here? If Antonio Brown went on Instagram live and said that, why would this guy need to say “per sources”? I’m not too familiar with instagram, but If AB actually said that on Instagram live, wouldn’t it have been widely reported? Who’s twitter account is that anyway? The handle says “Mission to bring the best FA to NOLA for Brees. He DESERVES more than just one ring. Let's make it happen.” IG Live is a real time feed, so if this DaBossJohn guy is not on IG Live, someone who is probably has to send him the real time feed - copy and paste. That would explain his sources comment. I'm not on IG, IG Live, Twitter, etc; I just read how it works since I was curious. This twitter account is, from what I can tell, some guy (DaBossJohn) who is obviously at least a big Saints fan. Don't know how much more than him being a fan, though he mentioned knowing someone/having contacts in the organization in one of his tweets a while back. He was right about AB not going to Buffalo when we were all giddy from the Rappaport and NFLN breaking news that said a deal was near done. So we'll see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 I actually still think we are 1 of 3 teams. We now get a report that we were confident that he would come...I think it's all just posturing by both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 34 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Keep those posts coming. We must we working on some kind of 24 hour record. How big was that one Dunkirk Don thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Hebert19 said: I actually still think we are 1 of 3 teams. We now get a report that we were confident that he would come...I think it's all just posturing by both sides. I actually believe the same thing and we will finalize it tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: IG Live is a real time feed, so if this DaBossJohn guy is not on IG Live, someone who is probably has to send him the real time feed - copy and paste. That would explain his sources comment. I'm not on IG, IG Live, Twitter, etc; I just read how it works since I was curious. This twitter account is, from what I can tell, some guy (DaBossJohn) who is obviously at least a big Saints fan. Don't know how much more than him being a fan, though he mentioned knowing someone/having contacts in the organization in one of his tweets a while back. He was right about AB not going to Buffalo when we were all giddy from the Rappaport and NFLN breaking news that said a deal was near done. So we'll see. Thanks. I figured instagram live was probably the same thing as Facebook live. Well... I’m sure we will find out. I would imagine it will be reported by a bunch of the major sports news outlets if he actually did say that about buffalo. That’s the type of quote that makes headlines. I would guess that there were numerous sports reporters watching his IG live broadcasts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Thanks. I figured instagram live was probably the same thing as Facebook live. Well... I’m sure we will find out. I would imagine it will be reported by a bunch of the major sports news outlets if he actually did say that about buffalo. That’s the type of quote that makes headlines. I would guess that there were numerous sports reporters watching his IG live broadcasts. IMO, New Orleans makes a lot of sense, maybe the most sense. They are in the NFC so Pitt won't have to face AB and they have an open window to get to the SB. More so than GB since there will be some growing pains with a new coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 32 minutes ago, The Senator said: Doubt it, unless you live somewhere like Temecula. Then, they’d be roughly the same house, only you’d be stuck way out in Temecula. I bought a great townhouse in downtown Buffalo, right on the lake, in 1999 for $120K, sold it a few years ago for $380. Taxes didn’t go up that much, because it was never re-assessed while I owned it. With everything that’s going on downtown and on our waterfront these days, I regret it. In a couple of years, it could fetch $500K. Plus it was 10-15 minutes away from everything, including Ralph Wilson Stadium. If you buy the right property, it will always appreciate, no matter where. . You do realize California is not only Southern California, San Diego, and the Bay area, right? I live in Fresno, which is pretty comparable in size to Buffalo. We get the same complaints, just like Buffalo from outsiders about nothing to do here etc... I mentioned that wrong above though. What I should have said is, a $3-4,000 mortgage/month here will get you far more than a $3,-4,000/month mortgage there. Example: $500,000 house at .9% property tax (Ca avg) is $4,500 a year. Monthly payment is $1983.20 (It made me use an interest rate so I used 1%) $375 of which is to taxes-- $135,000 total going to the gov't during the mortgage. To get a house with a similar payment in Buffalo you're looking at: $410,000 at 1.880% property tax is $7,708 a year. Monthly payment is $1961.06 and $642.33 is going to taxes. That's $90,000 in house you are not getting---- $231,240 in taxes going to the gov't during the 30 year mortgage. Almost $100,000 in taxes MORE. Oh and that same $500,000 house in Buffalo is $9,400 a year in taxes. Monthly payment is $2,391.53 with $783.33 going to taxes and $282,000 in taxes over the course of the mortgage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 I'm not at all surprised this deal didn't go through. I don't blame Beane for trying, but at age 30, AB's skills will be on the decline going forward. I also doubt guys like AB or even Tyrell Williams even want to come here. I know I'll get flamed for it, but why would a WR want to play with a QB that throws so many off target passes? I think the Jets would have a better shot at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 The entire off season with the Antonio Brown fiasco I’ve been saying “I don’t care where he goes as long as it isn’t Buffalo”. I can’t believe it almost actually was Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) Stop bickering back and forth if it’s just you guys fighting do it in DM post doesnt need to be bumped bc you got your feel feels hurt Edited March 9, 2019 by mikemac2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Just now, mikemac2001 said: Stop bickering back and forth if it’s just you guys fighting do it in DM post doesnt need to be bumped bc you got your feel feels hurt People do come here to converse, correct? I mean that is the whole premise of a message board. Also, people can disagree in a conversation without it being an argument. Shocking, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Herc11 said: People do come here to converse, correct? I mean that is the whole premise of a message board. Also, people can disagree in a conversation without it being an argument. Shocking, I know. Yes but I mean sometimes it goes off topic and can become annoying. Just like this it has nothing to do with AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mikemac2001 said: Yes but I mean sometimes it goes off topic and can become annoying. Just like this it has nothing to do with AB Actually it did... it stemmed off the people suggesting taxes are an issue when an athlete is considering going to Buffalo. Some people were under the understanding property taxes were higher in Ca (since he may go to Oakland, which I know Oakland is only temp) than B-lo and I was giving examples that they are not. Edited March 9, 2019 by Herc11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, GreggTX said: I'm not at all surprised this deal didn't go through. I don't blame Beane for trying, but at age 30, AB's skills will be on the decline going forward. I also doubt guys like AB or even Tyrell Williams even want to come here. I know I'll get flamed for it, but why would a WR want to play with a QB that throws so many off target passes? I think the Jets would have a better shot at it. Any other tricks in your bag ? Saying Josh Allen stinks in every post you make is getting stale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Herc11 said: You do realize California is not only Southern California, San Diego, and the Bay area, right? I live in Fresno, which is pretty comparable in size to Buffalo. We get the same complaints, just like Buffalo from outsiders about nothing to do here etc... I mentioned that wrong above though. What I should have said is, a $3-4,000 mortgage/month here will get you far more than a $3,-4,000/month mortgage there. Example: $500,000 house at .9% property tax (Ca avg) is $4,500 a year. Monthly payment is $1983.20 (It made me use an interest rate so I used 1%) $375 of which is to taxes-- $135,000 total going to the gov't during the mortgage. To get a house with a similar payment in Buffalo you're looking at: $410,000 at 1.880% property tax is $7,708 a year. Monthly payment is $1961.06 and $642.33 is going to taxes. That's $90,000 in house you are not getting---- $231,240 in taxes going to the gov't during the 30 year mortgage. Almost $100,000 in taxes MORE. Oh and that same $500,000 house in Buffalo is $9,400 a year in taxes. Monthly payment is $2,391.53 with $783.33 going to taxes and $282,000 in taxes over the course of the mortgage. OK OK... my head is spinning. Yes, California is a large state with many nice places. I’ve been to Fresno and all over the state - lived in San Francisco for seven years. I’m glad you like it there in Fresno - it’s a beautiful place to live. Plus no earthquakes or mudslides, though the wildfires affect the air quality. And, BTW, God Bless your wife and all the good folks who work at Roswell. They took great care of my brother, and they take excellent care of me. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, Herc11 said: Actually it did... it stemmed off the people suggesting taxes are an issue when an athlete is considering going to Buffalo. Some people were under the understanding property taxes were higher in Ca (since he may go to Oakland, which I know Oakland is only temp) than B-lo and I was giving examples that they are not. Ya I saw the first post about it 4 pages ago but it gets to a point you hijack a thread. It can have a factor thread but not when it’s jsut the same people going back and forth about something not really relative .....I’m done tho not trying to hijack the thread was just making a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 This has been one of the better FA stories in some time. Reminded me of Mario Williams at first and now devolved into the Bryant Johnson experience lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 This explains basically that they were just kicking the tires and backs up my supposition that it didnt make sense to make a deal unless it was a low round pick. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2019/03/08/antonio-brown-steelers-closing-deal-bills-per-report/3101244002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Logic said: The thing that drives me nuts about people knocking the city of Buffalo is that you never hear the same sort of crap about Cincy, Cleveland, or Pittsburgh, all of which are EASILY as "bad" as Buffalo. And as for the cold weather, people never seem to complain about Green Bay being "Siberia", despite the fact that I'd be willing to bet it has more snow games than Buffalo or at least an equal amount. we just need to start winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 2 hours ago, The Senator said: OK OK... my head is spinning. Yes, California is a large state with many nice places. I’ve been to Fresno and all over the state - lived in San Francisco for seven years. I’m glad you like it there in Fresno - it’s a beautiful place to live. Plus no earthquakes or mudslides, though the wildfires affect the air quality. And, BTW, God Bless your wife and all the good folks who work at Roswell. They took great care of my brother, and they take excellent care of me. . Sorry, I was bored and tired of studying, perhaps got a little carried away lol... Yes, Roswell is a wonderful place. I'm actually going to be doing rotations through the oncology unit here at the big children's hospital in a couple weeks. Not sure if I am man enough to be able to work in that environment. My wife was only able to for about 4 years and it took a toll on her. Anyways, I wish you the best in your battle. F#ck Cancer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Herc11 said: My wife loved working there. We only moved because I was Active Duty AF and got orders. We actually contemplated going back to Buffalo when I retired, but those property taxes were a major issue for me. It's a shame cause we loved it there. I don't think property taxes are the issue to the players... However state taxes are a HUGE issue. They are already taxed at 37% federally. You can go to PA and only add 3.07% onto that or you can go to Cali and add 13.3% on top (NY is 8.82%). Teams in those states have to pay the player significantly more to compensate for losses to taxes to equal teams from lower taxed states (or none, like FL and TX). Check this article out. https://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/bryce-harpers-mega-millions-baseball-contract-how-it-compares-to-other-offers-after-taxes Don't they only pay income tax for where where the games are played? So only 8 in NY, 1 guaranteed to be in NJ, Massachusetts, and Florida. Also in a salary cap league, the variance in which teams can offer is smaller. It's not like baseball. Edited March 9, 2019 by Ol Dirty B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Hebert19 said: I actually still think we are 1 of 3 teams. We now get a report that we were confident that he would come...I think it's all just posturing by both sides. I think the opposite now. I believe last night we genuinely were, but then Brown started getting blasted on social media by thousands of people & all around the sports talk world. Then he caught wind, threw out his disapproval, and the Bills realized if Brown felt this strongly against coming to the Bills, this probably wasn't a battle worth fighting. And even if we somehow coaxed him to sign by throwing a ton of money at him, it's still not going to make him enjoy the city or buy into the team any more than before, so why risk him taking the cash & settling for the bare minimum? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herc11 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said: Don't they only pay income tax for where where the games are played? So only 8 in NY, 1 guaranteed to be in NJ, Massachusetts, and Florida. Also in a salary cap league, the variance in which teams can offer is smaller. It's not like baseball. Yes, they pay where they play. So you have to figure half of your games are taxed at that rate with the possibility of more in the playoffs. I believe the contract is divided up per game, at least that's what people always make it sound like. I just used Bryce Harper because it was recent and a huge contract. Pretty crazy when you see how much they get taken out. Going from like near $30 mil annually to an actual take home of like $14 mil. I'm sure they get some pretty good accountants to help with tax breaks. Makes you wonder about the true purpose of some of the charities players start. I'm not suggesting all. I do realize some like Kelly's were started due to a personal situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, BigDingus said: I think the opposite now. I believe last night we genuinely were, but then Brown started getting blasted on social media by thousands of people & all around the sports talk world. Then he caught wind, threw out his disapproval, and the Bills realized if Brown felt this strongly against coming to the Bills, this probably wasn't a battle worth fighting. And even if we somehow coaxed him to sign by throwing a ton of money at him, it's still not going to make him enjoy the city or buy into the team any more than before, so why risk him taking the cash & settling for the bare minimum? Yea that post saying they feel more confident we are one of three teams is pretty much denial. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Herc11 said: Sorry, I was bored and tired of studying, perhaps got a little carried away lol... Yes, Roswell is a wonderful place. I'm actually going to be doing rotations through the oncology unit here at the big children's hospital in a couple weeks. Not sure if I am man enough to be able to work in that environment. My wife was only able to for about 4 years and it took a toll on her. Anyways, I wish you the best in your battle. F#ck Cancer! My best to you as well. I can imagine how difficult it is for all medical professionals to see patients suffer, but see the children suffering and dying from this awful disease must be heartbreaking. I know it breaks my own heart when I see them. Keep up the good work, and keep the faith. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Any other tricks in your bag ? Saying Josh Allen stinks in every post you make is getting stale. Says the guy who said the same thing about Tyrod in every single post for several years straight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: Says the guy who said the same thing about Tyrod in every single post for several years straight... Tyrod made that pretty easy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 44 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Tyrod made that pretty easy. Easy to crusade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 10 hours ago, MPT said: If Beane worked out a deal with the Steelers and then told Rosenhaus he wouldn't give Brown the highest WR salary, then it's definitely Beane walking away. That's what it looks like right now. I don't think Beane offered Brown $19 mil / year and Brown turned it down. That would be the only way you could see it as a rejection. You can believe whatever you want but the Bills had to go into the deal at the start knowing AB wanted to get paid because he said so on national TV. It's more likely AB laughed at the idea of being on the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Just heard Report is out there sayin the bills and Steelers still trying to work out a trade. Stay tuned... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, DBilz2500 said: Just heard Report is out there sayin the bills and Steelers still trying to work out a trade. Stay tuned... Where do you see this? I don’t see that being reported anywhere. Looking like the Raiders at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBilz2500 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Just now, Bills2ref said: Where do you see this? I don’t see that being reported anywhere. Looking like the Raiders at this point. On radio. Let me try to find link for it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Says the guy who said the same thing about Tyrod in every single post for several years straight... 19 yards and a bench ???. Bums gonna Bum. Josh Allen’s 7th year won’t look anything like this ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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