Bills Survivor Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Koko78 said: Them's fighting words. BTW, Robert Kraft has nothing to do with Kraft Foods. Hah I know, it was meant to be a joke next to more serious points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Koko78 said: Them's fighting words. BTW, Robert Kraft has nothing to do with Kraft Foods. Thank god. Otherwise we’d know what the secret ingredient was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 6 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Pegula' to Kraft. He Bob, My 80 year old mother in law is looking for a good time. You game? "She love you long time" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 On 3/23/2019 at 4:55 PM, Rocky Landing said: In terms of legality, it is often the case that a cover up is a more serious crime than the initial crime being investigated. The Watergate scandal is a really famous example of that concept, but there are many more, especially when celebrities, or public figures are involved. I would guess that if you googled something like "cover up worse than crime" you would find many examples, and explanations. I did that and found Br*dy and his smashing of his cell phone. 2 hours ago, Bubba Gump said: Kraft at the owners mtg in Florida this week. As an apology to the NFL and the other owners, he is taking everyone out for cocktugs afterwards. I am sure Kim will enjoy that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 26, 2019 Author Share Posted March 26, 2019 https://twitter.com/themmqb/status/1110635018462875648?s=21 Patriots owner Robert Kraft waived his arraignment and requested a trial by jury on Tuesday in relation to his arrest for soliciting prostitution in Florida. Kraft had previously pleaded not guilty and asked for a non-jury trial when his attorney Jack A. Goldberger appeared in court on his behalf in February. His arraignment was scheduled for Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 What's next, trial by combat? I wonder who he'd get to fight for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: https://twitter.com/themmqb/status/1110635018462875648?s=21 Patriots owner Robert Kraft waived his arraignment and requested a trial by jury on Tuesday in relation to his arrest for soliciting prostitution in Florida. Kraft had previously pleaded not guilty and asked for a non-jury trial when his attorney Jack A. Goldberger appeared in court on his behalf in February. His arraignment was scheduled for Wednesday. Jury trial is his best bet. The whole world knows that the DA was willing to drop charges if he just admitted guilt. Therefore, they don't feel as tho its a big deal and just wanted to save face. Now with that being public knowledge, he thinks he will be able to cause enough reasonable doubt and just walk Scott free. Money talks...and its always been the case. Pisses me off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Jury trial is his best bet. The whole world knows that the DA was willing to drop charges if he just admitted guilt. Therefore, they don't feel as tho its a big deal and just wanted to save face. Now with that being public knowledge, he thinks he will be able to cause enough reasonable doubt and just walk Scott free. Money talks...and its always been the case. Pisses me off ...man that's a tough call.....hope for a sympathetic jury that sides with a 77 year old widower?......OR...a jury that wants to hang 'em because he's rich and famous?.......maybe a bench trial is the better route......crapshoot...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...man that's a tough call.....hope for a sympathetic jury that sides with a 77 year old widower?......OR...a jury that wants to hang 'em because he's rich and famous?.......maybe a bench trial is the better route......crapshoot...... They will just load the jury box with rich old white widowers Edited March 26, 2019 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...man that's a tough call.....hope for a sympathetic jury that sides with a 77 year old widower?......OR...a jury that wants to hang 'em because he's rich and famous?.......maybe a bench trial is the better route......crapshoot...... The fact that its known the DA was willing to drop charges just makes the jury think..."oh well, no big deal. The DA didn't even want to convict him, why should we?" Just now, 3rdand12 said: That will just load the jury box with rich old white widowers Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: The fact that its known the DA was willing to drop charges just makes the jury think..."oh well, no big deal. The DA didn't even want to convict him, why should we?" Yep ...good point about "willingness to drop"....jury of 12 white widowers or 12 willing Asian dollies???...you make the call.... 6 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: They will just load the jury box with rich old white widowers ...maybe 12 willing Asians??........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...man that's a tough call.....hope for a sympathetic jury that sides with a 77 year old widower?......OR...a jury that wants to hang 'em because he's rich and famous?.......maybe a bench trial is the better route......crapshoot...... The jury will decide based on the evidence the DA gets in to trial, not whether they like the rich famous guy. Kraft calling out the DA on this one. I'm guessing the manager who drained his prostate is prepared to say he didn't offer money for the pleasure---that the $100 was 'just the tip". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: They will just load the jury box with rich old white widowers Man, they'd convict him in under a minute if this the best he can do with all his money... https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2019/03/26/robert-kraft-patriots-owner-wants-jury-trial-sex-spa-case/3280866002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 On 3/25/2019 at 2:55 PM, Koko78 said: Them's fighting words. BTW, Robert Kraft has nothing to do with Kraft Foods. ..LMAO!...that would actually be Lurch Kerry's wife, Theresa Heinz Kerry, the heiress to the Kraft/Heinz fortune...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, Lurker said: Man, they'd convict him in under a minute if this the best he can do with all his money... https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2019/03/26/robert-kraft-patriots-owner-wants-jury-trial-sex-spa-case/3280866002/ Yikes. Maybe it would be better to acquit him but make her have to service him for the rest of his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills! Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Man I hope I get picked for Jury duty for once...exciting times here in Jupiter... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chill Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Oh look, another witch hunt from the media... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..LMAO!...that would actually be Lurch Kerry's wife, Theresa Heinz Kerry, the heiress to the Kraft/Heinz fortune...... Regardless, Kraft Macaroni and Cheese is concentrated awesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: The jury will decide based on the evidence the DA gets in to trial, not whether they like the rich famous guy. Kraft calling out the DA on this one. I'm guessing the manager who drained his prostate is prepared to say he didn't offer money for the pleasure---that the $100 was 'just the tip". You keep using the word manager as if her title somehow exonerates him. Can you explain how that makes any sense at all to anyone other than die hard Patriots fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Madness Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Koko78 said: Regardless, Kraft Macaroni and Cheese is concentrated awesome. First off, you need to upgrade your mac n cheese. Get the box of 3 packets of liquid Velveeta, a 1lb box of cavatappi pasta, 2 green peppers, 2 onions and 1.5 lbs of ground beef. Season with hot shot seasoning and when you serve, add Franks. Every once in a while, add taco seasoning when browning the beef. #lipitor ...back to topic, Kraft's lawyer is claiming that the video and the traffic stop were illegal. I cant imagine how he is going to spin that in his attempt to have that evidence withdrawn, but that's his plan. Additionally, depending on how they handle this, it could impact others that were arrested, they could follow suit with whatever tactics Kraft's lawyer comes up with (assuming they don't take the offer that the DA put out there. That combined with the $$ associated with a jury trial over 2 misdemeanors, it puts the DA on the spot to weigh several points. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Man, they could sell tickets to Robert Kraft's trial! Tiger Woods would buy a box for himself and his girls. What a zoo that would be! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Just now, Shaw66 said: Man, they could sell tickets to Robert Kraft's trial! Tiger Woods would buy a box for himself and his girls. What a zoo that would be! Tailgating in the parking lots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, BuffAlone said: Jury trial is his best bet. The whole world knows that the DA was willing to drop charges if he just admitted guilt. Therefore, they don't feel as tho its a big deal and just wanted to save face. Now with that being public knowledge, he thinks he will be able to cause enough reasonable doubt and just walk Scott free. Money talks...and its always been the case. Pisses me off Kraft will find out that it's more difficult to pay off a jury than to pay off a couple of Walt's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc said: Yikes. Maybe it would be better to acquit him but make her have to service him for the rest of his life. That punishes her, not the Pats... want to make Graft (intentionally misspelled) squirm? Steal his picks and split them among his AFC East foes. Now THAT is justice! Edited March 26, 2019 by ROCBillsBeliever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I am NOT looking at the videos when they come out.....BUT I have a friend who may. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, aceman_16 said: I am NOT looking at the videos when they come out.....BUT I have a friend who may. I have no interest in those videos, just as I didn't in that "two girls one cup" video. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Doc said: I have no interest in those videos, just as I didn't in that "two girls one cup" video. ? Wait..... he is using a cup?!?!?? Is it Bratty's private protector? LOL Edited March 27, 2019 by aceman_16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said: You keep using the word manager as if her title somehow exonerates him. Can you explain how that makes any sense at all to anyone other than die hard Patriots fans? Dince she manages a place that purportedly harbors sex slaves, would it not be in her best interest to explain that she was not prostituting herself out at the business she manages? I’m struggling to explain this in a way that even you can grasp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 53 minutes ago, Westside Madness said: First off, you need to upgrade your mac n cheese. Get the box of 3 packets of liquid Velveeta, a 1lb box of cavatappi pasta, 2 green peppers, 2 onions and 1.5 lbs of ground beef. Season with hot shot seasoning and when you serve, add Franks. Every once in a while, add taco seasoning when browning the beef. #lipitor Yes, Velveeta brand is better for adding hamburger. Kraft is best on its own. 54 minutes ago, Westside Madness said: ...back to topic, Kraft's lawyer is claiming that the video and the traffic stop were illegal. I cant imagine how he is going to spin that in his attempt to have that evidence withdrawn, but that's his plan. Additionally, depending on how they handle this, it could impact others that were arrested, they could follow suit with whatever tactics Kraft's lawyer comes up with (assuming they don't take the offer that the DA put out there. That combined with the $$ associated with a jury trial over 2 misdemeanors, it puts the DA on the spot to weigh several points. Looks to me like their first attack is to have his identification suppressed. One article I read talked about how the defense are planning on challenging a stop of his vehicle, which was apparently done solely to identify Kraft as the person who exited the rub'n'tug joint. May or may not be relevant, depending on how clear the video is in showing his face. Either way, I fully expect Kraft's team to pay off the refs to ignore his deflated balls, and then have Goodell burn the tapes afterwards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Just connecting the dots here: Gronk retired yesterday and Kraft wants a trial today. Looks like Mr. Kraft has settled on a legal representative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Dince she manages a place that purportedly harbors sex slaves, would it not be in her best interest to explain that she was not prostituting herself out at the business she manages? I’m struggling to explain this in a way that even you can grasp. Well, logic has clearly passed you by so explaining your "rationale" to anyone will be difficult. Are prostitution and brothels legal in Florida? Is it different if your hooker is the Madame herself? Edited March 27, 2019 by 4merper4mer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Just connecting the dots here: Gronk retired yesterday and Kraft wants a trial today. Looks like Mr. Kraft has settled on a legal representative. Gronk passed the bar? I did NOT see that coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, Augie said: Gronk passed the bar? I did NOT see that coming! After hearing him talk, I doubt there's a bar he's ever passed. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, Augie said: Gronk passed the bar? I did NOT see that coming! He's a baller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Doc said: After hearing him talk, I doubt there's a bar he's ever passed. I’m shocked I didn’t spot him! He’s kinda big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, aceman_16 said: Wait..... he is using a cup?!?!?? Is it Bratty's private protector? LOL They make vajayjay protectors? Edited March 27, 2019 by Bubba Gump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Shaw66 said: Man, they could sell tickets to Robert Kraft's trial! Tiger Woods would buy a box for himself and his girls. What a zoo that would be! Good luck getting seated at a Denny’s during THAT circus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 59 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Well, logic has clearly passed you by so explaining your "rationale" to anyone will be difficult. Are prostitution and brothels legal in Florida? Is it different if your hooker is the Madame herself? wow. hopeless. what's your latest on Oliver Luck. Give us more laughs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: wow. hopeless. what's your latest on Oliver Luck. Give us more laughs. Lol are you seriously saying Kraft just met his girlfriend for a little afternoon delight? Dude it is sad and pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: Lol are you seriously saying Kraft just met his girlfriend for a little afternoon delight? Dude it is sad and pathetic. Why domyounthink Kraft wants a jury trial. I'm truly curious as to why you thinks so. Hit me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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