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20 minutes ago, Juror#8 said:

College degrees are overrated and I think there should be a place for vigilante justice in our society subject to certain parameters. 

I put college degrees up there with ISO certifications. A lot of effort and money spent on convincing people that there is a lot of value in something that has very little. 

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3 hours ago, Steve O said:

I put college degrees up there with ISO certifications. A lot of effort and money spent on convincing people that there is a lot of value in something that has very little. 

Your opinions aren't controversial, they're just ignorant.


Read and learn...and if you're still relatively young, go to school.

 

Unfortunately, a certain demographic in our country has decided college is a waste of time which is a really dangerous place to be as a nation.  

 

http://www.aplu.org/projects-and-initiatives/college-costs-tuition-and-financial-aid/publicuvalues/employment-earnings.html

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17 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

Picard > Kirk

 

Man this one is tough for me - putting me in a weird space.

 

I gotta know ... are you basing this on longevity, verisimilitude, competence, or just overall badassery in the captain’s chair? 

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10 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Your opinions aren't controversial, they're just ignorant.


Read and learn...and if you're still relatively young, go to school.

 

Unfortunately, a certain demographic in our country has decided college is a waste of time which is a really dangerous place to be as a nation.  

 

http://www.aplu.org/projects-and-initiatives/college-costs-tuition-and-financial-aid/publicuvalues/employment-earnings.html

 

Man I don’t know. I have a handful of advanced degrees and professional licenses. They’re finally starting to bear some fruit from a financial rewards standpoint. But I know a ton of folks who are way more financially successful yet they avoided the academic debt factories. 

 

Unless a person is going to school with a professional focus in mind that that degree makes them immediately professionally eligible to do (perhaps after licensure like: engineer, accountant) I think the practical advantageousness of the college degree is a farce.

 

I can get as much edification and intellectual stimulation from a public library for the cost of a quiet afternoon and a library card. I can socialize about something erudite in a reading circle or philosophy group that’s free and meets at any number of groovy places a few nights a week. 

 

Just my opinion ...

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53 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Your opinions aren't controversial, they're just ignorant.


Read and learn...and if you're still relatively young, go to school.

 

Unfortunately, a certain demographic in our country has decided college is a waste of time which is a really dangerous place to be as a nation.  

 

http://www.aplu.org/projects-and-initiatives/college-costs-tuition-and-financial-aid/publicuvalues/employment-earnings.html

 

Those earning vs degrees studies fail to mention that most people who choose to go to college are already smarter and more motivated than average. If you were to eliminate college as a choice, an earning gap would still exist with the same demographics.

 

I remember that one of the speakers at graduation cited a statistic that 50% will NEVER use their degrees. His message was that colleges usher children into the real world by teaching them how to think, instead.- (which used to be a parent's job, but we've destroyed that by compelling two income households).

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

Not everyone should be allowed to have children.  There should be a process whereby individuals are able to demonstrate that they will be competent, loving, and responsible caregivers.

That reminds me of the interviews and background checks that some dog breeders will put you through before you are allowed to buy one of their puppies. It’s harder to get approval for raising a dog than it is to raise a kid. 

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1 minute ago, unbillievable said:

 

Those earning vs degrees studies fail to mention that most people who choose to go to college are already smarter and more motivated than average. If you were to eliminate college as a choice, an earning gap would still exist with the same demographics.

 

I remember that one of the speakers at graduation cited a statistic that 50% will NEVER use their degrees. His message was that colleges usher children into the real world by teaching them how to think, instead.- (which used to be a parent's job, but we've destroyed that by compelling two income households).

 

 

College used to be a place to gain general knowledge, and to demonstrate your aptitude and motivation, and to prove to a prospective employer that you are a good risk. That model died decades ago. Now college is almost the same as a trade school.  Employers want you to hit the ground running. Sadly, the communication and psychology majors of the world haven’t figured this out yet. 

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7 minutes ago, Gray Beard said:

College used to be a place to gain general knowledge, and to demonstrate your aptitude and motivation, and to prove to a prospective employer that you are a good risk. That model died decades ago. Now college is almost the same as a trade school.  Employers want you to hit the ground running. Sadly, the communication and psychology majors of the world haven’t figured this out yet. 

Yeah.  I was a business major in college and all I learned about was abstract theories that bore little relevance to the real world.  Schools do kids a giant disfavor by not preaching the communications aspects of working for a company.  It seems everywhere communication is an issue these days 

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56 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

Yeah.  I was a business major in college and all I learned about was abstract theories that bore little relevance to the real world.  Schools do kids a giant disfavor by not preaching the communications aspects of working for a company.  It seems everywhere communication is an issue these days 

 

My son graduated with degrees in finance and accounting, plus a Masters in accounting. When he joined one of the big accounting firms they gathered all the first year people together and told them “Don’t worry, we are aware that you don’t know anything.” 

 

 

(But without the degree you don’t get in the door.)

 

 

College is certainly not for everyone. 

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2 hours ago, Juror#8 said:

 

Man this one is tough for me - putting me in a weird space.

 

I gotta know ... are you basing this on longevity, verisimilitude, competence, or just overall badassery in the captain’s chair? 

 

For me, it's a matter of competence.  Picard had a much lower casualty rate among the crew.  Plus Picard was never demoted (Star Trek IV) nor was his voyage cancelled after only three seasons

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I was at a luncheon a while back and the speaker was from the economic development commission. He said they could bring more businesses to the area but we don’t have the workers they needed. We have plenty of college educated people looking for jobs, but what they need are welders and electricians, etc. You can have a very nice life doing honest work. 

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2 minutes ago, Augie said:

I was at a luncheon a while back and the speaker was from the economic development commission. He said they could bring more businesses to the area but we don’t have the workers they needed. We have plenty of college educated people looking for jobs, but what they need are welders and electricians, etc. You can have a very nice life doing honesty work. 

Welders....especially specialty welders can make a damn good living.

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