Returntoglory Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Watching the Colts game right now once again they put the graphic up of the offensive ranking from last year of the Colts and then with the addition of their first round pick and additional upgrades, Luck's O-Line is night and day and they are dominant! This has to be the focus of the draft and free agency. 30 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I’m sure that’s the plan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, Returntoglory said: Watching the Colts game right now once again they put the graphic up of the offensive ranking from last year of the Colts and then with the addition of their first round pick and additional upgrades, Luck's O-Line is night and day and they are dominant! This has to be the focus of the draft and free agency. I saw that. Obviously changing from Brissett to Luck matters too along with Reich but I agree, let’s get better up front! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Agreed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Yep ^^ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, Returntoglory said: Watching the Colts game right now once again they put the graphic up of the offensive ranking from last year of the Colts and then with the addition of their first round pick and additional upgrades, Luck's O-Line is night and day and they are dominant! This has to be the focus of the draft and free agency. Quentin Nelson is a beast. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskibreth Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 not news... it's been true since the beginning of football. control the line of scrimmage = win the game. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, Returntoglory said: Watching the Colts game right now once again they put the graphic up of the offensive ranking from last year of the Colts and then with the addition of their first round pick and additional upgrades, Luck's O-Line is night and day and they are dominant! This has to be the focus of the draft and free agency. Granted that we had other fish to fry the last draft (QB) but a lot of people here were down on taking Nelson regardless if we needed a QB. Nelson was the most NFL ready prospect coming out and the last half of the season he showed why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said: Quentin Nelson is a beast. Nelson and Kelly really make that line elite. Good tackles and above average RG, but it's having those two that elevates the entire line. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Their RG is a free agent after this season.. Glowinski. Just sayin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said: I saw that. Obviously changing from Brissett to Luck matters too along with Reich but I agree, let’s get better up front! Brissett also didn't have LG Nelson (R) or RT Braden Smith (R). I also think C Kelly missed almost half the season. Watch Kelly and see how many times he calls out presnap blocking adjustments. Funny Buffalo could use a C, RT and LG. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I think it will be a good year to be a decent UFA OLineman, because there are a lot of teams with mediocre lines. Even the guys we let walk will get picked up somewhere. Some biggish contracts coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotme365 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Couldn’t agree more with OP. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Their RG is a free agent after this season.. Glowinski. Just sayin They aren't breaking up that line. They have the money and the culture to attract him back. He would be a fool to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted January 5, 2019 Author Share Posted January 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: Brissett also didn't have LG Nelson (R) or RT Braden Smith (R). I also think C Kelly missed almost half the season. Watch Kelly and see how many times he calls out presnap blocking adjustments. Funny Buffalo could use a C, RT and LG. No reason we can't aquire all three in the off season whether via the draft or free agency. You want Allen to prosper? Give him the protection all QB's need! Mr GM, build us that wall! ? 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: Brissett also didn't have LG Nelson (R) or RT Braden Smith (R). I also think C Kelly missed almost half the season. Watch Kelly and see how many times he calls out presnap blocking adjustments. Funny Buffalo could use a C, RT and LG. Don’t disagree but bringing back an all pro QB and and offensive minded coach doesn’t hurt is all I’m saying. I defintiely agree we need atleast 3 OL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: They aren't breaking up that line. They have the money and the culture to attract him back. He would be a fool to leave. Yeah you’re probably right but you never know. Good players get to free agency sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I have been posting this for 20 years. As much as we need blocking, don't count on it. A first round corner would absolutely not shock me. In fact if my life depended on making the right guess, I would expect to say hello to the corner from LSU at #9. McClapper passed on Mahomes and Watson to draft a corner. Why wouldn't he pass on a blocker? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, hemma said: I think it will be a good year to be a decent UFA OLineman, because there are a lot of teams with mediocre lines. Even the guys we let walk will get picked up somewhere. Some biggish contracts coming. Yeah, a lot of mock draft team needs are OL. Add to that multiple teams have cash to spend, and the OL is not deep in the draft this year. If Buffalo really wants to address the OL, they may have to overpay a FA or draft unpopular positions early. The Colts took a LG and RT in rounds 1 and 2 to invest in their franchise QB (and a terrific LB they didn't reach for) They also took a TE (Ebron) and WR (Inman) off the scrap heap to add some offensive firepower. I like the plan, and it fits this years scenario for Buffalo. 6 minutes ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said: Don’t disagree but bringing back an all pro QB and and offensive minded coach doesn’t hurt is all I’m saying. I defintiely agree we need atleast 3 OL We agree. My first post on TBD was a LAMP post to try to get Luck, when he was throwing 10-15 yd throws ? 3 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: I have been posting this for 20 years. As much as we need blocking, don't count on it. A first round corner would absolutely not shock me. In fact if my life depended on making the right guess, I would expect to say hello to the corner from LSU at #9. McClapper passed on Mahomes and Watson to draft a corner. Why wouldn't he pass on a blocker? Maybe he wanted to evaluate what he had at QB in his first year. Maybe he didn't want to pick a QB before the GM was onboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Braden Smith is a rookie along with Quentin Nelson. Ryan Kelly is a third year player, and Glowinski is a fourth year player claimed off waivers a year ago. With good coaching and a smart GM, it doesn't take years to build a dominat O-line. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Yeah you’re probably right but you never know. Good players get to free agency sometimes If we're talking Glowinski, it should be known Colts have the most cap space this offseason. $123 million and 40 players under contract. Bills $88 million, 43 under contract https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/ it looks like FA may, may bring in one improvement in FA. A lot of demand, a lot of free cap space, and only a few difference makers or improvements. Otherwise its the draft, and OL is not deep. Will have to 'overdraft' OL. Given the situation, I'm ok 'over drafting' a RT/ LG/ C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Use the FA money to build a line of experienced professionals and keep josh safe. Not a bunch of rookies that are learning the pro game. Get just a pack of veteran maulers that have been coached up at the pro level and can come in and fix the run game on day 1. Use the draft for the skill positions. Fa WR/RB class is weak and the college Olineman are not developed. Fix the Oline in March and add the pass catchers and rbs in April. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: I have been posting this for 20 years. As much as we need blocking, don't count on it. A first round corner would absolutely not shock me. In fact if my life depended on making the right guess, I would expect to say hello to the corner from LSU at #9. McClapper passed on Mahomes and Watson to draft a corner. Why wouldn't he pass on a blocker? Ah, the ole McClapper reference. Still don't get the issue with McDermott clapping. Why is it such a big deal? 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: If we're talking Glowinski, it should be known Colts have the most cap space this offseason. $123 million and 40 players under contract. Bills $88 million, 43 under contract https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/ it looks like FA may, may bring in one improvement in FA. A lot of demand, a lot of free cap space, and only a few difference makers or improvements. Otherwise its the draft, and OL is not deep. Will have to 'overdraft' OL. Given the situation, I'm ok 'over drafting' a RT/ LG/ C I agree there are some teams with a lot of cap but not to the over drafting situation. OL is so different from other positions, starting OL is found in almost every round. If you look at just the sought after Centers becoming FAs they are UDFAs to 1st rounders. Gotta go BPA IMO. Hopefully it’s offense and potentially OL if it’s right. Either way way it sounds like we are on the same page. Let’s get this OL dominant and let Allen just toss bombs. Edited January 5, 2019 by ChanticleerBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Strengthening the oline would solve multiple issues. The bills defense had the worst starting field position in the league. A better oline would likely fix that as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 The proof is in the pudding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 56 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Use the FA money to build a line of experienced professionals and keep josh safe. Not a bunch of rookies that are learning the pro game. Get just a pack of veteran maulers that have been coached up at the pro level and can come in and fix the run game on day 1. Use the draft for the skill positions. Fa WR/RB class is weak and the college Olineman are not developed. Fix the Oline in March and add the pass catchers and rbs in April. 2 of the Colts OL are rookies... I don’t care where the Bills get them from, just get them from somewhere... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 How did you ever think of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, MJS said: How did you ever think of this? I've been reading your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Returntoglory said: I've been reading your posts. My posts are that obvious? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) You need to find the right guys. Glowinski was signed off the scrap heap for peanuts and he's a former 4th rounder. Edited January 6, 2019 by MrEpsYtown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 I think everyone here agrees we need a dominant O-line or would like one. However the Colts drafted Quentin Nelson who has shined. We'd love to find a player like him in this draft but from what I've read/heard/seen, there isnt a player like him available in this draft. Not one who is looked upon as a sure fire dominant all pro type. Jonah Williams has been talked about. Dude is tall but lacks weight. Greg Little or Jawaan Taylor are the only others. One of them at least will surely be gone by the time the Bills select & both have concerns regarding them playing too high & getting pushed around too much. Point is is that its not easy but yeah it'd be nice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) Even Mike Leach will tell you, “It all starts with the offensive line.” I hope Jonah Williams will still be available when we pick 9th, but I doubt it. . Edited January 6, 2019 by The Senator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, MJS said: My posts are that obvious? Just the vague and pointless ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 O line above all else. Matt Paradise and Darryl Williams/Bobbie Massie would make me extremely happy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 It nice to rave about the O-line, but Luck is the highest ranking prospect since Elway. It's the quarterback first and foremost. And they haven't really proven much yet, I mean it's Wild Card Weekend, let's see how far they advance before proclaiming "O-lines win championships!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 minute ago, OJ Tom said: It nice to rave about the O-line, but Luck is the highest ranking prospect since Elway. It's the quarterback first and foremost. And they haven't really proven much yet, I mean it's Wild Card Weekend, let's see how far they advance before proclaiming "O-lines win championships!" Look how Allen was with the garbage in front of him. Our running game? This should be the focus. Give Allen some time and watch our vertical game explode! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 2 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Their RG is a free agent after this season.. Glowinski. Just sayin He didn't look much of a player until this year when they plugged pieces in around him. Is that because he was being asked to cover up too much before? Maybe. Or is it because now he is being covered up by better players around him? Also possible. I am not paying big FA money to find out. There are better options out there. I think he is the most replaceable piece on that line. 25 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: You need to find the right guys. Glowinski was signed off the scrap heap for peanuts and he's a former 4th rounder. Yep. His career history before this season is being on atrocious lines both in Indy and Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Bangarang said: I’m sure that’s the plan Dont count on it. Nothing McBean has dones so far tell me they value OL. I would expect some more budget signings like Bodine. And certainly no top 10 picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, Returntoglory said: Look how Allen was with the garbage in front of him. Our running game? This should be the focus. Give Allen some time and watch our vertical game explode! I want them to have a great O-line too, I'm just noting that it's easy to get caught up in over glorifying a unit right after a playoff game. I'm not convinced that the O-line is the most important factor in professional football. Obviously, it's important to have a good line, but let's not get ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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