dave mcbride Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) He was just named a first team all-pro. This comes after PFF rated him as the highest corner in the league (90.7). If I recall correctly, he was best in the league in terms of completion pct on balls thrown his way, and he led the AFC in pass breakups with 20. He was second overall in that category; Kyle Fuller, the other all-pro, had 21. Edited January 4, 2019 by dave mcbride 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JerseyBills Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) Great year for Gilmore Really no way to downplay it . He has always had the physical tools to be a great CB and it looks like everything fell into place this year. With that said, I'm still very happy he is not a Bill , mainly for the contract size. Very pleased with Tre,Levi and Taron going forward ,all on rookie deals. Edited January 4, 2019 by JerseyBills 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Good for Gilmore, he's been a solid player for a long time now. I do think playing in the AFC East helps his stats a lot, but still a good player regardless. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Whaley sucks. Too bad Gilmore didn’t smile on draft day!!! 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 who??? ***** Gilmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 He never performed to that level as a Bill. He was capable, high end....but had shortcomings....particularily his unwillingness to stick his shoulder in their against the run. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: He never performed to that level as a Bill. He was capable, high end....but had shortcomings....particularily his unwillingness to stick his shoulder in their against the run. He definitely played at a high level in Buffalo, yet somehow the refs have now stopped calling ticky tack PI on him. Amazing how that affects DB rankings. 14 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 The badmouthing of Gilmore when he was on the Bills was insane. He’s always been a very good and often great corner. Yes, he got too many penalties but many of them were unwarranted. 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Gilmore also gets beat, as he did by Robert Foster a few weeks ago. I do think that playing for New England definitely raises his profile. 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: The badmouthing of Gilmore when he was on the Bills was insane. He’s always been a very good and often great corner. Yes, he got too many penalties but many of them were unwarranted. I don’t know if it was insane. There were several games - in particular in 2015 - where he was beat by middling recievers. He was above average most of the time but he had his moments, not unlike Tre White for a few weeks this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napmaster Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Can't pay Gillmore when you give Dareus $100M. I sure miss Whaley. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: He never performed to that level as a Bill. He was capable, high end....but had shortcomings....particularily his unwillingness to stick his shoulder in their against the run. Being good against the run is nice for a corner and all, but that's not why they're paid and it's not how they're assessed. Most plays in the league are passing plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: I don’t know if it was insane. There were several games - in particular in 2015 - where he was beat by middling recievers. He was above average most of the time but he had his moments, not unlike Tre White for a few weeks this season And virtually everyone here thinks Tre is great, which is why the Gilmore criticism was insane. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, BillyWhiteShows said: Gilmore also gets beat, as he did by Robert Foster a few weeks ago. I do think that playing for New England definitely raises his profile. Dude, every corner is going to get beat. It’s an impossible postition to play. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: And virtually everyone here thinks Tre is great, which is why the Gilmore criticism was insane. I have to think it's because Tre's persona is more excited and happy as opposed to Gilmore. Frankly, I don't think it matters, but emotion is everything nowadays. The bit Tre did with the hockey goalie stuff though is pretty funny. I could never see Gilmore doing anything like that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, napmaster said: Can't pay Gillmore when you give Dareus $100M. I sure miss Whaley. So you are knocking Whaley for drafting Gilmore and then paying an all pro DT? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Who ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, BillsVet said: I have to think it's because Tre's persona is more excited and happy as opposed to Gilmore. Frankly, I don't think it matters, but emotion is everything nowadays. The bit Tre did with the hockey goalie stuff though is pretty funny. I could never see Gilmore doing anything like that. Agreed. Absolutely love Tre. But that has nothing to do with abilities at corner, nor should it have anything to do with liking someone’s play or not liking it. Fans in general often like a player’s play based on things with zero to do with the actual playing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Dude, every corner is going to get beat. It’s an impossible postition to play. True but the best cornerbacks make big plays in big moments. I felt Gilmore didn’t really step up when you needed him to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Great year for him and a great player. However, might I please just add something that came up the day, or day after he was drafted by the Bills. Someone on WGR brought up to a Bills rep, or someone from an outside media source, that he seemed extremely disinterested during his media interview, and essentially, disinterested in being a Buffalo Bill. The person interviewed quickly responded, no no, that's the way he is all the time. low key, cool as ice. Well into the McBeane Era and seeing how thing have changed, and even given later Patriot interviews by Gilmroe where he admitted to being a me guy I can't help but believe...yeah...the guy honestly didn't want to be here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: Agreed. Absolutely love Tre. But that has nothing to do with abilities at corner, nor should it have anything to do with liking someone’s play or not liking it. Fans in general often like a player’s play based on things with zero to do with the actual playing. If Gilmore has Tre White’s personality, fans would have loved him. Just now, BillyWhiteShows said: True but the best cornerbacks make big plays in big moments. I felt Gilmore didn’t really step up when you needed him to. Good cbs often don’t make big plays but they aren’t target. Gilmore would shut down Antonio Brown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills92 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I guess I still harbor a grudge.. but every time I see Gilmour.. I see Chris Hogan running past him getting a TD with Gilmour clearly giving up on the play (October 2016).. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, Bills92 said: I guess I still harbor a grudge.. but every time I see Gilmour.. I see Chris Hogan running past him getting a TD with Gilmour clearly giving up on the play (October 2016).. First corner to ever give up a touchdown! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 This shouldn't surprise anyone. He was an excellent corner here, and now he's being used by a coaching staff that somehow always finds a way to get more out of players than any other staff. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: If Gilmore has Tre White’s personality, fans would have loved him. Good cbs often don’t make big plays but they aren’t target. Gilmore would shut down Antonio Brown. “Good cbs often don’t make big plays but they aren’t target” HUH?!?!?!? English?!? I stand by my claim.....Very good CB, not one of the Top 5 best. At least not when he was in Buffalo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wsam4031 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 He had a good year but 1st team all pro top 2 in the league no way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: This shouldn't surprise anyone. He was an excellent corner here, and now he's being used by a coaching staff that somehow always finds a way to get more out of players than any other staff. You are gonna upset hateful fans. Quick post something positive about McD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills92 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I get your point.. but I don't believe All Pro CB's give up on plays.. Like I said.. I harbor a grudge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R317Rdhw2Gg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Shocking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: “Good cbs often don’t make big plays but they aren’t target” HUH?!?!?!? English?!? I stand by my claim.....Very good CB, not one of the Top 5 best. At least not when he was in Buffalo. Typing fast in my office. I believe making all pro would make him a top 5 corner, correct? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Bills92 said: I get your point.. but I don't believe All Pro CB's give up on plays.. Like I said.. I harbor a grudge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R317Rdhw2Gg I guess you don't remember seeing Deion Sanders getting out-run by Brent Jones then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: This shouldn't surprise anyone. He was an excellent corner here, and now he's being used by a coaching staff that somehow always finds a way to get more out of players than any other staff. So Belichick might know more than disgruntled Bills fans? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: “Good cbs often don’t make big plays but they aren’t target” HUH?!?!?!? English?!? I stand by my claim.....Very good CB, not one of the Top 5 best. At least not when he was in Buffalo. Got a good one for you. Watch Chris Hogan BURN Gilmore! He is clearly best for a huge play and rather than take responsibility, he looks around at his teammates as to say “not my fault, bro.” He did this a lot towards the beginning of last season too with The Patriots. There were big moments in games, where Gilmore did not delivers. That’s why I stand by my claim - good but not one of the best. go to 1:17. You’ll see it: https://youtu.be/j698yPWaWQY Edited January 4, 2019 by BillyWhiteShows 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 38 minutes ago, GG said: He definitely played at a high level in Buffalo, yet somehow the refs have now stopped calling ticky tack PI on him. Amazing how that affects DB rankings. This cannot be overstated. He gets away with a lot more now that he has the “ eagle wing” on his helmet. Makes a world of difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Typing fast in my office. I believe making all pro would make him a top 5 corner, correct? ? Not really....it’s all arbitrary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Got a good one for you. Watch Chris Hogan BURN Gilmore! He is clearly best for a huge play and rather than take responsibility, he looks around at his teammates as to say “not my fault, bro.” He did this a lot towards the beginning of last season too with The Patriots. There were big moments in games, where Gilmore did not delivers. That’s why I stand by my claim - good but not one of the best. go to 1:17. You’ll see it: https://youtu.be/j698yPWaWQY So in order to be one of the best, a guy can't ever get beaten? Got it. Who is one of the best then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, BillyWhiteShows said: Not really....it’s all arbitrary All pro teams are what teams use to value players. You’re just teaching now because you don’t like the guy. I get trying to put down the pro bowl but most rational people agree all pro teams are very accurate. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 30 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: And virtually everyone here thinks Tre is great, which is why the Gilmore criticism was insane. White is just as good if not better and a more likeable personality. It’s not hard to understand. Fans want to like their team. Gilmore is good, but overrated now that he’s a Pat. I still didn’t want the Bills to pay him and I’m glad they didn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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