BillyWhiteShows Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I often find myself thinking that a certain role player would be perfect on the Bills. It’s not usually an All-Pro or even a standout player. But a guy who flies under the radar as a role player that would be ideal for the Bills. My choice is Kenyon Drake in Miami. I feel he is criminally underutilized in Miami, as bruiser backs like old Frank Gore or Brandon Bolin get more carries than Drake. I doubt Miami would trade w/n the division but man I would love to see Drake in Buffalo. I would make Drake the feature back in the Bills offense. He could carry the load at RB and could help Allen in the short passing game to beat the blitz. who are some other options? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 anyone that doesnt suck. The bar is set really low so that should put a lot of players on the radar lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 So this is about players who are not only under the radar, but under contract for reasonable salaries and not on the trade market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Cole Beasley would be a nice pickup. Nothing flashy, nothing spectacular, not a game breaker but a solid veteran receiver and a fantastic fit for our offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Chris Conley. I don’t understand why I think he can be huge, but I would love to get him 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Pat Mahomes - I haven't read anyone talk about him coming here - completely under the radar. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Here's a list on Offense... Chris Conley- agree with Virgil on this one Jamison Crowder - WR - Redskins - 5'9 but stout. Does not drop very many. Good speed. Jesse James - TE - Steelers - Love this guys toughness- 6' 7" target; reliable hands. Mike Person - G- SF - 30 years old but has only really played the last 4 years. He can fill a hole at RG for the next 5 years Ja'Waun James - OT - Dolphins- not very durable but really good feet and mirror ability Ty Nsekhe - OT - A true frickin road grader at 330 lbs The Bills will sign some higher profile FA but these guys are all process guys and contributors. Upgrades over the depth we have and can compete for significant playing time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Don't even know if Tyler Eifert would be considered "Under the Radar" but I'm hoping he's someone we bring in in the off-season. Super talented and just has been hit with freak injury after freak injury. The Panthers brought in Greg Olsen who was considered oft injured. Hoping Beane takes a flier with Eifert. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocemur Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 We need to make a solid offer to Quincy Enunwa, that way even if we don't get him we can drive up the price for the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 22 minutes ago, DasNootz said: Pat Mahomes - I haven't read anyone talk about him coming here - completely under the radar. Who? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 24 minutes ago, DasNootz said: Pat Mahomes - I haven't read anyone talk about him coming here - completely under the radar. Not the point of this thread... 19 minutes ago, JoeF said: Here's a list on Offense... Chris Conley- agree with Virgil on this one Jamison Crowder - WR - Redskins - 5'9 but stout. Does not drop very many. Good speed. Jesse James - TE - Steelers - Love this guys toughness- 6' 7" target; reliable hands. Mike Person - G- SF - 30 years old but has only really played the last 4 years. He can fill a hole at RG for the next 5 years Ja'Waun James - OT - Dolphins- not very durable but really good feet and mirror ability Ty Nsekhe - OT - A true frickin road grader at 330 lbs The Bills will sign some higher profile FA but these guys are all process guys and contributors. Upgrades over the depth we have and can compete for significant playing time. Good choices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Who? Patrick Lavon Mahomes is a former American professional baseball pitcher. He played in Major League Baseball from 1992 to 2003 for the Minnesota Twins, Boston Red Sox, New York Mets, Texas Rangers, Chicago Cubs, and Pittsburgh Pirates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 1 minute ago, DasNootz said: Patrick Lavon Mahomes is a former American professional baseball pitcher. He played in Major League Baseball from 1992 to 2003 for the Minnesota Twins, Boston Red Sox, New York Mets, Texas Rangers, Chicago Cubs, and Pittsburgh Pirates. We need to fire someone if they dont get him then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 1 minute ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Not the point of this thread... but including a player that will continue to be under team friendly contract for a division rival in the original post is the point of this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I really like the choices in this thread.......just get guys that fit the offensive scheme since Deboll is probably not going anywhere....... One not so under the radar choice but.....that DE from the Texans is a free agent.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I really like the choices in this thread.......just get guys that fit the offensive scheme since Deboll is probably not going anywhere....... One not so under the radar choice but.....that DE from the Texans is a free agent.... 2 The Bills need an edge setter and disruptive rusher. That will make this defense even better. I am just not sure Clowney fits the culture they want. It may come through the draft. On D, I would look at depth at DT (signing Philips would help); DE; MLB; Corner. I think if they are serious about Edmunds becoming a MLB they need to get him a mentor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, DasNootz said: but including a player that will continue to be under team friendly contract for a division rival in the original post is the point of this thread? ...You mean including a player that’s actually underutilized!?!? I never said anything about contracts or about division rivals, just a player that’s under the radar and Drake fits the bill. I also feel that James White would be a good choice. Your joke about Mahomes wasn’t really smart, funny, or witty, which is why I appreciate those here who provided good choices. 17 minutes ago, DasNootz said: Patrick Lavon Mahomes is a former American professional baseball pitcher. He played in Major League Baseball from 1992 to 2003 for the Minnesota Twins, Boston Red Sox, New York Mets, Texas Rangers, Chicago Cubs, and Pittsburgh Pirates. The hits keep on coming. I think some here missed their calling as comedy writers Edited December 27, 2018 by BillyWhiteShows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Just now, BillyWhiteShows said: ...You mean including a player that’s actually underutilized!?!? I never said anything about contracts or about division rivals, just a player that’s under the radar and Drake fits the bill. I also feel that James White would be a good choice. Your joke about Mahomes wasn’t really smart, funny, witty, which is why I appreciate those here who provided good choices. I know there are risks with both guys but I'd like to see us pursue Eifert and Tyrell Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 James White What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Dede Westbrooke down in Jax. Spent most of last year injured so this was his rookie and a half season. Shows great speed and ability to get open. Started 8 games this year, 63 rec. 707 yds. 5 tds plus a punt return TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Jesse James from the Steelers, reminds of a guy who was awesome for us back in the day in reliable Pete Metzelars!! Guy was so good and underrated 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanMike Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Jesse James - TE - Steelers. I liked watching him play at Penn State. This guy can catch and block. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 1 minute ago, BillsFanMike said: Jesse James - TE - Steelers. I liked watching him play at Penn State. This guy can catch and block. And.....he has a cool name 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Patrick_Duffy said: And.....he has a cool name All about getting good TE’s to help Josh Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tuco said: Dede Westbrooke down in Jax. Spent most of last year injured so this was his rookie and a half season. Shows great speed and ability to get open. Started 8 games this year, 63 rec. 707 yds. 5 tds plus a punt return TD. I like Westbrook too. When we played Jax he was doing everything. Doubt he's available. Edited December 27, 2018 by LABILLBACKER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 hours ago, JoeF said: Here's a list on Offense... Chris Conley- agree with Virgil on this one Jamison Crowder - WR - Redskins - 5'9 but stout. Does not drop very many. Good speed. Jesse James - TE - Steelers - Love this guys toughness- 6' 7" target; reliable hands. Mike Person - G- SF - 30 years old but has only really played the last 4 years. He can fill a hole at RG for the next 5 years Ja'Waun James - OT - Dolphins- not very durable but really good feet and mirror ability Ty Nsekhe - OT - A true frickin road grader at 330 lbs The Bills will sign some higher profile FA but these guys are all process guys and contributors. Upgrades over the depth we have and can compete for significant playing time. ....are there any "bank breakers" in your list?....somebody posted a McBeane quote where he said, "we assign a value to a player and that's it"......sounds like he's shopping for value and production versus "big splash"............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan79 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Media types have been saying Golden Tate was going to command a lot of money, but I don't see it. If he takes a fair market deal, I think he'd be a great slot target for Adams. He's physicality and YAC could open other areas of the offense up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 T.y. Hilton, Tevin Coleman, Jesse James, Josh Norman, Gronk. my "under the radar" wish list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) anyone not currently employed on Offense for the Bills... Edited December 27, 2018 by gordong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Don't even know if Tyler Eifert would be considered "Under the Radar" but I'm hoping he's someone we bring in in the off-season. Super talented and just has been hit with freak injury after freak injury. The Panthers brought in Greg Olsen who was considered oft injured. Hoping Beane takes a flier with Eifert. Olsen played 62 out of a possible 64 games when he went to the Panthers at the age of 26. Eifert will be 29. Has never played more than 15 games and has played a grand total of 43 out of a possible 96 games in his career. So no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....are there any "bank breakers" in your list?....somebody posted a McBeane quote where he said, "we assign a value to a player and that's it"......sounds like he's shopping for value and production versus "big splash"............. I don't believe there are any bank breakers...these are all guys I would consider under the radar. My criteria was: 1) Better than what Bills have now in the top 2 at their respective positions (this means Outside Receiver and Slot Receiver as separate positions for WR) 2) Cap friendly- 2 to 4 year deals with less than $2 million per year in upfront, guaranteed bonus money and low first and second year salaries 3) May not draw much attention in the open market (I think Jesse James may be the exception). I honestly see this list and one I am looking at on D and also Punter as outside of 4 impact players I expect the Bills to add with 2 large FA signings and the first two rounds of the draft. The Bills won't sign all these player but maybe 3 from each list. I think the Bills will be integrating about 20-22 new players on the 53 next year. A real infusion of new blood and depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, JoeF said: I don't believe there are any bank breakers...these are all guys I would consider under the radar. My criteria was: 1) Better than what Bills have now in the top 2 at their respective positions (this means Outside Receiver and Slot Receiver as separate positions for WR) 2) Cap friendly- 2 to 4 year deals with less than $2 million per year in upfront, guaranteed bonus money and low first and second year salaries 3) May not draw much attention in the open market (I think Jesse James may be the exception). I honestly see this list and one I am looking at on D and also Punter as outside of 4 impact players I expect the Bills to add with 2 large FA signings and the first two rounds of the draft. The Bills won't sign all these player but maybe 3 from each list. I think the Bills will be integrating about 20-22 new players on the 53 next year. A real infusion of new blood and depth. ...thanks...nicely done......like your reasonableness versus "shoot for the moon" theory which seems to be prevalent around here...just do not see McBeane as a "big splash...big spend guy" on one player...but then again, "right" is NOT my strong suit................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 39 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: All about getting good TE’s to help Josh Allen Yes agreed.And WR and OL. He basically needs pretty much everything on the offensive side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jay_Fixit said: Olsen played 62 out of a possible 64 games when he went to the Panthers at the age of 26. Eifert will be 29. Has never played more than 15 games and has played a grand total of 43 out of a possible 96 games in his career. So no. I'm also a no but it's a shame. I remember him scorching the Bills a few years back in one the few games he started and finished. Guy has/had a ton of talent. Edited December 28, 2018 by LSHMEAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said: I'm also a now but it's a shame. I remember him scorching the Bills a few years back in one the few games he started and finished. Guy has/had a ton of talent. Maybe... but I love the idea of getting a big target at TE who can run. I feel that it could really help Allen on the intermediate routes when team blitz. Same with a good pass catching RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Mitch Morse, C, KC. Has also started at OG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Maxx Williams TE would be big upgrade and doubles as a fullback. 2 birds, one roster spot. Mark Glowinski - Guard upgrade no one is talking about. Playing really well for the Colts this year Josh Wells - RT who can also play left. Has played a lot and played well for the Jaguars the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 4 hours ago, DasNootz said: Pat Mahomes - I haven't read anyone talk about him coming here - completely under the radar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 The list of free agent skill position players is about as disappointing as I can ever remember. Glad we have all that money....I hope we don’t give it to guys that stink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) Malcolm Brown, RB, currently with the Rams. Adam Humphries, WR, currently with the Bucs. Maxx Williams, TE, currently with the Ravens. Edited December 28, 2018 by DCOrange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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