MAJBobby Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/12/04/nfl-considering-changes-to-punt-plays/ I got an idea. You want to eliminate penalties then change the rule book not the game. Ooo and also start firing referees for cause when they continue to SUCK game in and game out. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroke 17 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Get rid of the kick off. It really irritates me when fans are fired up before the game and then it starts with a kick off going thru the end zone. Everybody sits while they spot the ball, offense runs on field and fans take a drink. Like the punt if the kick is returned there is a penalty, especially if it is the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Instead of getting rid of the kickoff, how about bring it back? Move the kick off spot back to the 15 or make a touchback be the 35. It was an exciting play, bring kick returns back. Stop overreacting about the head injury lawsuit. Bring back football 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, Stroke 17 said: Get rid of the kick off. It really irritates me when fans are fired up before the game and then it starts with a kick off going thru the end zone. Everybody sits while they spot the ball, offense runs on field and fans take a drink. Like the punt if the kick is returned there is a penalty, especially if it is the Bills. You need the kick off. I wish they didn’t ***** with it in the first place but plz don’t get rid of it. It still has some sentimental value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stroke 17 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I'm all for bringing it back but because of safety concerns not going to happen. It just really p**ses me off. If not thru the endzone its a flag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Make football great again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Think they need to do something different on kickoffs, to still give teams a shot at recovering an on-sides kick. Not that the odds were ever very good, but became terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Good luck with modifying football to eliminate concussions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Instead of getting rid of the kickoff, how about bring it back? Move the kick off spot back to the 15 or make a touchback be the 35. It was an exciting play, bring kick returns back. Stop overreacting about the head injury lawsuit. Bring back football Yes!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 sounds like they're trying to eliminate all the plays the refs screw up on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Stroke 17 said: Get rid of the kick off. It really irritates me when fans are fired up before the game and then it starts with a kick off going thru the end zone. Everybody sits while they spot the ball, offense runs on field and fans take a drink. Like the punt if the kick is returned there is a penalty, especially if it is the Bills. The kick off is worthless now. I also cant stand when the ball touches the endzone the refs blow the whistle, that used to be a live ball requiring the returner to run it out or down it- essentially not allowing the coverage team to make a big play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Jolla Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Bring back Football!! Fire Goober!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 The illegal block in the back seems to be the biggest killer, especially for the bills. Every dang punt it’s called it seems. I don’t support being able to crush someone from behind when they aren’t looking but if you even touch them it’s a penalty. Holding and illegal block have to make up the majority of calls on punts, gotta be a way to modify it some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 maybe the punter can wear a dress so opponents know not to touch him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 41 minutes ago, stuvian said: sounds like they're trying to eliminate all the plays the refs screw up on They screw up about every play so not too sure there would be much of a game left...just a coin toss - oh no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Eliminate the touchback if the ball lands in the field of play first and bounces into the endzone. If the ball hits at say the one, then bounces into and through the endzone, give the kicking team 2 points like a touchback. If the ball hits in the endzone and goes through, it's a touchback. It makes kicks more difficult cause they will have to try and get the ball to land before the endzone instead of just kicking it through, and it force the other team to return the kick instead of just letting it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) In order to promote more offense and scoring, just dump the KO and after a score, the opposing team gets the football on their own 40. Why not just do this instead of the charade of a KO with the end result being a touch back most of the time? Edited December 5, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Can’t just eliminate bad refs who look for any excuse to throw a flag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: In order to promote more offense and scoring, just dump the KO and after a score, the opposing team gets the football on their own 40. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rc2catch said: The illegal block in the back seems to be the biggest killer, especially for the bills. Every dang punt it’s called it seems. I don’t support being able to crush someone from behind when they aren’t looking but if you even touch them it’s a penalty. Holding and illegal block have to make up the majority of calls on punts, gotta be a way to modify it some most of those penalties are weak hits and away from the play. Refs need to be able to use discretion on penalties on punts. Edited December 5, 2018 by klos63 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 For once it's not the Bills looking for a change in punters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 If the refs are calling too many penalties, change the rule book. We don't need TOO many penalties especially nitpicky ones. Don't change the play. However, if the issue is players unable to follow the rules, then increase the penalty and that will make teams pay attention. "Illegal block in the back; the kicking team will retain possession, automatic first down". "Offside, kicking team; by rule, 15 yards will be added to the end of the return." That will cut down on the penalties and we'll see more players getting cut for them, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 46 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: In order to promote more offense and scoring, just dump the KO and after a score, the opposing team gets the football on their own 40. Why not just do this instead of the charade of a KO with the end result being a touch back most of the time? CFL team scored on has the option of 1 taking it at their own 35 2 scoring teams kicks off 3 team scored on can kick off, rare but an option and the returner has the right and duty to return, no fair catches, but must be given room to make the catch and run simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 48 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: No. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Part of the problem is that the only guys who make it onto an NFL team were the stars of their college team (well, nearly always) and those stars didn't learn how to play STs in college. They were too valuable to risk injury. So they show up at an NFL camp and they're suddenly at the bottom of the roster, assuming they make the team, and now they're out there trying to figure out how to block legally or tackle people. Players like Lorax are the exception. It used to be common for a team to keep a player or two on the roster because they were great at covering kicks, even if they weren't all that great at their designated position (remember Mark Pike, who used to make more tackles than Steve Tasker when they were both playing). The Bills had a WR who was great on STs but not at receiving until a couple of years ago. I don't see that happening much anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 4 hours ago, MAJBobby said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/12/04/nfl-considering-changes-to-punt-plays/ I got an idea. You want to eliminate penalties then change the rule book not the game. Ooo and also start firing referees for cause when they continue to SUCK game in and game out. Doesn't the NFL find it odd that Hercules Jr's crew has double the amount of penalties/game than any other crew. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Good lets eliminate punting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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