Charles Clay- the most useless player ever

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Get out of Buffalo NOW, Clay! Don’t look back and take Benjamin with you!

Leave them both on the tarmac like Lane Kiffen...

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Nah.  Most useless player?  Aaron Maybin.  Bunch of other guys drafted in that era

[dave mcbride]

Just now, RocCityRoller said:

 

Clay himself admitted he should have caught the ball. Keep fighting the good fight though.

 

And let me know what the channel was of the game you watched.

 

It clearly wasn't what everyone else, including the players, were watching.

What is he supposed to say? Sheesh. Do you really expect him to throw the qb under the bus? Can you at least admit that it was a highly inaccurate pass and that the qb didn't deliver in a signature moment (despite a great scramble and good decision)?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

10 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Ah, my favorite blame-the-receiver line: “it hit him in the hands.” It was a bad throw (after a great scramble and great decision) that would have been a bona fide circus catch if caught. And are fans here completely blind to the fact that players on both sides were slipping and sliding all day on that surface??

 

Disagree.  It wasn’t a “gimme” catch, but it was a degree of difficulty big-boy NFL WR and TE routinely lock down, not a circus OMG how did he catch that? 

[dave mcbride]

7 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

Except he has no heart and isn’t that talented

 

and that’s what we’ve been saying his whole time here

Can you quantify “no heart” or at the least provide an anecdotal example?

[GG]

9 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

See previois comments by me about the field surface today — players were falling down all game. Regardless. It was short by 6-7 yards and required a circus catch because it demanded a reverse in direction.

 

I remember you blaming watkins for taylor’s int v NE despite that he leaped as high as he could and his fingertips grazed the ball.

 

How did it require a change in direction when he was stopped and waiting in the end zone?

 

As for blaming the INTs, you're confusing that play with my MISTAKEN defense of the INT off Clay's hands in the first Jets game last year.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

What is he supposed to say? Sheesh. Do you really expect him to throw the qb under the bus? Can you at least admit that it was a highly inaccurate pass and that the qb didn't deliver in a signature moment (despite a great scramble and good decision)?

 

You know, I think if you watch some of the great QB in the league - Brees, Rodgers, Goff looking pretty good right now, Mahomes, maybe - you will see that they have WR who routinely make plays on “highly inaccurate” throws like that.  It wasn’t a pinpoint laser throw, no, maybe even not a good throw, but it was a catchable ball.

[dave mcbride]

Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Disagree.  It wasn’t a “gimme” catch, but it was a degree of difficulty big-boy NFL WR and TE routinely lock down, not a circus OMG how did he catch that? 

I just watched three good players in high pressure situations fail to make catches that were less “circus” than clay’s not catch the ball. Sometimes, it’s the qb’s fault.

[Kelly the Dog]

1 minute ago, dave mcbride said:

What is he supposed to say? Sheesh. Do you really expect him to throw the qb under the bus? Can you at least admit that it was a highly inaccurate pass and that the qb didn't deliver in a signature moment (despite a great scramble and good decision)?

He just avoided the rush three separate times and threw it across his body rolling left 55 yards! Jesus.

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

See previois comments by me about the field surface today — players were falling down all game. Regardless. It was short by 6-7 yards and required a circus catch because it demanded a reverse in direction.

 

I remember you blaming watkins for taylor’s int v NE despite that he leaped as high as he could and his fingertips grazed the ball.

 

Dave are you really going to die on this hill.  Please watch the play 4 or 5 times.

JA was scrambling all the way back to mid field.  Clay is in the corner of the end zone.

A JV football player whose mind is in the game knowing that they only need a 1st down would of moved "toward" his QB.

Yes, JAs pass fluttered some.  Clay had to perform a "circus" catch because he did not do what he should of done.

 

There really is no other way to say this.  If it was Brett Farve throwing the ball I'm sure every commentator would be blaming Clay

for not coming back to him.

[dave mcbride]

1 minute ago, GG said:

 

How did it require a change in direction when he was stopped and waiting in the end zone?

 

As for blaming the INTs, you're confusing that play with my MISTAKEN defense of the INT off Clay's hands in the first Jets game last year.

Whoops - in my frenzy i thought i was responding to dog re the NE game. My bad. I agree about that jets game. 

 

Regardless, coming back for the ball on a crap throw isn’t as easy as you seem to think it is.

[Coach Tuesday]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

Whoops - in my frenzy i thought i was responding to dog re the NE game. My bad. I agree about that jets game. 

 

Regardless, coming back for the ball on a crap throw isn’t as easy as you seem to think it is.

 

How about:  great play by Allen, hard throw to make, wasn’t perfect, could’ve been better, hard catch for Clay to make, Clay needs to make a play for once and knows he should’ve caught it.  It’s on both of them.

[row_33]

 Clay should be running the steps at New Era every morning until he vomits and passes out

 

 

[dave mcbride]

4 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

He just avoided the rush three separate times and threw it across his body rolling left 55 yards! Jesus.

Huh? Twist my words! I loved his game for the most part today except for a few plays and have complimented multiple times on the play up to the wounded-duck, helicopter-rotation throw. But yeah, blame the receiver. 

1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

How about:  great play by Allen, hard throw to make, wasn’t perfect, could’ve been better, hard catch for Clay to make, Clay needs to make a play for once and knows he should’ve caught it.  It’s on both of them.

It was a circus catch situation. I am standing by that.

Edited December 3, 2018 by dave mcbride

[GG]

2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Whoops - in my frenzy i thought i was responding to dog re the NE game. My bad. I agree about that jets game. 

 

Regardless, coming back for the ball on a crap throw isn’t as easy as you seem to think it is.

 

It's not easy, and it's much harder when you trip over your feet

[row_33]

Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

 

How about:  great play by Allen, hard throw to make, wasn’t perfect, could’ve been better, hard catch for Clay to make, Clay needs to make a play for once and knows he should’ve caught it.  It’s on both of them.

 

What competency levels are you asking out of a top paid skill player in the NFL?

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

Huh? Twist my words! I loved his game for the most part today except for a few plays and have complimented multiple times on the play up to the wounded-duck throw. But yeah, blame the receiver.

Groan,......

[Coach Tuesday]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

Huh? Twist my words! I loved his game for the most part today except for a few plays and have complimented multiple times on the play up to the wounded-duck throw. But yeah, blame the receiver.

It was a circus catch situation. I am standing by that.

 

Would’ve been a great catch no doubt.  Not routine.  Other teams do it though.

[NewEra]

18 minutes ago, vincec said:

Clay could have made a great catch there but Allen could also have set his feet and thrown it to him instead of under throwing it by 10 yards. He has plenty of arm to make a good throw there. And the OTs could have blocked somebody too so that Allen wasn't scrambling for his life. It's never just one player.

You’re right it’s never one player.  It’s also NEVER been one player (named Charles clay) that we all said, “wooooooooo Charles clay is the man.  He’s the man”.  He’s never been the man while getting paid like he’s the man.  He’s useless.  

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

You know, I think if you watch some of the great QB in the league - Brees, Rodgers, Goff looking pretty good right now, Mahomes, maybe - you will see that they have WR who routinely make plays on “highly inaccurate” throws like that.  It wasn’t a pinpoint laser throw, no, maybe even not a good throw, but it was a catchable ball.

 

And he had to perform some crazy circus act stuff just to be able to get the pass off. Allen overachieved on the play, Clay underachieved. While that ball was in the air, he couldn’t move forward more than about 6 yards to catch it?  Inexcusable. 

[Kelly the Dog]

1 minute ago, dave mcbride said:

Huh? Twist my words! I loved his game for the most part today except for a few plays and have complimented multiple times on the play up to the wounded-duck throw. But yeah, blame the receiver.

It's wrong IMO to say a pass that was 55 yards in the air, running the opposite way, all the way across the field, AFTER running 30-40 yards to avoid the rush that hits the receiver in two hands and would have been a pretty easy catch if that receiver didnt trip himself, is 'highly inaccurate." 

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

He used to just "flash" nonsense but now he's come of age.

Sorry I typed the wrong name while hammered.  

 

So please explain.....what has Charles Clay done to make him useful while getting paid 9 mill a year?  Your reply:  block.  Your next reply:  our QBs suck and can’t get him the ball.  

 

My reply.  You’re wrong. He’s useless.

[Augie]

Just now, NewEra said:

You’re right it’s never one player.  It’s also NEVER been one player (named Charles clay) that we all said, “wooooooooo Charles clay is the man.  He’s the man”.  He’s never been the man while getting paid like he’s the man.  He’s useless.  

 

Now, now, remember a couple years ago (or so) when he had a good game against Miami? There WAS that one good game. Yippee! He’s gone next year, and we’ll get a guy who can practice, play in games and hopefully actually contribute. 

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Sorry I typed the wrong name while hammered.  

 

So please explain.....what has Charles Clay done to make him useful while getting paid 9 mill a year?  Your reply:  block.  Your next reply:  our QBs suck and can’t get him the ball.  

 

My reply.  You’re wrong. He’s useless.

 

Relax, only a few more weeks of practice for him to miss, and likely half the games left to play in and disappoint us. The end is near. Take peace in that. 

[Nanker]

O’Leary had a better game today than Clay. 

[NewEra]

21 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Huh? Twist my words! I loved his game for the most part today except for a few plays and have complimented multiple times on the play up to the wounded-duck, helicopter-rotation throw. But yeah, blame the receiver. 

It was a circus catch situation. I am standing by that.

The thread is stating that Charles Clay is useless.  He has been useless since he became a bills, minus 1 game vs the fins his first year.  He’s dropped several easy catches over his tenure and he could’ve, for one day, for one play, made up for being useless but giving his 100% and making a catchbto keep our season alive.  But no.  He blew it and remains exactly who he’s been for his tenure with the Bills.  Useless. Forgettable.  Overpaid.  

 

Edit: Nice guy im sure.  

17 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Now, now, remember a couple years ago (or so) when he had a good game against Miami? There WAS that one good game. Yippee! He’s gone next year, and we’ll get a guy who can practice, play in games and hopefully actually contribute. 

 

Relax, only a few more weeks of practice for him to miss, and likely half the games left to play in and disappoint us. The end is near. Take peace in that. 

Just hoping we can acquire a tight end that can help us win games in ways other than “being our best blocker”.  Even better than the QB and WR he has as competition 

 

edit: and in the first post of the thread, I gave him credit for that exact game. ?

Edited December 3, 2018 by NewEra

[PlayoffsPlease]

My Pet Peeve with this thread is with the title. In a season that McClappity saw fit to use 2/3s' of the off-season starting QB reps for Peterman and McCarron, and a team that still has Kelvin Benjamin on the roster, Clay is at best the third most useless player ever. 

[row_33]

Then again he simply ***** it up

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

 

It was a circus catch situation. I am standing by that.

Hahahaha! Come on man!

[Beast]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

See previois comments by me about the field surface today — players were falling down all game. Regardless. It was short by 6-7 yards and required a circus catch because it demanded a reverse in direction.

 

I remember you blaming watkins for taylor’s int v NE despite that he leaped as high as he could and his fingertips grazed the ball.

 

The only “circus” effort that was needed on that play was performed by #17 evading the rush, spotting Play-Doh, and getting the ball to him. 

 

Play-Doh, after the effort #17 made on that play, only had to complete the easy part.

[familykwi]

4 hours ago, Pete said:

That play was on Josh.  Put your pitchforks down.  He also missed a wide open Foster.  Growing pains. We finally have our QB!

This take is ridiculous.  Please, tomorrow, go to a park, run left & try to throw it back to the right.  See how far it goes and how close to a target you come.

 

Certainly Clay was not the primary on that play and Josh getting it to him at the goal line was something legends cannot do.  Why Clay was that far in the endzone away from every other player is inexplicable.  Was he heading to the tunnel already?  COME BACK TO YOUR SCRAMBLING QB DOOFUS!

 

NOT Allen's fault.

Edited December 3, 2018 by familykwi
grammar error

[stuvian]

Robert Royal wants his bad hands  back

[ComradeKayAdams]

I take back everything supportive that I ever said about Charles Clay. Just eat the $4.5 million cap hit in 2019 and move on.

[row_33]

Do players practice Hail Mary situations?

 

 

[Dan]

There a couple of guys that should be cut immediately.   They're not helping upthe team win.  They're not part of the future.  They appear, in all apparent ways, to not even care enough to try.    #85 is one of them.    There is no rational person that can watch him on the field and think he as earned a roster spot.

[row_33]

Just now, Dan said:

There a couple of guys that should be cut immediately.   They're not helping upthe team win.  They're not part of the future.  They appear, in all apparent ways, to not even care enough to try.    #85 is one of them.    There is no rational person that can watch him on the field and think he as earned a roster spot.

 

In time, in time...

 

[hemma]

One of the reasons I watch the NFL is to see amazing athletes do things I know I could never have done on the very best day of my life.

 

When I saw Clay clumsily lurch forward and then drop that ball, my immediate thought was, "Jeesh …. I could do that."

 

I think that's when players lose support.  When they at least appear to be, just like us.

[row_33]

3 minutes ago, hemma said:

One of the reasons I watch the NFL is to see amazing athletes do things I know I could never have done on the very best day of my life.

 

When I saw Clay clumsily lurch forward and then drop that ball, my immediate thought was, "Jeesh …. I could do that."

 

I think that's when players lose support.  When they at least appear to be, just like us.

 

Mental or physical error or both?

 

 

[transient]

That's odd.  After reading the thread title someone who looks suspiciously like Nate Peterman just asked me to hold his beer...

 

4 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

Witch makes Clay had all day to catch the ball and noone around him. Did a dive witch was not needed. Or tried to play it like hail Mary lol

 

Are you suggesting that if Clay weighs the same as a duck then he must be made of wood and therefore we should burn him at the stake?

[row_33]

Just now, transient said:

That's odd.  After reading the thread title someone who looks suspiciously like Nate Peterman just asked me to hold his beer...

 

 

Are you suggesting that if Clay weighs the same as a duck then he must be made of wood and therefore we should burn him at the stake?

 

They will demand a sacrifice, a shrubbery!!!

 

[hemma]

3 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

Mental or physical error or both?

 

 

I think the game has beaten him down physically so that he couldn't perform and after today, he may start thinking like Vontae.

He might be done.