Chiefs release Kareem Hunt after video from February incident surfaces

[3rdand12]

45 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Lol

 

 

this was awesome. thanks for the  post. LOL

41 minutes ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said:

It’s being called a “brutal” attack. It’s far from brutal.

 

i don’t condone it, but this isn’t Ray Rice knockout drag out! He shoves her, she punches him. He shoved a man knocking other over.

 

It looks as if one of the women tried to steal something cause one of his friends snatches something back. And Hunt kicks her in the butt.

 

This is not Ray Rice. It a bunch of young drunk adults that had too much to drink arguing and getting out of control. All of them are idiots... but I don’t think this is a legit ray rice type “brutal” attack.  It’s almost laughable 

young drunk adults.

 

okay

 free pass.
they all do it sometimes

[YoloinOhio]

15 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

So going through this thread was there a second incident for Tyreek Hill since the one that got him dropped by OSU?

I don’t believe so 

[The Senator]

7 minutes ago, Bills2ref said:

Personal attacks are far from necessary, it’s a deflection tactic when losing an argument. Kareem Hunt did not just drive her head into a wall, watch the video again and report back. 

 

Pure semantics.  I’ve watched the video several times.  Hunt came out a room he should stayed in, to continue a verbal altercation, then shoved her first.

 

Then, when she ran at him, he went berserk, pushing two men into her.  So, technically, you’re right - he didn’t slam her head into the wall - he merely shoved two oversized men into her, causing her head to slam the wall.

 

Then, while she was disoriented and on her knees, the coward punk kicked in the ribs, flipping her over.

 

No big deal, right?

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[Nelius]

7 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

 Didn’t your parents teach you to NEVER be the first one to throw or lay hands on the other person first? I mean is he that afraid of a much smaller woman hitting him? Come on man!

 

Some deranged ***** children on this board. Anybody trying to justify or dismiss this in any way is a complete and utter scumbag.

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Hunt deserves to be cut, but it’s interesting that the police, the only ones supposed to have access to the video, decided not to charge Hunt.  Doesn’t Hunt and the NFL have grounds to sue the crap out of the hotel for leaking the video or do you basically allow the hotel to videotape your every move when you choose to stay there?  

 

This videos are in the common areas in any major hotel. There is nothing private about that. My wife ran into an issue in a major hotel in a major city. It was a scare and didn’t end as badly as it might have, but they can make that available to be put that all over the news if it helps to determine bad behavior in what is actually a public space. It’s not a sneak bedroom cam. If you think you’re not on camera in front of the hotel, you're fooling yourself there too. Security is a HUGE priority. You’re on camera inside the public areas too without any right to privacy. 

[Nelius]

6 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Guess what the cops did about this so called brutal attack after looking at the video and talking to all parties involved?  Nothing. 

 

So kicking a woman while she's disoriented and on the ground isn't brutal? WTF man? Your sarcasm is obvious. Some of you are really showing your true colors here.

Edited December 1, 2018 by Nelius

[stuvian]

well at least Tyreek Hill is clean. Oh Wait

[Misterbluesky]

7 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Nothing will happen here. 

That kick to the woman's female area when she was on here knees and already in pain ended his career.

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, The Senator said:

 

Pure semantics.  I’ve watched the video several times.  Hunt came out a room he should stayed in, to continue a verbal altercation, then shoved her first.

 

Then, when she ran at him, he went berserk, pushing two men into her.  So, technically, you’re right - he didn’t slam her head into the wall - he merely shoved two oversized men into her, causing her head to slam the wall.

 

Then, while she was disoriented and on her knees, the coward punk kicked in the ribs, flipping her over.

 

No big deal, right?

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I have a fun idea! Who wants to start a poll to see if folks thinks drugs or alcohol might have been involved?   ?

[greenyellowred]

1 minute ago, Augie said:

 

This videos are in the common areas in any major hotel. There is nothing private about that. My wife ran into an issue in a major hotel in a major city. It was a scare and didn’t end as badly as it might have, but they can make that available to be put that all over the news if it helps to determine bad behavior in what is actually a public space. It’s not a sneak bedroom cam. If you think you’re not on camera in front of the hotel, you're fooling yourself there too. Security is a HUGE priority. You’re on camera inside the public areas too without any right to privacy. 

 

The videos were on private property.

3 minutes ago, Nelius said:

 

Some deranged ***** children on this board. Anybody trying to justify or dismiss this in any way is a complete and utter scumbag.

 

Agreed. These losers here need to be banned by the moderator.

[Warcodered]

Just now, Commonsense said:

Hunt was in a drunken fight back in June. I don’t think Hill had two incidcents. 

 

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

I don’t believe so 

Right if there hasn't been a second incident I don't really think his being on the team is the same as the Chiefs being okay with this behavior. Hill was punished for what he did going through anger management and other programs to rehabilitate him. When the team drafted him it seems like they made it clear how seriously they took the record that he had. All in all what he did was unimaginably terrible but he's been given a second chance and hasn't wasted it yet. Hunt had his incident happen while a member of the team and from what has been reported lied to the team about it. Maybe he get's another chance somewhere else but if so I hope he faces some serious conditions.

[Nelius]

1 minute ago, greenyellowred said:

 

Agreed. These losers here need to be banned by the moderator.

 

As a happily married man, the incel rage on here is palpable sometimes. Sad really. Bunch of lost, angry little boys.

[Misterbluesky]

15 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

Apparently.  And sadly, there are no winners in this brouhaha. I hope multiple people learned from this debacle and got help as needed.

Do you think alcohol and egos were involved?

[The Senator]

2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I have a fun idea! Who wants to start a poll to see if folks thinks drugs or alcohol might have been involved?   ?

 

That IS a fun idea...OF COURSE drugs and alcohol were involved!

 

It happened in February, giving Hunt plenty of time to clean up his act before training camp.

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[wppete]

I think Hunts career in the NFL is over. If any team picks him up think about the backlash that team will get. 

[BADOLBILZ]

7 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Nothing will happen here. 

 

 

I blame @stuvian 

 

He had ONE JOB!

 

Hope you had a GREAT PISS @stuvian!!

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, greenyellowred said:

 

The videos were on private property.

 

Agreed. These losers here need to be banned by the moderator.

 

Common areas in a hotel. A matter of public safety concern.  It’s going to come out every time. Have you EVER heard of someone being held accountable for that getting out? 

 

 

[Formerly Allan in MD]

29 minutes ago, 1963Billsfan7 said:

There are no legal issues. No charges were filed 

and no one was hurt. This was investigated by the police and no charges filed. It’s a PR nightmare that’s what it is. No way I would have released him. I would suspend him. Send him to counseling and say we do not condone this type of behavior say he lied to our organization and say this is serious and suspend him. Then get him some help. When things blow over and calm down bring him back after he completed his counseling. Man on man the chiefs are stupid. 

Her head went into the wall and she couldn't stand up straight.  Then he kicked when she was down.  No one was hurt???  It's all good???  Assume you had little problem with Mixon's punch out as well.

[Teddy KGB]

Just now, wppete said:

I think Hunts career in the NFL is over. If any team picks him up think about the backlash that team will get. 

 

Get er done.    Shady is getting old 

[greenyellowred]

7 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Common areas in a hotel. A matter of public safety concern.  It’s going to come out every time. Have you EVER heard of someone being held accountable for that getting out? 

 

 

 

Your arguments are red herrings. It is still private property and their policy is to release video only to law enforcment or with a court order.

Edited December 1, 2018 by greenyellowred

[Augie]

1 minute ago, wppete said:

I think Hunts career in the NFL is over. If any team picks him up think about the backlash that team will get. 

 

I respectfully disagree. If he plays the role properly, he gets forgiven in time. Ray Rice was just too old and too extreme to have enough time to get past it. 

[Buffalo Dude]

Am I the only one that thinks the Chiefs and Steelers are talking about Leveon Bell right now?

[Augie]

1 minute ago, greenyellowred said:

 

Your arguments are red rherrings. It is still private property and their policy is to release video only to law enforcment or with a court order.

 

And you know that policy for each establishment exactly how? (OK, there I’m kidding!)  Don’t confuse policy and reality. The video comes out. THERE is my proof. Your can’t argue that. 

1 minute ago, Buffalo Dude said:

Am I the only one that thinks the Chiefs and Steelers are talking about Leveon Bell right now?

 

Too late to trade, so....why? 

[Shortchaz]

11 minutes ago, Nelius said:

 

So kicking a woman while she's disoriented and on the ground isn't brutal? WTF man? Your sarcasm is obvious. Some of you are really showing your true colors here.

Judging from your posts in this thread, you have strong opinions about what happened in the video.

 

legally speaking, what do you think would be a fair punishment for this “brutal” attack? 

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Dude said:

Am I the only one that thinks the Chiefs and Steelers are talking about Leveon Bell right now?

He can’t be traded anymore, nor can he play for the Steelers. 

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Dude said:

Am I the only one that thinks the Chiefs and Steelers are talking about Leveon Bell right now?

No a lot of people forget about the trade deadline.

[greenyellowred]

2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

And you know that policy for each establishment exactly how? (OK, there I’m kidding!)  Don’t confuse policy and reality. The video comes out. THERE is my proof. Your can’t argue that.

 

Ok, so I guess they will release the video to law enforcment, upon court order, or if paid lots of money.. ? THe NFL tried to get it, through proper channels, but was denied.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

2 hours ago, SWATeam said:

The call of the century!

 

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He can’t be traded anymore, nor can he play for the Steelers. 

 

But.......he CAN be $14  million poorer! Congrats on your well conceived play, Mr Bell. 

[Formerly Allan in MD]

Dan Snyder is itching badly but he can't go there.

[Buffalo_Gal]

11 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

Do you think alcohol and egos were involved?

 

Just maybe ? adding in youth, ego, and a bit of entitlement, and it was a recipe for disaster.

[stevewin]

The thing I care most about in all of this is that now the Cheaters' path the the SB got easier 

[Buffalo Dude]

5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He can’t be traded anymore, nor can he play for the Steelers. 

My bad. I feel like a dope. 

[Augie]

1 minute ago, greenyellowred said:

 

Ok, so I guess they will release the video to law enforcment, upon court order, or if paid lots of money.. ? THe NFL tried to get it, through proper channels, but was denied.

 

Of course, the NFL wanted to see it as much as....I was about to use a political metaphor....the NFL did NOT want to see it! 

 

Of course things happen when money gets involved. Is that not obvious? 

 

Not being facetious, but I’m not sure I really understand your point. Law enforcement and TMZ really did want to see it. Maybe the NFL pretended to want to see it. 

[The Senator]

50 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

What was written there basically contradicts any belief they didn't know anything. They were aware of the incident and investigated, but did not obtain or view the tape (or they claim they knew nothing of the tape)

Maybe he kicked her because the Anthem started playing and he thought she was kneeling?

 

Oh.  Well, in that case, as Gilda Radner would have said, “Never mind.”

 

I’m sure, despite being a woman beater, he is surely one extremely patriotic MF.

 

?

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo Dude said:

My bad. I feel like a dope. 

 

No worries, you couldn’t be nearly the dope that Bell was! 

[greenyellowred]

10 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

Judging from your posts in this thread, you have strong opinions about what happened in the video.

 

legally speaking, what do you think would be a fair punishment for this “brutal” attack? 

 

TMZ has labeled it as brutal, and I agree:

 

 

 

 

[BuffaloRebound]

So theoretically I can set up video cameras all over the place for the ‘public good’ and when the police decide not to file charges, I can then sell the videos to TMZ or blackmail the people in the video.  Seems like privacy laws would prevent this kind of thing.  It’s different if it’s just some random person’s cell phone cam.  If the reason hotels have video cams everywhere is for the public good, using them to destroy a man’s livelihood after police decide not to file charges seems like Hunt would have a good case to sue the hotel.  

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Limeaid said:

I think that is an insult to cesspools which actually have a useful purpose.

Now if PPP spayed and neutered its pets it would have a useful purpose.

 

Dammit, you made me snort my Calvados

[The Senator]

 

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mellinger/article222460020.html

 

I’m paraphrasing here, But to me the key line in the article is, ‘It doesn’t matter what happened beforehand, the important thing is, don’t hit a woman...it’s not hard’.

 

She was 19 years old, ferchrissakes!  WTF were they up to, plying her with alcohol, taking her to a hotel, and demanding she “hook up” with Hunt’s pal?

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Edited December 1, 2018 by The Senator