Chiefs release Kareem Hunt after video from February incident surfaces

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[D521646]

From what I saw he hit her first and then she hit back and then ..well, he pushed both of them to the ground and then he did kick her.. His career is over, if the Rice thing taught us anything, it is that although the NFL can try its  best to protect its stars, the MeToo movement will be all over this, and the NFL doesn't need anything like that..

 

He's done!~

 

 

Too bad, great talent as well.

 

Tim-

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Shortchaz]

Hey yall,

 

Old BBMB member here. Was not going to create an account but this topic is interesting; I decided to join the fray.

 

There are some things going on in this situation that make it and the discussion surrounding it particularly interesting:

·         It involves a famous NFL player

·         Involves a male and female

·         There is a video recording of the event

·         Everyone has access to view the video and share their opinion

·         Conflation between what is: legal, “right”

·         Heightened emphasis placed on violence involving players and women from the NFL

·         Many more

 

The first thing I’d like to address is the conflation between what is legal and what is “right”. Many of the posters in this thread, and people in general, argue that a man should not hit a woman. That is NOT A LAW, rather a moral principle some, I’d say most, try to live by.

 

From a legal standpoint, this is, at best, a case of simple assault. Most people recognize there are varying degrees of assault, and what happens in this case is much closer to the low end of the spectrum than the high.

 

Leading up to the kick, the woman and the man are both willing participants in what is happening. They are both free to leave at any time; they both participate in the escalation.

The kick at the end is where the simple assault takes place.

 

My opinion of the kick is that it is exactly what the law is written for, simple assault. Prosecute it if you want, it’s at best a misdemeanor that would likely be settled with a fine.

[whatdrought]

 

How do these guys never learn to stay away from negative people and situations? Just ridiculous.

 

that being said- it’s also pretty dumb that video can blow up a situation that was already dismissed. 

 

[The Senator]

14 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

If that’s the case, I take it all back.

 

I was under the impression she put her hands on him first.

 

But does the video tell the whole story?

 

Well, from what I’ve read - and there are at least 3 sides to every story - It started in Hunt’s room when the woman refused to “hook up” with Hunt’s friend. Then, Hunt got mad, some sort of “cat fight” ensued between thewoman and Hunt’s girlfriend, and they threw the woman out of the room.

 

Then the incident in the corridor unfolded.

 

But the Chiefs have had months to straighten this out - instead, they tried to bury it.

 

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Edited December 1, 2018 by The Senator

[SWATeam]

4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Nothing will happen here. 

 

3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

 

Already been investigated with no charges filed and he didn't precipitate the incident. 

 

3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Lotta drama mommas on TSW. 

 

Wrong wrong wrong.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

4 minutes ago, The Senator said:

 

Well, from what I’ve read - and there are at least 3 sides to every story - It started in Hunt’s room when the woman refused to “hook up” with Hunt’s friend. Then, Hunt got mad, some sort of “cat fight” ensued between thewoman and Hunt’s girlfriend, and they threw the woman out of the room. (Funny, I thought guys liked catfights!)

 

Then the incident in the corridor unfolded.

 

But the Chiefs have had months to straighten this out - instead, they tried to bury it.

 

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So bloody freaking what?

 

The circumstances don't matter. You don't push a woman, you don't kick a woman, ever.

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

4 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

How do these guys never learn to stay away from negative people and situations? Just ridiculous.

 

that being said- it’s also pretty dumb that video can blow up a situation that was already dismissed. 

 

It was dismissed by police, because they didn’t have evidence that a criminal act occurred. The nfl needs much less to discipline, and have proven that.  but the dumbest thing was him doing this in a hotel where there are cameras everywhere. He had to know there would be a video. 

[DCOrange]

11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

What is there even to investigate? The NFL investigated this whole thing almost a year ago. Now there’s a video. The investigation is over. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

15 minutes ago, suorangefan4 said:

 

I'm going to agree with njbuff on this one. The reason why women think they can abuse men is because of the whole "never hit a woman" rule. They think they're invincible and can go after men because of it.

 

I'm sure that'll fly when your wife hits you and you give her a black eye.

 

I'm CERTAIN the cops will understand your tale of woe.

 

 

[May Day 10]

Ban him the rest of the regular season and put it in the rearview asap

 

 

Nfl wont do that though.  Theyll drag themselves with hunt through the mud

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

 

Says the guy that once accused the national anthem of being racist

 

I'm just chiding you bro; you left it open

 

I do think that Hunt should face discipline--he went after that girl aggressively; not okay.

 

 

How do we get 5 pages into a thread and nobody asks why Hunt and his friends didn't the call the front desk or the police and have the women escorted off the premises?

 

You can't come OUT of the room and pursue an argument like Hunt did and then initiate the physical confrontation..............and then kick them when they are down.

 

I don't care what happens..........all involved were being stupid..........but it's pretty clear that Hunt crossed an extra line physically and he most certainly would have beaten her pretty badly and lost his ENTIRE NFL future if not for people holding him back.    

 

It's a very bad look for KC having a dude on your team that was trying to beat a woman down.

 

 

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

How do we get 5 pages into a thread and nobody asks why Hunt and his friends didn't the call the front desk or the police and have the women escorted off the premises?

 

You can't come OUT of the room and pursue an argument like Hunt did and then initiate the physical confrontation..............and then kick them when they are down.

 

I don't care what happens..........all involved were being stupid..........but it's pretty clear that Hunt crossed an extra line physically and he most certainly would have beaten her pretty badly and lost his ENTIRE NFL future if not for people holding him back.    

 

It's a very bad look for KC having a dude on your team that was trying to beat a woman down.

 

 

 

 

Finally something we agree on

[The Senator]

3 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

 

What is there even to investigate? The NFL investigated this whole thing almost a year ago. Now there’s a video. The investigation is over. 

 

Correction - the investigation WAS over, until the video became public.

 

Now, Goodell’s and the league’s integrity and credibility are on the line, so all of a sudden the investigation is open:

 

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[Andy1]

Hunt must be spending too much time with Tyreek Hill who plead guilty to punching and choking his pregnant girlfriend in 2015.

[SWATeam]

It looks so dumb that the NFL doesn’t care until a video leaks creating public outrage.

[BADOLBILZ]

7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

It was dismissed by police, because they didn’t have evidence that a criminal act occurred. The nfl needs much less to discipline, and have proven that.  but the dumbest thing was him doing this in a hotel where there are cameras everywhere. He had to know there would be a video. 

 

 

No the dumbest thing was him leaving his room.

 

You are paying to stay there which entitles you to have someone else remove the people who aren't guests and are disturbing you.

[Teddy KGB]

Just now, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

No the dumbest thing was him leaving his room.

 

You are paying to stay there which entitles you to have someone else remove the people who aren't guests and are disturbing you.

 

Gotta handle these girls with class like Jeter 

[3rdand12]

4 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

It’s a pretty clear cut case of abuse.  Dollars to donuts he gets 6 games.  The question is this year on their run to the SB. Or first 6 games next year.

shouldn't this be a go to jail thing ? what is happening in this world?

i mean it on video and so ... is fact actually.
 

ooh..suspend him. that will teach him to act with dignity and respect.....

 no it won't. They just get smarter how they cover up these major social digression.

yay

[krf139]

3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

No it isn't. It's far lower that the general population. Check the facts.

Doesn’t matter. Public figures who represent the NFL should be held to a higher standard than the general public. Young children are subjected to this garbage and it’s time for true zero tolerance 

[Not at the table Karlos]

3 hours ago, LABillzFan said:

 

The guy that KICKED her while she was on the ground WAS Kareem.

 

And you seem to be good with kicking an unarmed woman while she's on the ground.

 

That's what I'm getting out of this.

 

You don't seem to understand what a kick is. 

3 minutes ago, krf139 said:

Doesn’t matter. Public figures who represent the NFL should be held to a higher standard than the general public. Young children are subjected to this garbage and it’s time for true zero tolerance 

What about public figures that enforce the law? Off topic, sorry. 

 

Everybody should be held to the same laws. Not pick and choose.  

Edited December 1, 2018 by Not at the table Karlos

[26CornerBlitz]

23 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

 

 

 

Wrong wrong wrong.

HI momma. 

[The Senator]

22 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

 

So bloody freaking what?

 

The circumstances don't matter. You don't push a woman, you don't kick a woman, ever.

 

 

 

Um, Joe, we’re on the same side of this issue.

 

The NFL should come down swiftly and hard on this woman-beating thug.

 

So should the criminal justice system.

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Edited December 1, 2018 by The Senator

[3rdand12]

12 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

How do we get 5 pages into a thread and nobody asks why Hunt and his friends didn't the call the front desk or the police and have the women escorted off the premises?

 

You can't come OUT of the room and pursue an argument like Hunt did and then initiate the physical confrontation..............and then kick them when they are down.

 

I don't care what happens..........all involved were being stupid..........but it's pretty clear that Hunt crossed an extra line physically and he most certainly would have beaten her pretty badly and lost his ENTIRE NFL future if not for people holding him back.    

 

It's a very bad look for KC having a dude on your team that was trying to beat a woman down.

 

 

 

what is this thinking ?

 Bolded.

 this is the ISSUE !

 underlined
this is not so much
Bold and underlined
geesh . and we are talking about optic going forward ?

This is semi acceptable behaviour somehow . gross and disgusting.

 and embarasses me that we see this happening much too often.
that is swept under the rugs of this world.

 

so how does he look as a fantasy pick though  ; )

[BADOLBILZ]

18 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

 

What is there even to investigate? The NFL investigated this whole thing almost a year ago. Now there’s a video. The investigation is over. 

 

 

I am much more interested in the @Not at the table Karlos video!  

 

Transcript:

 

M: inaudible

F: inaudible

M: She got a knife!

 

 

 

"Treat your woman right or get that burning bed at night........you got to treat er' right......treat er' right....  ("Now that's, now that's a Fire!")

[Mr. WEO]

19 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

How do we get 5 pages into a thread and nobody asks why Hunt and his friends didn't the call the front desk or the police and have the women escorted off the premises?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Hello front desk?  Yes this Kareem Hunt in room 1102.  I invited and underage woman into our room and asked her to have sex with my posse.  She refused and I tossed her out of my room.  Now she is getting rather belligerent.  Can you please have someone come up and have her escorted off of the premises? Why thank you"

[The Senator]

42 minutes ago, Golden Goat said:

 

 

?

 

Bill has cameras everywhere!

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[Cmdjr85]

Makes belichicks job a tad essier if play em again. Hunt makes that offense flow

[3rdand12]

1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I am much more interested in the @Not at the table Karlos video!  

 

Transcript:

 

M: inaudible

F: inaudible

M: She got a knife!

 

 

 

"Treat your woman right or get that burning bed at night........you got to treat er' right......treat er' right....  ("Now that's, now that's a Fire!")

had a bad experience ?  lol

 each situation is separate and different

[Not at the table Karlos]

3 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said:

He believes a 130lb women is capable of pushing a 240lb RB into a another huge guy into a women, knocking the man and women woozy. Sign Her now. 

Just making stuff up now? The girl pushed the guy that is nowhere near 240 lbs(Kareem isn't even close to 240) near kareem. Kareem then pushed the guy. You and la really need to get your vision checked. Where is this 240lb guy?

[billsfan_34]

4 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said:

There is literally no difference between this and Ray Rice, but there will be a different outcome.

Sadly, you may be right

[PeterDude]

1 hour ago, njbuff said:

I would have walked away, but the woman put her hands on him.

 

The woman had no right putting her hands on him, so something should happen with her too.

 

But no, she will get away Scott free, while Hunt faces the severe backlash, unjust or not.

It's a #metoo world...

[Not at the table Karlos]

15 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I am much more interested in the @Not at the table Karlos video!  

 

Transcript:

 

M: inaudible

F: inaudible

M: She got a knife!

 

 

 

"Treat your woman right or get that burning bed at night........you got to treat er' right......treat er' right....  ("Now that's, now that's a Fire!")

Lmao i wish there was a video. You could see me get punched in the eye. I ask her if she feels better. She didn't, then hit me in jaw. I laughed and she grabbed a knife. I head to my friends house a couple blocks over while she's screaming my name telling me to stop being a b word and fight her. I Went into raymondos to hide from her. She stood at door screaming for me to come out. Employees said I had to leave. I juked her and tried to jog to friends house but she's faster than me. Grabbed me hit me again, I gave her a bear hug and a kiss. Her cousins came running up and took her back home.  She went home and called the cops on me for beating her. Cops came to my friends and saw me with lumps on my face and her with nothing and her cousins telling them the truth. I declined to press charges and now she gets her ass beat by her current husband calling me to defend her. 

 

 

 

To add a little to shed some light on my views. I sometimes ride share on weekends and deal with drunk couples every weekend. Probably 5 couples a night at minimum and every single time they are drunk and the female is trying to fight the guy while the guy is trying to diffuse it. Not exaggerating. Every single time the girl starts a fight if shes not passed out already. That never goes over well then the girl starts going nuts breaking stuff in my car. 

 

If there's a group of girls coming from a bar the conversation is always who they should have fought or beat up.  

 

When females get drunk they are violent.

Edited December 1, 2018 by Not at the table Karlos

[BADOLBILZ]

6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

"Hello front desk?  Yes this Kareem Hunt in room 1102.  I invited and underage woman into our room and asked her to have sex with my posse.  She refused and I tossed her out of my room.  Now she is getting rather belligerent.  Can you please have someone come up and have her escorted off of the premises? Why thank you"

 

And?

 

You and I apparently don't do the same things in Vegas.

 

 

[SWATeam]

26 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

HI momma. 

Tell us more about how nothing is going to happen from this. ?

 

Really have your finger on the pulse of the league!  

[WideNine]

4 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

im just curious, does anyone know his relationship with the woman? 

 

Hired help...

um....that would not provide the right service, or that may have been what Kareem thought.

 

According to the article the police report indicated the altercation happened at a hotel when she would not hook up with someone in his entourage....so I may just be reading too much into it.

 

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

Hired help...

um....that would not provide the right service, or that may have been what Kareem thought.

 

According to the article the police report indicated the altercation happened at a hotel when she would not hook up with someone in his entourage....so I may just be reading too much into it.

 

 

 

From her interaction with the police afterward it looked like they were all out partying and came back to the hotel. Definitely didn’t look like she was hired.

[Not at the table Karlos]

2 hours ago, davspo said:

This should be interesting to watch- does use of the n word trump hitting  a woman? I guess the NFL will let us know. 

Where did he hit her? Unless you're listening to @TheTruthHurts or @LABillzFan and Kareem hunt gained 30 lbs, tackled her using all of his body weight, dragged her to the corner and set her up on the turnbuckle and hit her with a 10 piece while the crowd counted.  I'm still trying to figure out what video these two watched.

[YoloinOhio]