The "Process:" Not Just a McDermott Cliche

[TigerJ]

I was just watching NFL Live on ESPN.  Post game interviews of the Indianapolis Colts had both players and coach mentioning the process a lot.  The Colts have like a 6 game win streak.  Obviously, the "Process" is not a guarantee of winning lots of games, especially for a team with lots of young players in critical positions and some talent holes in a few important positions (like the Bills, but the process is not a bad thing.  It's just a methodical approach to building a winning team and culture.

Edited November 19, 2018 by TigerJ

[Bangarang]

It never was just a McD cliche

[Warcodered]

My world is shattering.

[gobills1212]

Good grief... maybe ya wanna delete this before it gets out of hand. Id ask if you're new - but its like asking if poo smells bad. At any rate, thanks for sharing? Or feeling compelled to share? 450+ rep points should serve you better

Edited November 19, 2018 by gobills1212

[BillsfaninChicago]

It is tough for me to process this.

[TigerJ]

11 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

It never was just a McD cliche

No, it wasn't.  I posted because a number of fans have treated it that way, and their implication was derogatory.

[White Linen]

1 minute ago, TigerJ said:

No, it wasn't.  I posted because a number of fans have treated it that way, and their implication was derogatory.

 

I think the point bang is making is that just because fans have bashed him for it, never meant anyone thought he was the only coach using that term. 

[Best Player Available]

I need a drink. Who what of thought that Mcd was using a cliche? 

[Big Turk]

The GM the Baltimore Orioles just hired from the Houston Astros believes in "Trust the Process" too...it transcends sports!

Edited November 19, 2018 by matter2003

[row_33]

Sixers kept using it for the last decade as they deliberately tanked away seasons gleefully

 

then went ahead and signed and traded for a contender instantly

 

[TigerJ]

15 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

I think the point bang is making is that just because fans have bashed him for it, never meant anyone thought he was the only coach using that term. 

I can buy that.  My motive in posting it to begin with is that I think it's a relatively unintelligent way to try and bash the head coach.

[row_33]

9 minutes ago, TigerJ said:

I can buy that.  My motive in posting it to begin with is that I think it's a relatively unintelligent way to try and bash the head coach.

 

a very good set-up line for 235 punch lines that can be thought up by Bills fans 

 

 

[Gugny]

McDermott is a Philly boy.  "The Process," found him ... he didn't find "The Process."

[RalphWilson'sNewWar]

“The Process” is a beautiful, fail safe, Get Out of Jail Free Card to be played at any time for any situation.  It’s brilliant.

 

- You win by 30.  “Winning Big is part of the process.

- You lose by 30 at home against inferior opponent. “Learning not to be over confident is part of the process.”

 

its all true...but at all time creates a rigged game to deflect any responsibility and just keep moving forward.

 

i think it’s brilliant.

[Steptide]

"the process" is a term used by coaches that sums up a team as a whole. It simply means this : "we currently suck and we're in the PROCESS of building a winning team". So everytime you hear "the process" or "trust the process" refer to the meaning I just referred to

[Mr. WEO]

This, however, is McD's:

 

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Plagiarism is part of the process  

[Warcodered]

I always thought it was pretty simple. That it was what players/coaches needed to do in order to win games.

[Soda Popinski]

Call it whatever you want it's all about getting the 53 men on the roster to buy into what the HC is selling, and that is almost always the same thing.  Hard work, attention to detail, sacrifice, a positive attitude, and mental toughness.  

 

You sell your locker room on that, and you have a foundation for winning.  You get talented players to buy in, you can win 8 games a year.   You get a franchise QB, and a talented roster that buys in, you get a dynasty.   

[row_33]

24 minutes ago, Steptide said:

"the process" is a term used by coaches that sums up a team as a whole. It simply means this : "we currently suck and we're in the PROCESS of building a winning team". So everytime you hear "the process" or "trust the process" refer to the meaning I just referred to

 

 

Did Belichick bypass losses by pointing to a process?

 

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, Soda Popinski said:

Call it whatever you want it's all about getting the 53 men on the roster to buy into what the HC is selling, and that is almost always the same thing.  Hard work, attention to detail, sacrifice, a positive attitude, and mental toughness.  

 

You sell your locker room on that, and you have a foundation for winning.  You get talented players to buy in, you can win 8 games a year.   You get a franchise QB, and a talented roster that buys in, you get a dynasty.   

 

"Culture trumps talent."

- Sean McDermott

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

....file a patent...........

[row_33]

9 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said:

Call it whatever you want it's all about getting the 53 men on the roster to buy into what the HC is selling, and that is almost always the same thing.  Hard work, attention to detail, sacrifice, a positive attitude, and mental toughness.  

 

You sell your locker room on that, and you have a foundation for winning.  You get talented players to buy in, you can win 8 games a year.   You get a franchise QB, and a talented roster that buys in, you get a dynasty.   

 

quite frankly around 2000 I came to believe that the concept of a sports dynasty was finished

 

with free agency and the free movement of players at their whim and caprice it seemed like it would never happen again

 

i am currently watching the Pats and Warriors dynasties, even by the loosest of definitions, and am not sure we will ever see the likes of this kind of combination lasting more than 2 years again.

 

so trying to imitate them after the fact may not be the best way to have a decent run of seasons in the near future?

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

6 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

quite frankly around 2000 I came to believe that the concept of a sports dynasty was finished

 

with free agency and the free movement of players at their whim and caprice it seemed like it would never happen again

 

i am currently watching the Pats and Warriors dynasties, even by the loosest of definitions, and am not sure we will ever see the likes of this kind of combination lasting more than 2 years again.

 

so trying to imitate them after the fact may not be the best way to have a decent run of seasons in the near future?

 

 

...hard to deny that the Pats and Steelers are probably the two best top to bottom football organizations in the league.....non-meddling ownership, managerial and coaching continuity with the ability to replace those who get offers elsewhere, "our way" or adios, players routinely granting "hometown discounts" to stay, opportunities given those players who have had scrapes elsewhere to redeem themselves on a short leash....play and you stay....combined ELEVEN Lombardis may mean they're doing something right........

[row_33]

10 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...hard to deny that the Pats and Steelers are probably the two best top to bottom football organizations in the league.....non-meddling ownership, managerial and coaching continuity with the ability to replace those who get offers elsewhere, "our way" or adios, players routinely granting "hometown discounts" to stay, opportunities given those players who have had scrapes elsewhere to redeem themselves on a short leash....play and you stay....combined ELEVEN Lombardis may mean they're doing something right........

 

agreed on the Pats and Steelers as the two best, Steelers going back a lot longer time, which thins out the SB winning percentage....

 

 

Dallas likes to think it belongs on the stage...

 

[hondo in seattle]

I'm not sure why some Bills fans obsess over McD's use of the word, "process."  Virtually any leader  tasked with rebuilding a team or organization has some kind of plan or methodology in mind.  Several sports coaches - not just on the Bills or Colts - like to use "process" to describe their method or plan.  Long before McD, even I've used the phrase "the process" when talking about building up business teams.   The word is apropos because building a winning team isn't like flipping on a light switch - it's a series of complimentary actions.

 

McD has never laid out (to the public, anyway) the specifics of his particular process.  Maybe he's never really formulated a list.  But I imagine the elements would include:

 

*  build a winning culture

*  find players who put team first

*  practice hard, play hard

*  pay attention to detail

*  be on time

*  hold each other accountability

*  minimize whining & negativity

 

In other words, it's a lot like the processes of Belichick, Cowher, Walsh and many others. 

 

I have little doubt in the wisdom of McD's process - as best as I can discern it.  The pertinent question is: Can he execute it as well as the guys who win Super Bowls?  Patton once said something to the effect that 5% of the success of any plan depends on the plan itself. The other 95% is execution.  

 

With a very limited payroll, McD has done a nice job building the D.  But we've seen this all too many times in our history.  Either the O is good or the D is good  but they're almost never good at the same time.  Can Beane and McD break that trend?  Next year we'll learn how well they draft; how effectively they attract FAs; and what McD does with the influx of new blood.  Until then, I think it's a bit premature to judge the Beane/McD process, plan, method, program, strategy, system, modus operandi or whatever you want to call it.  But I'm glad they have one because they'd be idiots if they didn't.  

 

 

 

[row_33]

13 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

I'm not sure why some Bills fans obsess over McD's use of the word, "process."  Virtually any leader  tasked with rebuilding a team or organization has some kind of plan or methodology in mind.  Several sports coaches - not just on the Bills or Colts - like to use "process" to describe their method or plan.  Long before McD, even I've used the phrase "the process" when talking about building up business teams.   The word is apropos because building a winning team isn't like flipping on a light switch - it's a series of complimentary actions.

 

McD has never laid out (to the public, anyway) the specifics of his particular process.  Maybe he's never really formulated a list.  But I imagine the elements would include:

 

*  build a winning culture

*  find players who put team first

*  practice hard, play hard

*  pay attention to detail

*  be on time

*  hold each other accountability

*  minimize whining & negativity

 

In other words, it's a lot like the processes of Belichick, Cowher, Walsh and many others. 

 

I have little doubt in the wisdom of McD's process - as best as I can discern it.  The pertinent question is: Can he execute it as well as the guys who win Super Bowls?  Patton once said something to the effect that 5% of the success of any plan depends on the plan itself. The other 95% is execution.  

 

With a very limited payroll, McD has done a nice job building the D.  But we've seen this all too many times in our history.  Either the O is good or the D is good  but they're almost never good at the same time.  Can Beane and McD break that trend?  Next year we'll learn how well they draft; how effectively they attract FAs; and what McD does with the influx of new blood.  Until then, I think it's a bit premature to judge the Beane/McD process, plan, method, program, strategy, system, modus operandi or whatever you want to call it.  But I'm glad they have one because they'd be idiots if they didn't.  

 

 

 

 

 

I accept that he is willing to try to build a decent contender from scratch and some positive things are developing this season for the future.

 

A few prior coaches wanted to flip the team into a pseudo-contender, nobody should have been fooled.

 

 

 

[vorpma]

1 hour ago, TigerJ said:

I was just watching NFL Live on ESPN.  Post game interviews of the Indianapolis Colts had both players and coach mentioning the process a lot.  The Colts have like a 6 game win streak.  Obviously, the "Process" is not a guarantee of winning lots of games, especially for a team with lots of young players in critical positions and some talent holes in a few important positions (like the Bills, but the process is not a bad thing.  It's just a methodical approach to building a winning team and culture.

Man, you are looking to send some over edge here on TBD with this post ha ha!!!

25 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

I'm not sure why some Bills fans obsess over McD's use of the word, "process."  Virtually any leader  tasked with rebuilding a team or organization has some kind of plan or methodology in mind.  Several sports coaches - not just on the Bills or Colts - like to use "process" to describe their method or plan.  Long before McD, even I've used the phrase "the process" when talking about building up business teams.   The word is apropos because building a winning team isn't like flipping on a light switch - it's a series of complimentary actions.

 

McD has never laid out (to the public, anyway) the specifics of his particular process.  Maybe he's never really formulated a list.  But I imagine the elements would include:

 

*  build a winning culture

*  find players who put team first

*  practice hard, play hard

*  pay attention to detail

*  be on time

*  hold each other accountability

*  minimize whining & negativity

 

In other words, it's a lot like the processes of Belichick, Cowher, Walsh and many others. 

 

I have little doubt in the wisdom of McD's process - as best as I can discern it.  The pertinent question is: Can he execute it as well as the guys who win Super Bowls?  Patton once said something to the effect that 5% of the success of any plan depends on the plan itself. The other 95% is execution.  

 

With a very limited payroll, McD has done a nice job building the D.  But we've seen this all too many times in our history.  Either the O is good or the D is good  but they're almost never good at the same time.  Can Beane and McD break that trend?  Next year we'll learn how well they draft; how effectively they attract FAs; and what McD does with the influx of new blood.  Until then, I think it's a bit premature to judge the Beane/McD process, plan, method, program, strategy, system, modus operandi or whatever you want to call it.  But I'm glad they have one because they'd be idiots if they didn't.  

 

 

 

Be prepared to get attacked - really good post, well written and thought out!

[Matty the Dustmop]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

This, however, is McD's:

 

 

 

Nice portrait of Mr.McClappy

[Steptide]

52 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

 

Did Belichick bypass losses by pointing to a process?

 

He's had a good team since he took over new England. I think when you're in the playoffs and have 5 rings, you can afford a loss without having to give excuses 

[row_33]

9 minutes ago, Steptide said:

He's had a good team since he took over new England. I think when you're in the playoffs and have 5 rings, you can afford a loss without having to give excuses 

 

 

but what does this have to do with rebuilding a team?

 

pointing at a success doesn't work in life, you can't just shape-shift yourself into becoming them

 

 

[TAinLack.]

1 hour ago, Steptide said:

"the process" is a term used by coaches that sums up a team as a whole. It simply means this : "we currently suck and we're in the PROCESS of building a winning team". So everytime you hear "the process" or "trust the process" refer to the meaning I just referred to

Reminds me of Darcy Regier and his "Organization" excuses.

[Beast]

I heard a stat today that the Bills have not been favored to win once this year.

 

Add in last year, where the Bills record belied the talent on the team and I am buying into whatever this process may be.

 

Looking forward to what they will do this off season to fix the woes on offense.

[Augie]

1 hour ago, vorpma said:

Man, you are looking to send some over edge here on TBD with this post ha ha!!!

Be prepared to get attacked - really good post, well written and thought out!

 

Let the Haters hate, and cry themselves to sleep. 

[hondo in seattle]

9 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said:

I heard a stat today that the Bills have not been favored to win once this year.

 

Add in last year, where the Bills record belied the talent on the team and I am buying into whatever this process may be.

 

Looking forward to what they will do this off season to fix the woes on offense.

 

If Vegas odds are determined by roster spending, we would be underdogs every game this season.  

 

 

[H2o]

Trust the process

[Epstein's Mother]

Replace "process" with "plan".  Coaches have been saying the same tired thing for decades.

[LABILLBACKER]

3 hours ago, Bangarang said:

It never was just a McD cliche

It's pretty much used by every sports team in the world. It's a cute and trendy little word to describe "I need more time". In 5 years they'll be another term to replace "process" and "culture" and "narrative" and on and on.........

[without a drought]

I hope when the XFL comes back that someone changes their name to "The Process".

[tbarg12]

“I’ll need to review the tape and see where the process started”