TigerJ Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) I was just watching NFL Live on ESPN. Post game interviews of the Indianapolis Colts had both players and coach mentioning the process a lot. The Colts have like a 6 game win streak. Obviously, the "Process" is not a guarantee of winning lots of games, especially for a team with lots of young players in critical positions and some talent holes in a few important positions (like the Bills, but the process is not a bad thing. It's just a methodical approach to building a winning team and culture. Edited November 19, 2018 by TigerJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 It never was just a McD cliche 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 My world is shattering. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) Good grief... maybe ya wanna delete this before it gets out of hand. Id ask if you're new - but its like asking if poo smells bad. At any rate, thanks for sharing? Or feeling compelled to share? 450+ rep points should serve you better Edited November 19, 2018 by gobills1212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 It is tough for me to process this. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, Bangarang said: It never was just a McD cliche No, it wasn't. I posted because a number of fans have treated it that way, and their implication was derogatory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 minute ago, TigerJ said: No, it wasn't. I posted because a number of fans have treated it that way, and their implication was derogatory. I think the point bang is making is that just because fans have bashed him for it, never meant anyone thought he was the only coach using that term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I need a drink. Who what of thought that Mcd was using a cliche? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) The GM the Baltimore Orioles just hired from the Houston Astros believes in "Trust the Process" too...it transcends sports! Edited November 19, 2018 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Sixers kept using it for the last decade as they deliberately tanked away seasons gleefully then went ahead and signed and traded for a contender instantly 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, White Linen said: I think the point bang is making is that just because fans have bashed him for it, never meant anyone thought he was the only coach using that term. I can buy that. My motive in posting it to begin with is that I think it's a relatively unintelligent way to try and bash the head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, TigerJ said: I can buy that. My motive in posting it to begin with is that I think it's a relatively unintelligent way to try and bash the head coach. a very good set-up line for 235 punch lines that can be thought up by Bills fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 McDermott is a Philly boy. "The Process," found him ... he didn't find "The Process." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 “The Process” is a beautiful, fail safe, Get Out of Jail Free Card to be played at any time for any situation. It’s brilliant. - You win by 30. “Winning Big is part of the process. - You lose by 30 at home against inferior opponent. “Learning not to be over confident is part of the process.” its all true...but at all time creates a rigged game to deflect any responsibility and just keep moving forward. i think it’s brilliant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 "the process" is a term used by coaches that sums up a team as a whole. It simply means this : "we currently suck and we're in the PROCESS of building a winning team". So everytime you hear "the process" or "trust the process" refer to the meaning I just referred to 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 This, however, is McD's: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Plagiarism is part of the process 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I always thought it was pretty simple. That it was what players/coaches needed to do in order to win games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Call it whatever you want it's all about getting the 53 men on the roster to buy into what the HC is selling, and that is almost always the same thing. Hard work, attention to detail, sacrifice, a positive attitude, and mental toughness. You sell your locker room on that, and you have a foundation for winning. You get talented players to buy in, you can win 8 games a year. You get a franchise QB, and a talented roster that buys in, you get a dynasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, Steptide said: "the process" is a term used by coaches that sums up a team as a whole. It simply means this : "we currently suck and we're in the PROCESS of building a winning team". So everytime you hear "the process" or "trust the process" refer to the meaning I just referred to Did Belichick bypass losses by pointing to a process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Soda Popinski said: Call it whatever you want it's all about getting the 53 men on the roster to buy into what the HC is selling, and that is almost always the same thing. Hard work, attention to detail, sacrifice, a positive attitude, and mental toughness. You sell your locker room on that, and you have a foundation for winning. You get talented players to buy in, you can win 8 games a year. You get a franchise QB, and a talented roster that buys in, you get a dynasty. "Culture trumps talent." - Sean McDermott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 ....file a patent........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: Call it whatever you want it's all about getting the 53 men on the roster to buy into what the HC is selling, and that is almost always the same thing. Hard work, attention to detail, sacrifice, a positive attitude, and mental toughness. You sell your locker room on that, and you have a foundation for winning. You get talented players to buy in, you can win 8 games a year. You get a franchise QB, and a talented roster that buys in, you get a dynasty. quite frankly around 2000 I came to believe that the concept of a sports dynasty was finished with free agency and the free movement of players at their whim and caprice it seemed like it would never happen again i am currently watching the Pats and Warriors dynasties, even by the loosest of definitions, and am not sure we will ever see the likes of this kind of combination lasting more than 2 years again. so trying to imitate them after the fact may not be the best way to have a decent run of seasons in the near future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, row_33 said: quite frankly around 2000 I came to believe that the concept of a sports dynasty was finished with free agency and the free movement of players at their whim and caprice it seemed like it would never happen again i am currently watching the Pats and Warriors dynasties, even by the loosest of definitions, and am not sure we will ever see the likes of this kind of combination lasting more than 2 years again. so trying to imitate them after the fact may not be the best way to have a decent run of seasons in the near future? ...hard to deny that the Pats and Steelers are probably the two best top to bottom football organizations in the league.....non-meddling ownership, managerial and coaching continuity with the ability to replace those who get offers elsewhere, "our way" or adios, players routinely granting "hometown discounts" to stay, opportunities given those players who have had scrapes elsewhere to redeem themselves on a short leash....play and you stay....combined ELEVEN Lombardis may mean they're doing something right........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...hard to deny that the Pats and Steelers are probably the two best top to bottom football organizations in the league.....non-meddling ownership, managerial and coaching continuity with the ability to replace those who get offers elsewhere, "our way" or adios, players routinely granting "hometown discounts" to stay, opportunities given those players who have had scrapes elsewhere to redeem themselves on a short leash....play and you stay....combined ELEVEN Lombardis may mean they're doing something right........ agreed on the Pats and Steelers as the two best, Steelers going back a lot longer time, which thins out the SB winning percentage.... Dallas likes to think it belongs on the stage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I'm not sure why some Bills fans obsess over McD's use of the word, "process." Virtually any leader tasked with rebuilding a team or organization has some kind of plan or methodology in mind. Several sports coaches - not just on the Bills or Colts - like to use "process" to describe their method or plan. Long before McD, even I've used the phrase "the process" when talking about building up business teams. The word is apropos because building a winning team isn't like flipping on a light switch - it's a series of complimentary actions. McD has never laid out (to the public, anyway) the specifics of his particular process. Maybe he's never really formulated a list. But I imagine the elements would include: * build a winning culture * find players who put team first * practice hard, play hard * pay attention to detail * be on time * hold each other accountability * minimize whining & negativity In other words, it's a lot like the processes of Belichick, Cowher, Walsh and many others. I have little doubt in the wisdom of McD's process - as best as I can discern it. The pertinent question is: Can he execute it as well as the guys who win Super Bowls? Patton once said something to the effect that 5% of the success of any plan depends on the plan itself. The other 95% is execution. With a very limited payroll, McD has done a nice job building the D. But we've seen this all too many times in our history. Either the O is good or the D is good but they're almost never good at the same time. Can Beane and McD break that trend? Next year we'll learn how well they draft; how effectively they attract FAs; and what McD does with the influx of new blood. Until then, I think it's a bit premature to judge the Beane/McD process, plan, method, program, strategy, system, modus operandi or whatever you want to call it. But I'm glad they have one because they'd be idiots if they didn't. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: I'm not sure why some Bills fans obsess over McD's use of the word, "process." Virtually any leader tasked with rebuilding a team or organization has some kind of plan or methodology in mind. Several sports coaches - not just on the Bills or Colts - like to use "process" to describe their method or plan. Long before McD, even I've used the phrase "the process" when talking about building up business teams. The word is apropos because building a winning team isn't like flipping on a light switch - it's a series of complimentary actions. McD has never laid out (to the public, anyway) the specifics of his particular process. Maybe he's never really formulated a list. But I imagine the elements would include: * build a winning culture * find players who put team first * practice hard, play hard * pay attention to detail * be on time * hold each other accountability * minimize whining & negativity In other words, it's a lot like the processes of Belichick, Cowher, Walsh and many others. I have little doubt in the wisdom of McD's process - as best as I can discern it. The pertinent question is: Can he execute it as well as the guys who win Super Bowls? Patton once said something to the effect that 5% of the success of any plan depends on the plan itself. The other 95% is execution. With a very limited payroll, McD has done a nice job building the D. But we've seen this all too many times in our history. Either the O is good or the D is good but they're almost never good at the same time. Can Beane and McD break that trend? Next year we'll learn how well they draft; how effectively they attract FAs; and what McD does with the influx of new blood. Until then, I think it's a bit premature to judge the Beane/McD process, plan, method, program, strategy, system, modus operandi or whatever you want to call it. But I'm glad they have one because they'd be idiots if they didn't. I accept that he is willing to try to build a decent contender from scratch and some positive things are developing this season for the future. A few prior coaches wanted to flip the team into a pseudo-contender, nobody should have been fooled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 hour ago, TigerJ said: I was just watching NFL Live on ESPN. Post game interviews of the Indianapolis Colts had both players and coach mentioning the process a lot. The Colts have like a 6 game win streak. Obviously, the "Process" is not a guarantee of winning lots of games, especially for a team with lots of young players in critical positions and some talent holes in a few important positions (like the Bills, but the process is not a bad thing. It's just a methodical approach to building a winning team and culture. Man, you are looking to send some over edge here on TBD with this post ha ha!!! 25 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: I'm not sure why some Bills fans obsess over McD's use of the word, "process." Virtually any leader tasked with rebuilding a team or organization has some kind of plan or methodology in mind. Several sports coaches - not just on the Bills or Colts - like to use "process" to describe their method or plan. Long before McD, even I've used the phrase "the process" when talking about building up business teams. The word is apropos because building a winning team isn't like flipping on a light switch - it's a series of complimentary actions. McD has never laid out (to the public, anyway) the specifics of his particular process. Maybe he's never really formulated a list. But I imagine the elements would include: * build a winning culture * find players who put team first * practice hard, play hard * pay attention to detail * be on time * hold each other accountability * minimize whining & negativity In other words, it's a lot like the processes of Belichick, Cowher, Walsh and many others. I have little doubt in the wisdom of McD's process - as best as I can discern it. The pertinent question is: Can he execute it as well as the guys who win Super Bowls? Patton once said something to the effect that 5% of the success of any plan depends on the plan itself. The other 95% is execution. With a very limited payroll, McD has done a nice job building the D. But we've seen this all too many times in our history. Either the O is good or the D is good but they're almost never good at the same time. Can Beane and McD break that trend? Next year we'll learn how well they draft; how effectively they attract FAs; and what McD does with the influx of new blood. Until then, I think it's a bit premature to judge the Beane/McD process, plan, method, program, strategy, system, modus operandi or whatever you want to call it. But I'm glad they have one because they'd be idiots if they didn't. Be prepared to get attacked - really good post, well written and thought out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty the Dustmop Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: This, however, is McD's: Nice portrait of Mr.McClappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 52 minutes ago, row_33 said: Did Belichick bypass losses by pointing to a process? He's had a good team since he took over new England. I think when you're in the playoffs and have 5 rings, you can afford a loss without having to give excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Steptide said: He's had a good team since he took over new England. I think when you're in the playoffs and have 5 rings, you can afford a loss without having to give excuses but what does this have to do with rebuilding a team? pointing at a success doesn't work in life, you can't just shape-shift yourself into becoming them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Steptide said: "the process" is a term used by coaches that sums up a team as a whole. It simply means this : "we currently suck and we're in the PROCESS of building a winning team". So everytime you hear "the process" or "trust the process" refer to the meaning I just referred to Reminds me of Darcy Regier and his "Organization" excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I heard a stat today that the Bills have not been favored to win once this year. Add in last year, where the Bills record belied the talent on the team and I am buying into whatever this process may be. Looking forward to what they will do this off season to fix the woes on offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 hour ago, vorpma said: Man, you are looking to send some over edge here on TBD with this post ha ha!!! Be prepared to get attacked - really good post, well written and thought out! Let the Haters hate, and cry themselves to sleep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said: I heard a stat today that the Bills have not been favored to win once this year. Add in last year, where the Bills record belied the talent on the team and I am buying into whatever this process may be. Looking forward to what they will do this off season to fix the woes on offense. If Vegas odds are determined by roster spending, we would be underdogs every game this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Trust the process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Replace "process" with "plan". Coaches have been saying the same tired thing for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Bangarang said: It never was just a McD cliche It's pretty much used by every sports team in the world. It's a cute and trendy little word to describe "I need more time". In 5 years they'll be another term to replace "process" and "culture" and "narrative" and on and on......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I hope when the XFL comes back that someone changes their name to "The Process". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarg12 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 “I’ll need to review the tape and see where the process started” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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