4_kidd_4 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: well, the Colts game last year had 35K there..and the snow was now where near projected to be as bad as it was. I was not at the Miami game, so dont remember if that was full or not. I think lifting the blackout rule can hurt a team like the Bills..i thought it was a good rule. Well as for the Colts game, that was a weather event like no other for a home game here. Plus we live in a hyper-alert age with constant alerts and warning and weather projections etc., and regardless if the storm hits or not people will be scared away. People were right to stay away, the conditions were brutal for driving in the immediate area of the stadium postgame. Clear as day as soon as we hit Rt 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Well as for the Colts game, that was a weather event like no other for a home game here. Plus we live in a hyper-alert age with constant alerts and warning and weather projections etc., and regardless if the storm hits or not people will be scared away. People were right to stay away, the conditions were brutal for driving in the immediate area of the stadium postgame. Clear as day as soon as we hit Rt 5. but none of us had any clue THAT was going to happen. My son flew home after the game...folks in Richmond were shocked he was in school next day...airport less than inch!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I’m biased because I live out here but Century Link is the best one I’ve been to. I’ve been to 7 and it’s the nicest and has the best atmosphere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Seattle's pretty cool, where the fans are covered from the rain but the field is in the open. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 absolutely no desire for a climate controlled stadium of any sort. personally, I thought lucas oil sucked the gameday experience right out of gameday. it just didn't feel right at all. I'll stay outside. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: but none of us had any clue THAT was going to happen. My son flew home after the game...folks in Richmond were shocked he was in school next day...airport less than inch!!!! I misread your previous post, thought you were saying it wasn’t that bad. It was crazy and a ton of fun. I only snapped a few pics bc my screen was soaked with snow every time I tried to take my phone out. My pics from 12:30 inside the stadium are crazy, you can’t even see the upper deck. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I’ve maybe been to about 1/3rd of them. The new Atlanta stadium is far and away the nicest that I’ve been to. I haven’t been to Jerry World yet though (next season). In in terms of the model for the Bills Lucas Oil seems to be the most practical. ...think it was $700 mil which translates into approximately $820 mil today....slightly less than Dunkirk Don's...... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 38 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: If this team is ever in serious contention in december again that barn will be full, roof or not. I will add that I do think regularly cramming three home games here in December is a bit of an attempt at sway by the league to prod ownership towards a new building. I don't...during the Superbowl '90s teams....there were plenty of home games in December...back when home field advantage meant something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, nucci said: I don't...during the Superbowl '90s teams....there were plenty of home games in December...back when home field advantage meant something The ownership scenario and the league overall is quite different than it was roughly 30 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, 4_kidd_4 said: The ownership scenario and the league overall is quite different than it was roughly 30 years ago. Yeah, there is that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 39 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said: Those who don't want a new stadium: If you want Goodell and other owners to stay mad at Buffalo and do things to hurt the franchise on the field, stay in New Era. We must give into the billionaires greed to have a chance in today's NFL. Build a new stadium and fast. Hey! Stay on topic or the OP will get upset at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Since the retractable roof technology has been relatively perfected, I think the Bills should go that route. No need to build a permanent roof. I do believe a stadium in Buffalo should have no more than 60K seats. Keep it somewhat smaller and intimate inside. Can use a facility like that for years to come and be able to attract multiple year-round events. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 38 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Well as for the Colts game, that was a weather event like no other for a home game here. Plus we live in a hyper-alert age with constant alerts and warning and weather projections etc., and regardless if the storm hits or not people will be scared away. People were right to stay away, the conditions were brutal for driving in the immediate area of the stadium postgame. Clear as day as soon as we hit Rt 5. The OP believes posts like these are nonsense. Please stay on topic or he will attack 18 minutes ago, nucci said: 18 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: The ownership scenario and the league overall is quite different than it was roughly 30 years ago. Yeah, there is that The OP wishes you would stay on topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevnallen Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..Lucas Oil Field......Indy............ I've been to AT&T Stadium (Cowboys). It is awesome!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 52 minutes ago, joesixpack said: No. Not until you, and every other thread crapper is run out of here So you're a crapper chaser..... .....one just got away from you: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarg12 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Probably something like this... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Augie said: They have the retractable roof working again, which makes it even better. While it’s great for football and soccer, I’m fascinated by the Vikings stadium, but I have not been there (yet). What passes as a retractable roof these days is crap. That hole in Atlanta stadium is about the size of a manhole giant sized sphincter muscle look to it to top it all off. FWIW: Miller Park never makes you feel like you are outside when the fan shaped roof is open. The side walls are so high you feel like you are in a prison exercise yard. KC had the right idea with a few mocks where a large half moon roof on rails would have moved from on top of Kauffman Stadium to then rail over to be on top of Arrowhead as needed. That would have preserved the being outside feel as intended. KC tax payers turned it down a couple times. https://www.thepitchkc.com/news/article/20568115/a-look-back-at-the-original-truman-sports-complex-plans-roof-and-all 1st pic was original to roll on rails between the two stadiums. 2nd pic was referendum that voters rejected in 2008 that would have brought the 2015 Super Bolw to KC. They approved the refurbishment of Arrowhead jut rejected the dome which would have been stationary over Arrowhead only. Edited November 9, 2018 by cba fan 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: For an old curmudgeon like me, I loved Lambeau. I mean criminy were two rows from the top and sight lines were like the clubs. The concourses were awesome and wide and plenty of space. Being a realist, I also understand a roof of some kind is prolly a have to have, not a nice to have. So if we could build a Lambeau type field, a big bowl with bench seating, nicer clubs for the swells to sit in up top..and stick a retractable see-through roof on that sucker I am all in. If Lambeau was our goal, which unfortunately doesn't seem to be the case, I'd rather a full renovation of our current stadium, like they did. It could be done like Wrigley was, where they worked on certain sections during the off season over certain points of the year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 LA Chargers. Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, bmur66 said: It wasn't always that way. Buffalo players used to ride snowmobiles, hunt, and sleep on their porches in T shirts. Raiders 51-3 baby. Today they are kitties. The Bills team that beat the Raiders 51-3 used to go skiing until the early hours of the morning, hunt jailbait, and pass out in bars. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: well, the Colts game last year had 35K there..and the snow was now where near projected to be as bad as it was. I was not at the Miami game, so dont remember if that was full or not. I think lifting the blackout rule can hurt a team like the Bills..i thought it was a good rule. For whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 28 minutes ago, tbarg12 said: Probably something like this... “Bank on Buffalo Resurgence Brewing Field at New Era Stadium” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ..Lucas Oil Field......Indy............ I was just there. That sucks. Like going to a hockey game. Indy is so sterile. Yay! Shopping at TJMaxx downtown! 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: I am actually fine with that..but i do think December game attendance be better with a roof. Even when team is competitive, lots of folks will not sit in the cold when every game now is guaranteed to be on TV I find watching game on TV is unwatachble. The game is too far gone, wrecked with all the tech, rules, replays. It's better being at game. Everything has become so sterile. Being there actually is the last hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, iinii said: For whom? for the Bills and season ticket holders if they care about resale value...some like me go into the season knowing we will eat the December games if we cant make it. Seasons really are silly for out of town people like me..way cheaper to buy single games...but having them gives me an excuse to get to more games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I’ve been to a few. I’d rank Minneapolis and Dallas at the top. Both are enclosed but have so much natural light that you feel like you’re outside. Nicely done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: for the Bills and season ticket holders if they care about resale value...some like me go into the season knowing we will eat the December games if we cant make it. Seasons really are silly for out of town people like me..way cheaper to buy single games...but having them gives me an excuse to get to more games Let’s say the Bills are 4-8 going into December. You think the tickets are going to be that much more valuable if the game is blacked out? Times have changed, there are just too many other options now. As far as the Bills go, Pegs only loses pocket change. TV is the cash cow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Sorry, but Arizona. Great location, great stadium and looks great from the outside. A grass field in a dome, the field actually can be moved out of the stadium for sunlight, water and concerts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Yav said: Sorry, but Arizona. Great location, great stadium and looks great from the outside. A grass field in a dome, the field actually can be moved out of the stadium for sunlight, water and concerts. Nah! It’s super dark inside. I’ve been there and was not a big fan...at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Nah! It’s super dark inside. I’ve been there and was not a big fan...at all. I think I can win you over... Its hot here, the hotter the weather the less clothing on the hot women. Not to mention Westgate is right there and they just opened a Top Golf so there's a lot to do in the area after the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Just now, Yav said: I think I can win you over... Its hot here, the hotter the weather the less clothing on the hot women. Not to mention Westgate is right there and they just opened a Top Golf so there's a lot to do in the area after the game. Well...there is that! Out of curiosity, have you been to Dallas or Minnesota? Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Well...there is that! Out of curiosity, have you been to Dallas or Minnesota? Unbelievable. I have not. I bet they are both incredible. I'm partial to Arizona. I just moved back here in June from Kansas City and I hated that place. I took my daughters and ex wife to see the Bills play there and my kids were verbally assaulted by grown men while waiting in line to use the restroom and my ex was actually singled out by four men in Chefs gear they ran right into her knocking her down while swearing at them. I had to step out of line and get into a scuffle with them. A big reason I can't stand the Chefs or the dumb ass fans. But anyways that stadium his horrible and they actually replace the lyrics for the National Anthem to "home of the chiefs" very disrespectful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Yav...I’m referring only to the stadium itself. Not the fans or game day atmosphere. Too bad about your KC experience. We had the same in Oakland and would NEVER go back. I’m interested to see what it’ll be like in Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 attended at 8 NFL games, deep down i really like Buffalo best, no frills, elements in full effect, fanbase that loves this team even in the worst of times turf is the only real downer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 hours ago, uticaclub said: Seattle's pretty cool, where the fans are covered from the rain but the field is in the open. The fans aren’t covered. Only the upper levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Build something like Jerry's stadium. go big or stay home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Preferably, something with wooden bleachers and no seat backs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 33 minutes ago, iinii said: Let’s say the Bills are 4-8 going into December. You think the tickets are going to be that much more valuable if the game is blacked out? Times have changed, there are just too many other options now. As far as the Bills go, Pegs only loses pocket change. TV is the cash cow. 4-8, you are correct, does not matter. 7-6, with a winnbale game, yes i think it matters. Last year that was the Miami game..and I truly could not find anyone to take the tickets, let alone sell them. Several friends said gonna watch on the TV that prolly would have went otherwise.Maybe someone would have actually bought them @the $10 I had them listed for. Again , my point is more for the season ticket holder.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I have been to many NFL stadiums and although I like the outdoor elements, I think that a retractable roof dome is the most practical for Buffalo. I have attended many games at the Arizona stadium and it is a good model. Large and modern with plenty of amenities, but not crazy over the top. I have also seen the Indy stadium (only from the outside and on TV, never been to a game there) and it also seems to be the type of stadium that would work for Buffalo. I have been to a game in the new Dallas stadium and think it is way too big and way too over the top - and would be way too expensive for Buffalo. I actually prefer the AZ stadium to the Dallas one. Minnesota looks great on TV (have not been there), but I don't know if it is retractable and I don't know if the funding will be there for something on that scale in Buffalo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Unfortunately retractable dome is just too expensive, but would be perfect for Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarg12 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I would like to see a retractable roof, mainly because of times like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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