Irv Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 What about Shady for Nick Foles and a 4th in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 The Eagles would be the only team I think I would be ok trading him to. It's his home. Even playing here once his career is over no doubt he would do the "one day contract" and retire an Eagle. I think he would be happy going back, only downer for him is he missed that ring. The Eagles may also be prone to overpay a tad. First off this would be a welcome PR move bringing back one of the fans all time favorite players. I have to wonder,if after winning a Super Bowl last year they are concearned about these early losses they have had. This puts the focus somewhere else. Also with Sproles set to retire next season it lets them slide McCoy into,his spot should they sign Bell in the off season. Only way I make this move if I'm the GM is for a pick and a player. 3rd round or higher and maybe a skill position player. Don't think they give up Clement...but maybe Smallwood. Maybe some O line help instead. All in all...fun to speculate...but its not going to happen IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, liverpoolkev said: They can't build culture when you keep peterman and get rid of a playmaker. That shows the team that the best players or playmakers don't stay... The DB that played last week was better than most of the WR, backup QB, a couple lineman. The team is growing tired of his lip service It's time for you to keep quiet. Everyone who knows anything about football talks about how well McD has coached given a team with limited talent, and how he has a solid locker room. But you somehow think you know different based on information you claim is true that you have no way of knowing is valid. Do you hang out in the locker room? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Good point by tasker on radio ... wait until right before the deadline and decide. Play the MNF game, see where you are at, if the deal is good then maybe you pull the trigger if you are 2-6. By then Philly would have already turned to their Plan B or C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 The Super Bowl window is very small for any team not in New England. If the Eagles believe a guy like McCoy could get them back there, which they might regardless of its veracity, they will overpay, and maybe by a lot. That doesn’t mean they believe McCoy is the missing link but it’s possible. Nfl trades, for some reason, are very often not for what a player is really worth. It’s often for way more or way less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Good point by tasker on radio ... wait until right before the deadline and decide. Play the MNF game, see where you are at, if the deal is good then maybe you pull the trigger if you are 2-6. By that time I would expect the Eagles to move on to someone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Good point by tasker on radio ... wait until right before the deadline and decide. Play the MNF game, see where you are at, if the deal is good then maybe you pull the trigger if you are 2-6. This is fine, but on the flipside, the price may go down from the Eagles as the weeks tick away...esp if they really get into dire straights with wins and losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Good point by tasker on radio ... wait until right before the deadline and decide. Play the MNF game, see where you are at, if the deal is good then maybe you pull the trigger if you are 2-6. Our luck, McCoy will get hurt himself, and we'll get nothing. If you are going to move him, move him now. Too risky to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: By Dan Lavoie Oct 9, 2018-Buffalo Rumblings There’s also a salary implication to any trade discussion, though the impact is much lower than it would’ve been a year ago. Right now, the Bills owe McCoy just under $9 million for the season. If they trade him, it would accelerate an additional $2.625M of his signing bonus onto Buffalo’s 2018 salary cap as dead money. However, the team would save around $4 million from McCoy’s remaining 2018 salary, plus $6.425M in 2019, by not needing to pay McCoy’s salary anymore. The team to trade for McCoy would owe him those sums. Not bad. I would pull it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Good point by tasker on radio ... wait until right before the deadline and decide. Play the MNF game, see where you are at, if the deal is good then maybe you pull the trigger if you are 2-6. I never got past “Good point by Tasker...” 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cotton Fitzsimmons said: As in John Butler? Cue Edith Baines Bunker voice: Those were the days... you knew who the Bills were then. Every year the wins were more than 10! The offense sure could use a man like Reed or Lofton again! Didn’t have no botched field goal fakes... the offense always pulled it’s weight. And gee old Thurman ran great... THOSE WERE THE DAYYYS! Bless you YE OLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Logic said: I'm inclined to agree. If he was disgruntled or something, then so be it. But he's not. He's happy, healthy, and was voted team captain. If there is substance to the Texans' Watson injury being a punctured lung with Watson likely being held out of this weekend's game that is an emotional lift to the team and if we can be 3-3 this time next week then the morale only rises for the Bills. Wrong time for sure to tamper with the roster in terms of McCoy. If we could only convince the Eagles that they have a desperate need for Benjamin.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 We would basically be giving up on the season with this trade. I would do it for McCoy, he is not able to get quality touches in this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: If the Bills can get good compensation, it's a win for everyone involved. what do you consider good compensation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liverpoolkev Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, oldmanfan said: It's time for you to keep quiet. Everyone who knows anything about football talks about how well McD has coached given a team with limited talent, and how he has a solid locker room. But you somehow think you know different based on information you claim is true that you have no way of knowing is valid. Do you hang out in the locker room? No. I see you have me confused with your kids .....MCD caused the limited talent by shipping the playmakers out and their inability to judge talent ( Tolbert, KB, Ducasse, ZAY, and his love for washed up Carolina players. Just because you like to keep your head in the sand that's up to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Irv said: What about Shady for Nick Foles and a 4th in 2019. why would you want Foles? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: By then Philly would have already turned to their Plan B or C Maybe, but other teams could try to squeeze them until the 30th too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, billspro said: We would basically be giving up on the season with this trade. I would do it for McCoy, he is not able to get quality touches in this offense. Received plenty last Sunday and helped the team win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liverpoolkev Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, billspro said: We would basically be giving up on the season with this trade. I would do it for McCoy, he is not able to get quality touches in this offense. We Gave up his season when they hired this regime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I would say a 3rd and maybe a sweetner like an additional 5th in 2020. If we could get a second I would be thrilled but It would be hard to believe that we could get that for a 30 year old running back. If it were anything less than a 3rd, I don't think it would be worth it considering how poor we are on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, nucci said: what do you consider good compensation? We may all be thinking the haul is much more than being discussed. Getting a 4 that can condition to a 3 may be the absolute most. Even a 5 to a 4 may be a stretch. Honestly think a 3rd straight up is a pipe dream. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I can see both sides on this one. From purely a business plan perspective, it makes sense to trade him since we're really building for 2 years from now, when McCoy likely won't be here or be at his best anymore anyway. However...we're so strapped on weapons that it could make QB1's development even tougher. If the plan is to keep playing him the rest of this season and the return is going to be a 3rd round pick or lower, it might make sense to keep him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, billspro said: We would basically be giving up on the season with this trade. I would do it for McCoy, he is not able to get quality touches in this offense. Gave up on the season after that Bengals preseason game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, HansLanda said: We may all be thinking the haul is much more than being discussed. Getting a 4 that can condition to a 3 may be the absolute most. Even a 5 to a 4 may be a stretch. Honestly think a 3rd straight up is a pipe dream. agree which to me is not worth it. I prefer McCoy stay a Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I'd need to get my hands on an extra 2nd, with a pick going back their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Unless they blow the doors off on this deal with a few picks over the next 2 years I would say no. But then again Shady has been a good soldier so they should give him a chance to go out on a high note if that's what he wants. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, nucci said: agree which to me is not worth it. I prefer McCoy stay a Bill I don’t think it’s worth it to the Bills either. They don’t need the pick or the cap space and McCoy is valuable to developing Allen which is a priority 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, HansLanda said: We may all be thinking the haul is much more than being discussed. Getting a 4 that can condition to a 3 may be the absolute most. Even a 5 to a 4 may be a stretch. Honestly think a 3rd straight up is a pipe dream. Whats a 3rd round pick increasing your contender chances? They are already good enough to win a title. Adding Shady could make it worth it. Lets see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, billspro said: We would basically be giving up on the season with this trade. I would do it for McCoy, he is not able to get quality touches in this offense. It depends on what you mean by that. We're not going to win anything this season, we already know that. It's a development year. I think it all depends on how much they view McCoy as being a contributor to that development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 If Beane got a 3rd for Tyrod, we should expect a 2nd for Lesean, in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, Irv said: What about Shady for Nick Foles and a 4th in 2019. What would Foles do for the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I say only trade Mccoy for a 1st. He's way to valuable to this offense right now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just now, nucci said: agree which to me is not worth it. I prefer McCoy stay a Bill Not to mention the optics that would bring with it when they are ready to spend on free agents in the offseason. Agent: "Bills want to sign you." Player: "So I'll get paid, but they may just trade me in a year or two and I'll have to move my family again? Pass." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, nucci said: agree which to me is not worth it. I prefer McCoy stay a Bill ...exactly....captain and your offensive inspiration....trade him now=surrender................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Love the man, but trade him if we can get a 3rd or even a 4th. No brainer unless they think we can win this year..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ramza86 said: Gave up on the season after that Bengals preseason game. Ok Vontae 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, HansLanda said: Not to mention the optics that would bring with it when they are ready to spend on free agents in the offseason. Agent: "Bills want to sign you." Player: "So I'll get paid, but they may just trade me in a year or two and I'll have to move my family again? Pass." I don't think it would be that way with this one. McCoy has been treated very well in Buffalo and I think he would welcome a chance to get back to Philly and be on a team that is talented enough to win a Super Bowl. I would expect that he would have very kind words for the city and the organization on his way out the door if he was indeed heading back to Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Without Shady the Bills really have no product to put on the table this year. Ain’t happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Love the man, but trade him if we can get a 3rd or even a 4th. No brainer unless they think we can win this year..... 3 or 4 is not enough when you look at what he does provide right now for the overall team. I think it has to be a 2nd for us to even consider it and more than likely the eagles won't have a high pick to end the year, so you are looking mid round or later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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