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I’m also on the pie wagon, but with a caveat. I don’t like fruit fillings.  Apple and cherry pie need to get a hobby. I’ll do grape pie, but I had to be the ones the lady sells out of her house in Naples. 

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It’s sad, but this site has become silliness after silliness. This thread, like so many others, are a knee jerk reaction to the Bills not going to the Super Bowl this year. 

 

There is a plan. No one on this board knows it. It involves losing and winning, pain and happiness, etc.

 

If you can’t see what’s taking place, you are an observer and should, for the benefit of the many, not be starting threads on this site. 

 

Ugh. 

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Just now, TroutDog said:

It’s sad, but this site has become silliness after silliness. This thread, like so many others, are a knee jerk reaction to the Bills not going to the Super Bowl this year. 

 

There is a plan. No one on this board know it. It involves losing and winning, pain and happiness, etc.

 

If you can’t see what’s taking place, you are an observer and should, for the benefit of the many, not be starting threads on this site. 

 

Ugh. 

Lie. ;) The plan is not to lose. That is not part of the plan.

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49 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Pie.  Key lime best thing ever, followed by chocolate pecan bourbon and then of course there's apple.

Mere cake can not compete with the awesome wonders of pie.

 

I feel certain that linebacker leap took at least 5 years of McDermott's heart

How do you feel about Cheescake?

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29 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Cheesecake?  How do you make it?  Prepare a crust.  Prepare a filling.  Put filling in crust.  Don't be fooled by a name.  Cheesecake is a form of pie.  How is it served even?  Cut into wedges!  A pie by any other name....still pie!

 

There can be no argument.  Pie is simply better.  If you think otherwise, I don't know what you're eating!

 

Please keep the cheesecake posts in the Allen sucks threads, and the pie posts in the Benjamin sucks threads.

 

Thank you.

The Mods.

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41 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said:

Oh so I should have said his td int ratio is good and his comp percentage is stellar.

 

His numbers are bad and his play is a reflection. If you think otherwise then I don't know what you're watching.

 If I understand you correctly. And I think I do, you are saying that Josh Allen is a bust already! This is the reality of the situation with regard to your post: 

 

 Your post says nothing whatsoever about Josh Allen. Yes, it is absolutely way too early to make any such pronouncements such as his being a bust. And, by the way, when you’re saying the bills should draft a quarterback next year you’re actually calling him a bust. This is 100% ridiculous! Maybe it is my own scientific training but there is absolutely no adequate empirical evidence to make such a judgment at this point. 

 

All your post does is say a lot about you and your judgement and credibility.   Right now, your credibility is hanging by a thread just based on this post. 

 

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but this one is, quite frankly, is really bad!

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2 minutes ago, teef said:

You don’t have to, but you do have to respect me as a person. 

 

You see, this is what makes America great.  We don't have to agree on what should go or not go in pies, but at least we can respect the other person.

Too many times people who disagree about pie get in heated arguments....it's all over my Facebook feed.  It makes me sad that differing opinions causes hatred.

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On 10/7/2018 at 6:03 PM, Jpsredemption said:

With Allen looking as bad as he does, even though these two did absolutely nothing offensively to help his cause, McD and Beane must be in panic mode (Derek Anderson, really?). 

 

You’re very mistaken if you think that Derek Anderson is being brought is to replace Allen. 

 

And, no offense, but the rest of your post isn’t worth commenting on.  

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A lot of pies are actually custards. Lemon, key lime, pumpkin, even some cheesecakes. They contain a lot of egg yokes in the recipes.  Probably why they are so good. 

Even Boston cream pie can have a custard filling.

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TE's need to play a bigger role in this offense... Let this kid get dink & dunk down before the 50 yd. TD passes... Croom looks OK, but isn't really asked to do much in the passing game... At this point, it should be clear to everyone that Zay couldn't replace Woods on his best day.... Allen needs reliable options..... McBeanboll's ignorance of this fact is somewhat disturbing.

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5 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

 

Thats less than 20 a game.

 

20 would be 320

 

He only played 13 regular season games. 295/13 is just over 22.5.

 

It's not even close to rarely attempting more than 10 passes a game. 

 

I'm not really a fan of that comparison though considering Pittsburgh had talent all over that roster and we're talking about how football was played 15 years ago.

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2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Not if it has pineapple on it.

Damn! I love a good Hawaiian pizza....

1 hour ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

Drops. Watch his games.. highlights at lease. Just saying he's playing well.

So Rosen drops count, Allen’s drops don’t? I get ya???

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7 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Remember you can't have good pie without good culture.  Yeast cultures in the case of pie, but essential nonetheless.

So yeast is more important than the quality of the ingredients?  Or is it the combination of the ingredients with good rising yeast? 

 

Although yeast refers more to cakes so maybe I dont know what I'm talking about ?

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9 hours ago, teef said:

You don’t have to, but you do have to respect me as a person. 

 

Even though the OP wasn't posting about Josh Allen being a bust, do we still have to respect his opinion about pies?

 

What about cake? Surely, we must respect the OP's opinion about cake. What are we, Barbarians, here, people? Let the OP have a goddamn opinion about cake!

 

But not about pies!

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On 10/7/2018 at 7:03 PM, Jpsredemption said:

With Allen looking as bad as he does, even though these two did absolutely nothing offensively to help his cause, McD and Beane must be in panic mode (Derek Anderson, really?). 

 

Not only do you have to rebuild an entire offense but your prized QB is beyond terrible. Maybe if they would have listened to the overwhelming majority of pundits they wouldn't have traded all their draft capital for a guy with suspect accuracy and pocket awareness. Couple this with underachieving at Wyoming and I'm not really sure why he was ever a consideration in the first round to begin with. 

 

If its me..and trust me I know this will not happen.. I am very seriously considering a QB with my top 10 pick next year if there isn't any progression. I know everyone wants to give it time but how often is a QB utterly awful only to turn it around and become great these days (Goff seems to be the exception to the rule - not ready to anoint Trubisky). 

 

So I'd be kicking my self in the rear if I were these guys. I gave up (2) crucial 2nd round picks that could have been used to bolster my roster even further and probably could have done so and skill gotten Josh Rosen had I stayed put. 

 

So go ahead and tell me it's too early. Some of us know when things are going to end poorly (EJ Manuel). My advice to Beane and McD is think long and hard this offseason and don't be blinded by reality...you're jobs may depend on it. 

.Actually do your homework and see what the Wyoming story really is instead of hearing it second hand. And please don't claim you know anything about his college experience.  There were a lot of experts saying he would go in the top 10. So are you an expert now? Even Baker Mayfield said he figured it would come down to Allen or him as the number 1 pick. It amazes me how anyone with a smart phone can become an expert on everything and anything. Did you want to be an astronaut as a kid? Just curious.

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13 hours ago, Gray Beard said:

The great QBs are always studying formations on the side. Brady and Peyton immediately come to mind. They usually have an assistant helping to provide photos or screenshots of recent plays.  I often find it odd when I see a QB just sitting there.  Is he mentally putting himself in a good place, or is he just missing out on an opportunity to learn?  It seems like a QB coach or some other assistant should be going over things with him. 

 

By the way, when the OP starts with “With Allen looking as bad as he does...”  ...that’s not a diplomatic way to start an intelligent debate.  That’s a man on a mission.

When I saw Josh on the sidelines, it looked like he had a tablet going over something with someone because he had his headphones on and was talking back to someone. I imagine it was Daboll, and they were watching the last series or what they were going to do next to counter the defense. Just guessing on my part. But I agree, the more help the better.

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16 minutes ago, BB@Shooter said:

When I saw Josh on the sidelines, it looked like he had a tablet going over something with someone because he had his headphones on and was talking back to someone. I imagine it was Daboll, and they were watching the last series or what they were going to do next to counter the defense. Just guessing on my part. But I agree, the more help the better.

 

So question for you, esp if you were at the games: where is Peterman in all this?  And for that matter, where is QB coach Culley?   Everyone raves about how totes marvelous Peterman's personality is, but I don't think I've seen him coming up to Josh and offering tea and sympathy much less input.

 

It just seems as though it's Allen and his headphones and tablet.

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21 hours ago, BringBackOrton said:

Allen is statistically the worst QB in the NFL among active starters.

Allen statistically has the most wins of the rookie qb's. Tied, same thing. If you r trying to prove you are an Allen hater, Message received.  I just hope all that negativity doesn't eat at you and you can't enjoy the progression of Allen and the team. When it comes down to it Allen just wins . He has won at every level. It may not be the prettiest, but he wins. In his first full year at Wyoming he got them into the conference championship. Say whatever pops into your noggin, but he will end up proving you wrong. I love it.

13 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

So question for you, esp if you were at the games: where is Peterman in all this?  And for that matter, where is QB coach Culley?   Everyone raves about how totes marvelous Peterman's personality is, but I don't think I've seen him coming up to Josh and offering tea and sympathy much less input.

 

It just seems as though it's Allen and his headphones and tablet.

I agree with you Hapless, Allen sits by himself with his tablet. I didn't think about Peterman not being in the picture. Good catch.

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1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

So question for you, esp if you were at the games: where is Peterman in all this?  And for that matter, where is QB coach Culley?   Everyone raves about how totes marvelous Peterman's personality is, but I don't think I've seen him coming up to Josh and offering tea and sympathy much less input.

 

It just seems as though it's Allen and his headphones and tablet.

Keep him away from Peterman at all costs!!!

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