WR Rishard Matthews Done in Tennessee - Signed by the Jets

[The Wiz]

4 minutes ago, JPP said:

Come on guys kiss and make up!

I'm sure he would be willing to mend the relationship for a few mil.

3 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Btw- how is it a 6’ tall guy with a worse 40 than k-Benj is a coveted NFL WR? 

Because he can "apparently" catch the ball unlike our current WRs.

Edited September 27, 2018 by The Wiz

[BuffaloBillyG]

3 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said:

 You calling Rishard Matthews a "moderately nice thing" he isnt good.

He isn't? While he's certainly not an Antonio Brown/Julio Jones level guy he can certainly play the game. Or at least could last season. 

[Boca BIlls]

1 minute ago, No Place To Hyde said:

He isn't? While he's certainly not an Antonio Brown/Julio Jones level guy he can certainly play the game. Or at least could last season. 

He is basically a KELVIN Benjamin but without the height...

[BuffaloBillyG]

Matthews last 2 season's: 

118 catches 1740 yards 13 TDs

 

Alshon Jefferey last 2 season's:

109 catches 1610 yards 11 TDs

 

Mohammad Sanu last 2 season's:

126 catches 1353 yards 9 TDs

 

Kelvin Benjamin last 2 season's:

111 catches 1633 yards 10 TDs

 

Point is I'm pretty sure most here would gladly take a Sanu or Jeffery type WR. Both Benjamin and Matthews are in that ballpark. 

 

Benjamin is for whatever reason having issues with drops and motivation. Matthews wants to play. Though if rumor is believed he doesnt like Robiskie and this is a non issue anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 27, 2018 by No Place To Hyde

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

3 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Matthews last 2 season's: 

118 catches 1740 yards 13 TDs

 

Alshon Jefferey last 2 season's:

109 catches 1610 yards 11 TDs

 

Mohammad Sanu last 2 season's:

126 catches 1353 yards 9 TDs

 

Kelvin Benjamin last 2 season's:

111 catches 1633 yards 10 TDs

 

Point is I'm pretty sure most here would gladly take a Sanu or Jeffery type WR. Both Benjamin and Matthews are in that ballpark. 

 

Benjamin is for whatever reason having issues with drops and motivation. Matthews wants to play. Though if rumor is believed he doesnt like Robiskie and this is a non issue anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...maybe I missed the memo, but sure as hell don't see how his "whines 'n walkout" demonstrate that............

[BuffaloBillyG]

7 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

 

...maybe I missed the memo, but sure as hell don't see how his "whines 'n walkout" demonstrate that............

Well, the very idea that he was reportedly wanting out due to lack of play time is an excellent indicator imo.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

6 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Well, the very idea that he was reportedly wanting out due to lack of play time is an excellent indicator imo.

 

..indicator of what?.....over valuing his contribution versus coaches' judgment?.......perfect fit for "McD's process"?......just don't like his"modus operandi" in a TEAM game, but that's just me.....

 

[The Wiz]

10 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

..indicator of what?.....over valuing his contribution versus coaches' judgment?.......perfect fit for "McD's process"?......just don't like his"modus operandi" in a TEAM game, but that's just me.....

 

They brought in Coleman to see if he would work out.  I think they are flexible on the process.

[3rdand12]

19 hours ago, jr1 said:

if he quit there he'll quit here. He wants to be a stay at home dad

well there is nothing to do in Buffalo ! So we have that as leverage 

36 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

At some point you got to say "!@#$ the process" and sign some guys who can catch a football.

actually , i might think Benjamin does NOT fit the process. He filled a dire need at the time. was injured when hired.
and he is either very dim or does not care. Hard to tell for me. neither of those fit " The Process "

pretty sure they apply wiggle room in reviewing applicants who "fit"

 : )
if he can catch AND is healthy. ( did any one mention that part of the story ? )
ya gotta check him out

42 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

They brought in Coleman to see if he would work out.  I think they are flexible on the process.

Being a team player might be something that is found and not a given. and it is a business.
Titans feel he should be gone as well.

deep dive from Beanes scouts and contacts need doing though

 

but yes they do take risks. just very small ones.. ha ha

[SoTier]

7 hours ago, BillsMafia13 said:

I cant wrap my mind around why Buffalo is dragging its feet on OL and WR.  Its blatantly obvious our WRs are the worst in the league by a mile, our OL is swiss cheese.  If they cared so much about their qb investment why are they letting him get blitzkrieg'd and let down by garbage wrs.  Am i missing something?

 

I'm not sure that McDermott and Beane understand the very basic offensive concept that even the greatest QBs need protection and targets. If they don't believe that, then they should ask Tom Brady.   If they do, they don't act like they do because they seem to be totally disinterested in really doing anything about providing their QB with either ... and this goes all the way back to the FA period in March. 

 

4 hours ago, Rigotz said:

I would love to see this happen ... but it's not gonna happen for 2 reasons:

 

1) He can go to any SB contender he wants ... like the Eagles who desperately need a WR.

2) I doubt our coach wants a locker room type that quits when he doesnt get enough targets.

 

Maybe that's the real reason that the Bills have such sucky WRs: it's the nature of WRs to be primadonnas, and the better they are, the more likely they are to want opportunities to catch the ball.   Good WRs who are team-first guys are few and far between, although it's easier to convince them to be team first guys when they're on winning teams like the Chiefs, Eagles or Pats.

 

2 hours ago, Playoffs? said:

 

 

Serriously!

Because Robiskie is doing a phenomenal job right now...

 

Coaching can't compensate for lack of talent. 

[Solomon Grundy]

He'll end up in NE and revitalize Brady and their offense

[CEN-CAL17]

7 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

 

 

 

The Patriots? Seriously?!

 

In 2 weeks they are going to have one of the best WR corps out their.

 

Gronk, Edleman, Gordon, Hogan, Dorsett, Patterson.... yeah they need help.

 

 

Edited September 27, 2018 by 1ZAYDAY1

[The Wiz]

1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said:

ya gotta check him out

Being a team player might be something that is found and not a given. and it is a business.
Titans feel he should be gone as well.

deep dive from Beanes scouts and contacts need doing though

 

but yes they do take risks. just very small ones.. ha ha

They are paying Coleman 3.5m not to play for them.  That's at least a decent sized risk.

 

I don't care if Matthews is a team player as long as he catches passes thrown his way.

 

Let the market cool on him for a few days and see if you can get him in for a 1m, possibly more based performance, contract.

 

JMO.

Edited September 28, 2018 by The Wiz

[CLTbills]

Can he catch a football when thrown at him? If so, I’m in.

[BringBackOrton]

3 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Matthews last 2 season's: 

118 catches 1740 yards 13 TDs

 

Alshon Jefferey last 2 season's:

109 catches 1610 yards 11 TDs

 

Mohammad Sanu last 2 season's:

126 catches 1353 yards 9 TDs

 

Kelvin Benjamin last 2 season's:

111 catches 1633 yards 10 TDs

 

Point is I'm pretty sure most here would gladly take a Sanu or Jeffery type WR. Both Benjamin and Matthews are in that ballpark. 

 

Benjamin is for whatever reason having issues with drops and motivation. Matthews wants to play. Though if rumor is believed he doesnt like Robiskie and this is a non issue anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jeffrey hasn’t played as many games, wtf.

[3rdand12]

2 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

But he played for the Panthers. 

 

 

: )

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Trade Lawson and a 3rd to the Raiders for Cooper 

[3rdand12]

2 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

I'm not sure that McDermott and Beane understand the very basic offensive concept that even the greatest QBs need protection and targets. If they don't believe that, then they should ask Tom Brady.   If they do, they don't act like they do because they seem to be totally disinterested in really doing anything about providing their QB with either ... and this goes all the way back to the FA period in March. 

 

 

Maybe that's the real reason that the Bills have such sucky WRs: it's the nature of WRs to be primadonnas, and the better they are, the more likely they are to want opportunities to catch the ball.   Good WRs who are team-first guys are few and far between, although it's easier to convince them to be team first guys when they're on winning teams like the Chiefs, Eagles or Pats.

 

 

Coaching can't compensate for lack of talent. 

well maybe a little  :  )

Edited September 28, 2018 by 3rdand12

[BuffaloBillyG]

17 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said:

Jeffrey hasn’t played as many games, wtf.

I did not include any stats from this season. 2016 & 2017 stats used. He played 28 games. Matthews played 30. Same ball park.

[#34fan]

I've dug Matthews since his Nevada days with Kaepernick... Him and Virgil Green were my two faves.

[CaptnCoke11]

No chance he comes here 

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Trade Lawson and a 3rd to the Raiders for Cooper 

I floated the Amari Cooper scenario a few weeks ago after Mack got traded and they weren’t featuring cooper in the offense. Gruden is ripe. Beane needs to take advantage. I think a 3rd or 4th would do it. 

[Zac]

5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I floated the Amari Cooper scenario a few weeks ago after Mack got traded and they weren’t featuring cooper in the offense. Gruden is ripe. Beane needs to take advantage. I think a 3rd or 4th would do it. 

 

 

I floated this out there too.  If they lose another game there season is basically done.  He gets a huge raise next year too, I believe.  Just depends on if he is in their long term plans.

[YoloinOhio]

23 minutes ago, Zac said:

 

 

I floated this out there too.  If they lose another game there season is basically done.  He gets a huge raise next year too, I believe.  Just depends on if he is in their long term plans.

Cooper is a guy I could see the Bills interested in signing long term 

[NewEra]

4 hours ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said:

The Patriots? Seriously?!

 

In 2 weeks they are going to have one of the best WR corps out their.

 

Gronk, Edleman, Gordon, Hogan, Dorsett, Patterson.... yeah they need help.

 

 

Dorsett and Patterson are bums.  Hogan is JAG.  Gordon is an addict.  Edelman and Gronk are brittle.  They could also have the worst WRs in the league by the end of the year.

[Doc]

I also think that Brady is (finally!) in decline.  In the past he could make a receiving corps like this look fine.

[DJB]

No thanks to Cooper. Raiders fans hate him for a reason. We already have one WR with butter fingers no need for another. Plus the dude is buttery soft and doesn't battle. 

[FearLess Price]

Whats the update on this thread? Are we bringin in RMatt for a look at least? I would be pissed if we dont, even if he doesnt fit the scheme, Beane needs to wine and dine any respectable NFL WR with real NFL talent to get over here and help the rook.

[Doc]

7 hours ago, DJB said:

No thanks to Cooper. Raiders fans hate him for a reason. We already have one WR with butter fingers no need for another. Plus the dude is buttery soft and doesn't battle. 

 

Yeah, his drop rate is bad.  Plus he'll want Watkins money.

[Solomon Grundy]

9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Cooper is a guy I could see the Bills interested in signing long term 

He has as many drops as KB13, don't he?

[YoloinOhio]

11 minutes ago, the skycap said:

He has as many drops as KB13, don't he?

I don’t know how many drops he has, but he is a complete WR who can get separation and dominated games at times, and can be a true #1. Of course we need to draft one too. But the best WRs in the league without flaws are not getting traded or if they even get to FA, choosing to sign in Buffalo. There needs to some realism in how people look at the WR options. 

Edited September 28, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[Big Turk]

Report he signed with Bills? Is that accurate?

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

Report he signed with Bills? Is that accurate?

Not that I’ve seen. All I’ve seen is that he’s unlikely to sign with Bills due to poor relationship with WR coach Terry Robiskie 

[freddyjj]

8 hours ago, FearLess Price said:

Whats the update on this thread? Are we bringin in RMatt for a look at least? I would be pissed if we dont, even if he doesnt fit the scheme, Beane needs to wine and dine any respectable NFL WR with real NFL talent to get over here and help the rook.

 

3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Not that I’ve seen. All I’ve seen is that he’s unlikely to sign with Bills due to poor relationship with WR coach Terry Robiskie 

here's the article detailing the Zero Chance of signing him.   The title can be misread to indicate that he signed.

 http://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2018/09/zero_chance_former_titans_wr_rishard_matthews_signs_with_buffalo_bills_report.html

 

[Dougy84]

I think we'd be crazy to NOT take a flyer in Matthews. Or at least bring him in for a visit. Our WR corp is insanely bad. KB, who I loved when we acquired, doesn't seem to care and shows a lack of effort imo. Zay has been MIA. We cut Kerley. Foster hasn't shown much. Holmes can make a nice grab once in a while but isn't the most reliable. Ray Ray is a young rookie who hasn't had much of an opportunity to showcase/targets. Why NOT?!

[apuszczalowski]

13 hours ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said:

The Patriots? Seriously?!

 

In 2 weeks they are going to have one of the best WR corps out their.

 

Gronk, Edleman, Gordon, Hogan, Dorsett, Patterson.... yeah they need help.

 

 

They just dealt for Gordon who could be one slip up away from being done in the league, they signed Coleman who lasted a couple weeks in TC with the Bill's before being cut (so bad they gave up a pick for him and took additional dead cap when cutting him so quickly) and they are still looking at another Bill's cast off in Kerley now. The Pat's are rummaging through cast offs from the Bill's WR corps right now, why would they not be looking at someone who Bill's fans believe is an upgrade over their own guys?

[TheFunPolice]

I can't wait until Gordon runs the wrong route and Brady throws the ball right to a CB for a pick 6. Hopefully at a crucial time in the game.

 

NE's offense is all about crisp option routes and chemistry with Brady. That's why Edelman is open by 5 yards every play. The 2 have a psychic connection where Brady can throw the ball in 1.5 seconds and wherever Edelman ends up going the ball is waiting there.

 

Gronk is just a huge guy that you just toss it up to. Hogan is there to clean up when teams devote resources to those 2 guys.

 

Let's just hope that Gordon doesn't return to any kind of form or suddenly "get right" in NE.

Edited September 28, 2018 by TheFunPolice

[Simon Says]

16 hours ago, The Wiz said:

Quitting is what Davis did.  I can understand him feeling that his abilities would be better utilized in a different system.

He quit; whining because he thinks he should get the ball more  often;he just signed an extension a few weeks ago...he knows what the sytsem is...apparently he thinks they assume his injury is holding him back. he quit, i think his talent could help the Bills, but i dont think they approve of  this 

[YoloinOhio]

13 minutes ago, Pablocruise said:

He quit; whining because he thinks he should get the ball more  often;he just signed an extension a few weeks ago...he knows what the sytsem is...apparently he thinks they assume his injury is holding him back. he quit, i think his talent could help the Bills, but i dont think they approve of  this 

He did have the offseason knee injury. Where is he with that? Maybe it has affected his play.

[26CornerBlitz]

Robiskie rift or not, get this guy on the horn Mr. Beane.