billsfan5121 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 25 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I wonder if this signing impacts Mathhews' scheduled visit in Arizona. While it could impact the visit, I wonder if Arizona would just try for both. Why not? I feel like every team in the league places value on the wr position except us, at least for now. I get what they are doing and trying to get rid of bad contracts, etc. But to completely ignore that position is awful. And to think that there are options out there that could at least help. Nobody is building their wr group around Wright or Matthews, but they are pieces. Wouldn’t solve our issues, but it would certainly help it I think. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 28 minutes ago, billsfan5121 said: Wouldn’t solve our issues, but it would certainly help it I think. Rishard Matthews has reliable hands, something sorely missing in our group. I am still a bit shocked that KB is playing as bad as he is. In pre-season he looked like he could win contested catches and make plays on a regular basis. He's worse than a ghost. Targeting him is like a loss of down. I don't think Ray Ray is the next Stevie and Foster is not another Goodwin, but I think the Bills do. How Holmes is on the roster and Streater was put on the street is criminal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 46 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: Rishard Matthews has reliable hands, something sorely missing in our group. I am still a bit shocked that KB is playing as bad as he is. In pre-season he looked like he could win contested catches and make plays on a regular basis. He's worse than a ghost. Targeting him is like a loss of down. I don't think Ray Ray is the next Stevie and Foster is not another Goodwin, but I think the Bills do. How Holmes is on the roster and Streater was put on the street is criminal. Agreed....really wish we had not let Streater walk....the guy has speed as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 After watching KB lumber and loaf, how can we not kick the tires here? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billsfan89 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/8/2018 at 5:30 PM, Clyde Smith said: I posted in another thread that Miami have Devante Parker on the trading block. He definitely is a upgrade over most of our receivers. It would depend on what the Dolphins would want in return and what his 5th year option looks like (Miami picked up Parker's fifth year option.) If the Fins are looking to dump his contract for peanuts and his option isn't crazy than I wouldn't mind the Bills taking a chance. The WR free agent crop isn't crazy strong, Parker might be better than a lot of our free agent options. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike147 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/8/2018 at 10:30 PM, Clyde Smith said: I posted in another thread that Miami have Devante Parker on the trading block. He definitely is a upgrade over most of our receivers. The talents there, but a lot of Dolphins fans considered him injury prone and soft. He's never lived up to their draft expectations. So we'd be taking on a reclamation project which is fine if we get him cheap, but I wouldn't say he is deffinately an upgrade over what we've got unless he comes good on his potential and does something here that he didn't do in Miami. 3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: It would depend on what the Dolphins would want in return and what his 5th year option looks like (Miami picked up Parker's fifth year option.) If the Fins are looking to dump his contract for peanuts and his option isn't crazy than I wouldn't mind the Bills taking a chance. The WR free agent crop isn't crazy strong, Parker might be better than a lot of our free agent options. Roughly 9.4 million for his fifth year option. The talents there, but he's injury prone and doesn't seem to have the work ethic to be a top receiver. He looks and sounds like he's going to end up as one of those talented prospects that never lived up to their potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mike147 said: The talents there, but a lot of Dolphins fans considered him injury prone and soft. He's never lived up to their draft expectations. So we'd be taking on a reclamation project which is fine if we get him cheap, but I wouldn't say he is deffinately an upgrade over what we've got unless he comes good on his potential and does something here that he didn't do in Miami. Roughly 9.4 million for his fifth year option. The talents there, but he's injury prone and doesn't seem to have the work ethic to be a top receiver. He looks and sounds like he's going to end up as one of those talented prospects that never lived up to their potential. Injury prone or not. His stat line over the last three years is way better production than any receivers we currently have on this roster, except (Pre Buffalo) KB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Enunwa is out 3-4 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 We arguably have the least attractive WR destination. I wouldn’t hold my breath. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Everyone is signing Receivers, except for us. I just don’t get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Clyde Smith said: Everyone is signing Receivers, except for us. I just don’t get it. No injuries. The teams signing street FAs are replacing injured guys at the position. Edited October 16, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: No injuries Yeah but we have the #32 ranked offense. Help goes to defense but not for the offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Just now, Clyde Smith said: Yeah but we have the #32 ranked offense. Help goes to defense but not for the offense. Just telling it like it is, not how we want it to be. Agree or not, the team doesn’t think the available guys are going to be better than the ones they have, and add in a dose of the player has to be interested in signing with the Bills as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Clyde Smith said: Everyone is signing Receivers, except for us. I just don’t get it. If you were a WR.....would you choose us over any other team? If so, you’d need to have your head examined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, NewEra said: If you were a WR.....would you choose us over any other team? If so, you’d need to have your head examined. TO would turn us down this week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 19 minutes ago, NewEra said: If you were a WR.....would you choose us over any other team? If so, you’d need to have your head examined. Depends on the teams that are available. At least we have a top 5 defense here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Clyde Smith said: Depends on the teams that are available. At least we have a top 5 defense here. WR most often sign with other teams for a few different reasons: to win, for money, to put up numbers for future contracts with this team or another one, and playing time. All we can offer them is playing time and almost no chance to put up numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 6:00 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: I wonder if the Browns are second-guessing their decision to get out the cutting shears for Gordon after watching this week's NE game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 29 minutes ago, Clyde Smith said: Depends on the teams that are available. At least we have a top 5 defense here. Defense doesn’t help a WR unless it helped them win a super bowl. Not the case here. It’s pretty much the opposite. Teams with bad defenses throw much more because they have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I wonder if the Browns are second-guessing their decision to get out the cutting shears for Gordon after watching this week's NE game. Could be from a talent perspective, but the patience had worn thin after so many years waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I wonder if the Browns are second-guessing their decision to get out the cutting shears for Gordon after watching this week's NE game. I think it’s mostly that they are down to 4 healthy WRs, one of which is breshard perriman who will practice for the first time tomorrow. landry has had to play on the outside where he’s not as effective as in the slot. Calloway has been drop city, too. Edited October 16, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Defense doesn’t help a WR unless it helped them win a super bowl. Not the case here. It’s pretty much the opposite. Teams with bad defenses throw much more because they have to. With a strong defense, you have a better chance of getting to the post season. The player comes here, learn the playbook and ball out. He becomes the man and have a better chance of making the playoffs. For all we know, we might be a player away from making some serious noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 9/26/2018 at 9:17 PM, FluffHead said: But does he trust the process? As long he is not a fluff head and does not just cite it he will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I wonder if the Browns are second-guessing their decision to get out the cutting shears for Gordon after watching this week's NE game. Gordon hasn't light it up for the Pats just yet, don't get me wrong he has been solid the past two weeks but he has yet to go out and be a major factor in the game. If Gordon is anywhere close to what he was at his best for that Pats team then look out because they are going to be super scary. Gordon at a high level is a legit number 1 receiver, Gronk is the second best tight end in the game, Edleman is a legit slot receiver, White out of the backfield is a very good pass catching back, Michel is looking very good as an early down back between the tackles, while Hogan and Paterson are nice complementary players. Now if Gordon gets hurt/suspended or just never becomes close to what he was then the offense comes down to Earth a bit as they don't have that one commanding reviving threat but they still probably are a top offense in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Clyde Smith said: With a strong defense, you have a better chance of getting to the post season. The player comes here, learn the playbook and ball out. He becomes the man and have a better chance of making the playoffs. For all we know, we might be a player away from making some serious noise. For all we know.....:sure. But if your HIM. You aren’t looking at it like that. You look at our offense and how putrid it is. The likelihood of being able to improve your stock over the rest of the year in Buffalo isn’t very high. We’re the WR graveyard. Everyone knows this. He ain’t coming here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 I'm guessing that since he hasn't signed yet, no team really wants him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, Doc said: I'm guessing that since he hasn't signed yet, no team really wants him. He just had a workout with the NYJ today. We'll see whether he signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He just had a workout with the NYJ today. We'll see whether he signs. Yup, saw that. He's been on the market for 3 weeks now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Solomon Grundy Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Why the Bills won't take a flyer on him is beyond my comprehension even though he had a spat with receiver coach. Bring him in to talk and maybe bury the hatchet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 Just now, the skycap said: Why the Bills won't take a flyer on him is beyond my comprehension even though he had a spat with receiver coach. Bring him in to talk and maybe bury the hatchet. They should, but looks like it's not a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 There's definitely something behind the scenes with Matthews. Falling out with his OC last year Falling out with his OC this year Team grants his release (and it costs them a W) Remains unsigned, despite deep WR need by many teams (the guy who replaced him and dropped the TD was signed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 9:58 AM, Kelly the Dog said: WR most often sign with other teams for a few different reasons: to win, for money, to put up numbers for future contracts with this team or another one, and playing time. All we can offer them is playing time and almost no chance to put up numbers. Or money after this season - money is a pretty fantastic motivator as far as the history of signing WRs goes. But yea, we're not exactly a prime destination at the moment for any player looking to win now - anyone who would sign would need to understand and be hopeful for this rebuild. There are solid WRs out there who would go for this with the right price, but better to build this corps through the draft with FA help if needed. Same with the OL if we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) Wonder if that means Pryor is not going back to the Big Apple? Also might explain why they cut him to begin with. Also, It just seems like WR is a overall diminishing position in the NFL. Probably the air raid college systems that are producing unrefined talent. Edited October 23, 2018 by whatdrought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 Jets Signing ex-Titans Receiver Rishard Matthews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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