Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) Trade for Gordon Sign Dez Bryant to a one year deal Trade for Le'Veon Bell and Sign him to a 3-4 year deal at the money he wants. It will expire before Allen needs a new deal if he ends up being legit. You are still left with plenty of money next off-season and you won't have to give up too much in picks. Edited September 16, 2018 by K-GunJimKelly12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Gordon is about to be let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just now, Boca BIlls said: Gordon is about to be let go. Give up a 7th to make sure you get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just now, K-GunJimKelly12 said: Give up a 7th to make sure you get him. No thanks b.c he did something wrong again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just now, K-GunJimKelly12 said: Trade for Gordon Sign Dez Bryant to a one year deal Trade for Le'Veon Bell and Sign him to a 3-4 year deal at the money he wants. It will expire before Allen needs a new deal if he ends up being legit. You are still left with plenty of money next off-season and you won't have too give up that much in picks. Bills fans don't like talent like that. They would rather have a hard working blue collar team like in the Rockpile days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Bills fans don't like talent like that. They would rather have a hard working blue collar team like in the Rockpile days. Speak for yourself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Gordon is about to be let go. No he isnt. He will be traded by Monday 6 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: No thanks b.c he did something wrong again. No he didnt. He showed up late and wasnt himself according to reports whatever that means because he got treatment for a Hammy and Practiced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Bills fans don't like talent like that. They would rather have a hard working blue collar team like in the Rockpile days. I watched them win two championships there with a hard working blue collar team. I'd be happy to see that again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Bills fans don't like talent like that. They would rather have a hard working blue collar team like in the Rockpile days. They like talent.........they are just irked about the money they are being paid and take it out on the player instead of the people who paid them. For instance.......why would anyone be mad at Star Lotulelei for not being able to draw and hold up double teams?.........he's been struggling for the past two years.......expecting him to play better because he got paid to when he couldn't do it when he had the free agency motivation in 2017 is kinda' nonsensical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: I watched them win two championships there with a hard working blue collar team. I'd be happy to see that again Yeah the love for 1960s style football is strong in this fanbase 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Yeah the love for 1960s style football is strong in this fanbase You wouldn't want to see them win a championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just now, oldmanfan said: You wouldn't want to see them win a championship? Not gonna win one with 1960s football 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 You can’t sign Le’Veon (hence he won’t be traded). He can only play under the tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Not gonna win one with 1960s football You should have seen that defense. And I'd take Duby right now over Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just now, oldmanfan said: You wouldn't want to see them win a championship? Fans do but its not 1960 anymore. Its hard to win playing conservative offense. Teams don't try win to running the ball like the Rockpile teams did with O.J. Why are the Bills always behind in how offense's are run in this league? Don't fans want to see high powered offense that throws the ball all around the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: Give up a 7th to make sure you get him. !@#$ no. Dude isnt interested in playing football. He is interested in getting high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Not process worthy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Fans do but its not 1960 anymore. Its hard to win playing conservative offense. Teams don't try win to running the ball like the Rockpile teams did with O.J. Why are the Bills always behind in how offense's are run in this league? Don't fans want to see high powered offense that throws the ball all around the field? You know the last time the Bills where innovative and ahead of the time on offense they went to 4 str8 superbowls. Maybe they should freaking try that again and be innovative and ahead of the times on Offense Edited September 16, 2018 by MAJBobby 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Fans do but its not 1960 anymore. Its hard to win playing conservative offense. Teams don't try win to running the ball like the Rockpile teams did with O.J. Why are the Bills always behind in how offense's are run in this league? Don't fans want to see high powered offense that throws the ball all around the field? Fans want to see wins. Of course they won't play the way they did then now. But if you talk about getting ahead of the curve, what if they actually were that team that rediscovered smash mouth football? Get some big guys up front, another Cookie, and jam the ball down people's throats? And when defenses get sucked in Allen does his Kemp imitation and chucks it downfield? i'd go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 They are not in the business of adding talent here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Fans want to see wins. Of course they won't play the way they did then now. But if you talk about getting ahead of the curve, what if they actually were that team that rediscovered smash mouth football? Get some big guys up front, another Cookie, and jam the ball down people's throats? And when defenses get sucked in Allen does his Kemp imitation and chucks it downfield? i'd go for it. So you want to innovate by going to 1960s football. And People wonder why we say there is an obsession here with out of date football and out of date coaching staffs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Fans want to see wins. Of course they won't play the way they did then now. But if you talk about getting ahead of the curve, what if they actually were that team that rediscovered smash mouth football? Get some big guys up front, another Cookie, and jam the ball down people's throats? And when defenses get sucked in Allen does his Kemp imitation and chucks it downfield? i'd go for it. Its wishful thinking for fans of 1960's football. The way the rules are setup it has made it a passing league and don't think it will evee go back to smash mouth football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just now, Jrb1979 said: Its wishful thinking for fans of 1960's football. The way the rules are setup it has made it a passing league and don't think it will evee go back to smash mouth football. I have such fond memories of those times. 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: So you want to innovate by going to 1960s football. And People wonder why we say there is an obsession here with out of date football and out of date coaching staffs It is obviously a little tongue in cheek. You really need to get over yourself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Give Allen his protection! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Give Allen his protection! It always starts up front in the trenches—no hogs that can play = no sustainable success over the course of a season. When the Bills were actually good they also had all-pros up front. If Jerry Rice were out there last week I doubt there would’ve been enough time in letting a play develop, to feed him more than once or twice, at least that’s how it seemed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Weapons? An AK 47 might help.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Not happening, not worth it, we are going to suffer this year and will get them next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 2 hours ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: Trade for Gordon Sign Dez Bryant to a one year deal Trade for Le'Veon Bell and Sign him to a 3-4 year deal at the money he wants. It will expire before Allen needs a new deal if he ends up being legit. You are still left with plenty of money next off-season and you won't have to give up too much in picks. Dez Bryant? The guy who still doesn't have a job in the NFL and who got cut from a team desperate for a WR? That guy is trash even for 1 season. So you don't think the Bills would have to give up many picks for possibly the best RB in the game? it would most likely take multiple picks and then you'd have to sign him to the richest RB contract ever since his agent stated he's a RB and a WR, he's also 27 years old soon and coming off 2 major knee surgeries. Both those players are a waste here imo. I mean Bell would be awesome until after year 3 when he is a broken down old shell of himself who can barely run, we have a solid RB in McCoy and a guy who looks like he may be able to take over if given a chance in Murphy. Then we'd be doing this dead cap thing all over again with Bell and having to pay Allen/ Edmunds all at the same time I don't see it working. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Wrong approach. Trade for a C/G that can start. QB makes the WR not the other way around. Put Zay in the slot. Split Clay and McCoy out wide. Give Allen protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Give Allen his protection! Agreed. Save his life, first. Let him actually learn the game so he doesnt become Trentative. And finally, find out asap whether he is worth anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 They tried to get Anquan Bolden then he retired... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Not happening, not worth it, we are going to suffer this year and will get them next year. Not sure what exactly you meant by get them next year but you're not getting weapons. They rarely become available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, White Linen said: Not sure what exactly you meant by get them next year but you're not getting weapons. They rarely become available. The draft, and we have all that cap space, I'm sure there is someone we can buy , like we did Mario Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Why anyone would want Josh Gordon at this point is beyond me. He is totally unreliable and simply a distraction at this point. He is a player of great talent who simply isn't interested in doing the things necessary to be sucessful. Sad - but end of story. Dez seems to have his own agenda. Don't think he has any real interest in coming here even if the Bills were interested. At this point in the season alot of teams are having trouble fielding a competent offensive line. Tennessee and Carolina immediately come to mind and I could easily list at least 4 to 5 more teams with banged up O-Lines. The Bills are going to have to suffer through this season but then will have the draft picks and cap dollars to remake this team for 2019 and beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayjent Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Fans want to see wins. Of course they won't play the way they did then now. But if you talk about getting ahead of the curve, what if they actually were that team that rediscovered smash mouth football? Get some big guys up front, another Cookie, and jam the ball down people's throats? And when defenses get sucked in Allen does his Kemp imitation and chucks it downfield? i'd go for it. The rules don’t favor running teams - the likelihood of getting called for penalties on running plays is higher for the offense. The rules favor passing a lot - there are so many penalties that can result in automatic first downs when passing that’s why the best offensive teams are usually pass heavy - illegal contact, defensive holding, pass interference, roughing the passer, defenseless receiver, etc. It’s why the draw play on third and long is one of the dumbest play calls in pro football. Even a team that can run the ball like the Steelers get pass happy, because they know it’s to their advantage. The Bills can’t do either because the O line is a hot steaming pile - bad coaching and not enough talent. That’s on the process for having two drafts and two FA periods to address the line better (Incognito and Wood were at the end of their careers either way) - they basically treaded water at LT if I’m being kind and did very little to address the other positions that were below average or lost starters. You don’t get better on the line by having only two good tackles and trading away one of them, and going with bottom of the barrel FAs and late round picks to address the rest of your way below average OL. Edited September 16, 2018 by Ayjent 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 8 hours ago, MAJBobby said: So you want to innovate by going to 1960s football. And People wonder why we say there is an obsession here with out of date football and out of date coaching staffs No one here has an obsession with 1960s football, Bobby. This is all in your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 There is a reason why no team in the NFL wants these players, this isn't Madden, players are a lot more than their ratings. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, joesixpack said: No one here has an obsession with 1960s football, Bobby. This is all in your head. That's not true at all. A lot of the older fans that are from the Rockpile days would love a team that runs the ball a lot and plays hard defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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