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SECOND HALF THREAD: Cincinnati at Buffalo- Preseason Game #3 4pm ET


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Just now, Kmart128 said:

 

I disagree his arm is fine... It's better than a lot of QBs in NFL. Heck it's better than Andy Dalton's arm... It's no Josh Allen arm but Nate arm is adequate.

 

he doesn't have the zip to complete a standard out without it being a 50-50 pick six.

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Areas of major concern:

O-line-- this is seriously scary right now. Losing Wood and Richie hurts an already poor line. I'm not sure if this problem is fixable.

Pass Rush-  it's been a long time since we had a consistent rush. With such bad line-backing play I don't see exotic blitz packages coming.  Can Murphy add anything. Does Kyle have another big season left. If not, this may not be fixable either.  Star is a no-show for big bucks so far.  Maybe Dirty Harry helps. 

 

LB's and 2nd CB. We are getting burned on crossing routes consistently and often.  Good QB's will pick us apart. It's hard to watch receivers crossing the middle so wide open then running for another 10-15 yds. 
 


 

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Just now, Fred Clause said:

Peterman couldn’t escape from the 3rd string pass rush yet Magnatard thinks it was Allen’s fault he got sacked by the first string. Quality analysis from a loser...

I never said Peterman was any good... The Bills have a very tough schedule and no franchise QB, yep, high draft pick in 2019.

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Just now, Formerly Allan in MD said:

Turn it off.

 

I’m not capable of that.... It’s a Bills game. I watch, and pray. I’m not one of those negative folks, but Lordy this has not been pretty. I love the look of the future. 

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4 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:

Sacked 5 times, you don't do that to a project QB. Peterman can be an NFL coach after his career if he wants, he has a weak arm but extremely smart and a fast release.

Well they did. They wanted to see Allen sling it and the line didn’t hold up. Until the OL gets figured out I don’t think they’d risk injury by calling those plays in a regular season game. It’s clear the OL wasn’t what they hoped. Reg season is a quick passing game to start. NP might be the option there. If Allen gets injured early, the year is likely a wash for him. Better to let him play the second half of the season a la Goff. 

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Just now, RocCityRoller said:

 

he doesn't have the zip to complete a standard out without it being a 50-50 pick six.

 

He does, it’s just needs to be on time and placed right. He has less room for error that’s not the same as he can’t make the throw.

 

He does struggle with the throw, that’s obvious though. I wince when I see him make it.

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4 minutes ago, The Final Word said:

Not correct. Peterman has a nfl arm. Is it a cannon like Allen, of course not but he can make all the throws

He may have an NFL arm.  He may be the starter, which I am fine with.

 

But he cannot make "all the throws". There is one throw in particular he can't make and I am not sure why they allow him to try.  It's a pick six waiting to happen. 

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2 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:

 

Clay hasn’t looked good.

 

Clay has sucked.

 

Remember his non efforts last week against Cleveland? Didn’t even attempt to block on a couple plays.

 

The Bills have some young talent at TE. I’d say goodbye to Clay.

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6 minutes ago, Magnetar said:

As a life long Bills fan it is my right to do what I want with this mess. Don't tell me what to do tbh. If you want to be eternally optimistic, go right ahead, because that has worked such wonders the last couple decades...

 

Worked well enough last season...

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1 minute ago, Real McCoy said:

It's up to you to not call a rookie QB a bust after the 3 friggin preseason games. 

 

It makes you look like a jackass 

I can predict whatever the hell I want, just like many other NFL fans and pundits.

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12 minutes ago, Trogdor said:

I think Peterman is the one for quick short throws. Allen is still trying to get the feel of it. You can tell that he is still trying to workout something between fastball and a floater.

Only problem is it seems like Peterman makes up his mind before the snap and won't not throw a pick, regardless. 

 

I hope I am wrong 

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37 minutes ago, thurst44 said:

You know, I'll wait for someone like Cover1's analysis. I hated the Allen pick, but he's done a lot of hopeful things since he got here and calling him out for a first half when he was on the run on almost every play is a bit over the top. Frankly, he looked about as good as he possibly could. Maybe Tyrod would have run away from them. I loved Tyrod, but he had some truly moribund outings last year.

 

My main concern is the line and hopefully they can do some things to adjust that. 

I'm team Allen. I'm dogging on him because he had the chance to give the coaches every reason to start him week 1. They're looking for a Quarterback that can handle a starting defense with the putrid around them.. and he could have made a statement. Just a few extra good plays. I'm frustrated he didn't maximize himself and we seem to be back in a QB crapshoot.

 

I almost literally never saw the backfield from the broadcast angle so a detailed all 22 would be great. I literally just saw Allen drop back and either get sacked way too quicky or just Pat patting the ball with a collapsing pocket until.. I think a blocker got pancaked into him for a sack.. Jesus. So I don't know if he saw crap receivers getting no separation from NFL secondaries, or if he's not seeing it.

 

I know I'm asking him to be Russel Wilson Big Ben right now.. cause that would have made his case amazing handling adversity.

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Its a preseason game but in SB years starting  Oline controlled line so did D line for two series score was 14-0 or 14-3 then subs came in and that was that.  The O and D line starters looked horrible.  Peterson makes quick decisions and less likely to get hurt. JA gonna have some growing pains with the speed of the game and is gonna need to watch a few before he should start.  Oline gonna need to get better before you put JA in there.

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2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

He may have an NFL arm.  He may be the starter, which I am fine with.

 

But he cannot make "all the throws". There is one throw in particular he can't make and I am not sure why they allow him to try.  It's a pick six waiting to happen. 

Trust me, he will be fine

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2 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

 

he doesn't have the zip to complete a standard out without it being a 50-50 pick six.

That's because he hasn't been looking off defenders. They are jumping routes very easily. You can have the best arm in NFL and if defender gets a good jump and knows it's coming then it could potentially be picked. I said earlier in thread that I think Nate needs to pump fake those throws and have receiver go deep. Will get that on film and defenders won't jump this throws as often.

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1 minute ago, Augie said:

 

I’m not capable of that.... It’s a Bills game. I watch, and pray. I’m not one of those negative folks, but Lordy this has not been pretty. I love the look of the future. 

Yeah, I'm pretty much endlessly optimistic, but other than I'm not as down on Allen or Clay as others, there's not much good to take away from this game. Running game looked good. Tremaine Edmunds looked like he made some progress in his reads. Levi Wallace had a few great special teams plays. Barring something miraculous, it's hard to see a good start. However, until the games mean something, who really knows?

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