JoeF Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, PastaJoe said: @thadbrown7 Just perusing Corey Coleman NFL stats... big red flag is catches per targets. He's made 56 receptions on 131 targets. That's 43%. Only two guys of top 80 last year in NFL receiving yards were below 50%. One was Dez Bryant. Maybe it's the injuries. DeShone Kiser, Cody Kessler, RGIII, Kevin Hogan and Josh McCown (three games) That couldn't have anything to do with it right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He also had some trouble with the Cleveland po po last year... mcbeane really going out of their comfort zone, keep him away from zay I think that speaks to the depth of their concern about the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Thad Brown reminds me of that SNL sketch with Debbie Downer. Dude always focuses on the negative side of things. Must be great at parties 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Perfect. Former 1st rounder with 4.12 speed and cost a late round pick. No downside at all to this move. And still cost controlled this year and next year (before needing 5th year option) I read more like just under 4.4. Since the league record on 40 time used to be Chris Johnson around 4.24 I highly doubt this guy ran a 4.12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Coleman is instantly the fastest receiver on the Bills' roster. His scouting report says he has unreal acceleration off the LOS. His career has been thus far derailed by twice breaking the same hand. Cleveland is very deep at WR, so they could afford to unload Coleman. Bray (the guy who got cut to make room for Coleman) was never going to make this team. It is a nice trade and gives this receiving group a nice upgrade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 He ran a 4.37 40. Good trade. If he is healthy we have a deep threat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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C.Biscuit97 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, brianthomas said: Thad Brown reminds me of that SNL sketch with Debbie Downer. Dude always focuses on the negative side of things. Must be great at parties I mean it shows why the Browns might not want the guy. So it’s definitely revelant. But it seems like a low risk, high reward type of move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Tyrod's friend said: I read more like just under 4.4. Since the league record on 40 time used to be Chris Johnson around 4.24 I highly doubt this guy ran a 4.12. i just looked it up it was Christian Coleman who ran a 4.12 Edited August 6, 2018 by brianthomas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MAJBobby Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Tyrod's friend said: I read more like just under 4.4. Since the league record on 40 time used to be Chris Johnson around 4.24 I highly doubt this guy ran a 4.12. Yeah i fixed it 4.37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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C.Biscuit97 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I think TR is a good coach but come on with “developing” Julio. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MAJBobby Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Strengths Instant blur off the snap. Feet turn over at a blinding pace and he devours cushion before cornerbacks know what hit them. Able to get over the top of every corner he faced and demands safety help over the top. Works back to the ball. Explosive leaper with ability to climb ladder and win the 50/50 ball and body control to secure the acrobatic catch. Touchdown maker finishing 2015 with 20 receiving touchdowns. Smooth, speedy stems to the post will be difficult to mirror and match for NFL cornerbacks. Easy route adjustments in space. Defenders who try to jam and miss pay the iron price (touchdowns). Able to make tacklers miss in tight spaces. Has experience as ball carrier and punt returner. Heavily targeted (39 percent) in Baylor's high-flying attack. Weaknesses Does his best work from outside the numbers, but lacks desired NFL size to play outside. Allows cornerbacks to leverage him against the sideline on deep throws. Takes longer than expected to gear down for comeback routes after hitting top speed. Ran limited number of simple routes. Hands are a concern. Fails to catch away from his body. Dropped 10 passes for a drop rate of 11.9 percent. Loses focus and concentration on routes that work towards the middle of the field or when he senses defenders are closing in. Had sports hernia surgery that forced him to miss his bowl game. Draft Projection Rounds 1 or 2 Sources Tell Us "He's my top receiver. Now this is for what we do so he's going to be tops for me. He can do a lot of things and I'm not worried about those simple routes because he's got some gifts to work with. Like him a lot more than (Laquon) Treadwell or the Notre Dame guy (Will Fuller)" -- AFC wide receivers coach NFL Comparison John Brown Bottom Line Dangerous vertical talent with the ability to get over the top of defenders who fail to recognize his blazing quickness off the line of scrimmage. Coleman can get instant separation to create favorable passing windows and is one of the top playmakers in this draft. Coleman's issues with drops near the middle of the field could be a concern if teams see him next as a slot receiver due to his lack of size. Regardless, he can line up outside and win and he offers immediate punt return help. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That means nothing with who the merry go round of QBs who tried getting him the ball the last couple seasons. Daboll will find ways to maximize his talents. My Bills top 6 looks pretty decent. KB Coleman Kerley Jones Holmes Rielly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: There is your Deep threat. I called for this awhile ago. Hope the change of scenery lights his career up. No, only I called it. lol ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's friend Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, brianthomas said: i just looked it up it was Christian Coleman who ran a 4.12 John Ross has the fastest NFL time at 4.22, just beat CJ. I think what is relevant here is that speed doesn't mean jack. Other than CJ, none of those guys are really impressive NFL players.http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000917865 Edited August 6, 2018 by Tyrod's friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 It appears 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaloBillsGospel Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Well we now have our Speed WR at a cheap price and signed for 2 seasons with a 5th year option? He didn't do much with kessler at QB and then got injured last season with RG3/Kiser last season, here he'll be a solid WR 2 or slot WR, however they decide to use him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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whatdrought Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Honesty, that's not horrible. If his hand is right he could be okay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Maybe he can rebound for us like a Goodwin did with SF. Goodwin was good for them even before Jimmy G, so it wasn’t just the QB change. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Josh MIA Gordon and Antonio Callaway ... gulp. It’s Jarvis and the Maybes out there. Rashard Higgins has been outplaying Coleman all camp, and Callaway has looked good so far. Landry has been crazy good, and they seem to think Gordon will be back in plenty of time for the season. Coleman has talent, but injuries and laziness have hampered him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Glass Goodwin 2.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, brianthomas said: i just looked it up it was Christian Coleman who ran a 4.12 Christian is the next great American sprinter. Google his 4.12 40, it doesn't look right. He's like a cyborg. His acceleration is the best I've ever seen (I'm a track guy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Honesty, that's not horrible. If his hand is right he could be okay. Edited August 6, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I like the move assuming we didn't overpay. We had Benjamin as the only starter caliber receiver and Kerley who was better suited as a 3 or 4. After that, there was too many ifs and and buts at the position. Hopefully Coleman can realize his potential here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, cle23 said: Rashard Higgins has been outplaying Coleman all camp, and Callaway has looked good so far. Landry has been crazy good, and they seem to think Gordon will be back in plenty of time for the season. Coleman has talent, but injuries and laziness have hampered him Like I said, Jarvis and the Maybes. We have no idea how guys like Higgins and Callaway will do when the games are played, and relying on anything from Gordon by now is as foolish as it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 It’s obviously too early to have an informed opinion, but I like the feel of this move by our FO. It seems worth a shot, and the price was probably reasonable given his potential upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Wonder if we'll see him this week? Also, wonder what # he will wear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Beane!!! Have I said how much of a breath of fresh air he is? I mean finally the Whaley Funk is almost all gone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, Tyrod's friend said: John Ross has the fastest NFL time at 4.22, just beat CJ. I think what is relevant here is that speed doesn't mean jack. Other than CJ, none of those guys are really impressive NFL players.http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000917865 Yep Ross has the combine record. I just posted the Christian Coleman time because that other poster u questioned confused the two. I probably should've quoted both of you. But yeah speed only goes so far. But for our squad its surely needed. 1st Skinner with the Sabres & now this with Coleman... its been a cool August so far lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: Wonder if we'll see him this week? Also, wonder what # he will wear? Bray was 19, Coleman is 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Just now, whatdrought said: Wonder if we'll see him this week? Also, wonder what # he will wear? Probably not until game 2 but you never know. CC was #19 and conveniently so was Quan Bray who they just cut to make room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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C.Biscuit97 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Bill_with_it said: Beane!!! Have I said how much of a breath of fresh air he is? I mean finally the Whaley Funk is almost all gone. Whaley traded for Jerry Hughes and LeSean McCoy. Why does everyone always have to put someone Dow to praise someone? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, Juice_32 said: Christian is the next great American sprinter. Google his 4.12 40, it doesn't look right. He's like a cyborg. His acceleration is the best I've ever seen (I'm a track guy). Wow yeah i just watched it. The guy is like a machine. His running motion reminds me of one of those advanced robots that DARPA designs. If he was running towards me like that, i'd be terrified lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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