Do you find the "Saints" name/logo offensive?

[Paulus]

Drink moar!!!

[BringBackFergy]

4 hours ago, Your Brown Eye said:

 

His point is your thread sucks

You mad bro?

[MJS]

Nver in a million years would I have considered the Saints name/logo offensive.

 

And resembles a weapon? I don't get that. It's a flower.

Edited July 24, 2018 by MJS

[BringBackFergy]

3 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said:

We get it! You think this is your playground. And you’re sick of 4chan or reddit or wherever you came from. I’ll mark you down as a troll and move along.

Wish I knew what you're referring to. Funny how some threads elicit a defensive response from posters. I’m not singling you out, so don’t take offense, but those who cast the stone of “troll” are typically trolls themselves. The point remains (referenced by @DC Tom and others), the Saints logo can be offensive and, if so, should probably be changed to something less controversial. 

[MJS]

2 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Wish I knew what you're referring to. Funny how some threads elicit a defensive response from posters. I’m not singling you out, so don’t take offense, but those who cast the stone of “troll” are typically trolls themselves. The point remains (referenced by @DC Tom and others), the Saints logo can be offensive and, if so, should probably be changed to something less controversial. 

 

I'm offended by all the offense. How can we deal with that?

[Buffalo Barbarian]

I don't find it offensive and WON'T stand behind anyone who is offended.

 

as a privately owned business they can do as they wish.

 

 

[BringBackFergy]

13 minutes ago, MJS said:

Nver in a million years would I have considered the Saints name/logo offensive.

 

And resembles a weapon? I don't get that. It's a flower.

Yeah. I’m sure the owner of the Saints wanted a flower on their helmets. Nope.  The logo is actually drawn in an intimidating way (sharp points, metallic color, bold). 

 

Exhibit A:

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

7 hours ago, BringBackFergy said:

Start of training camp more important than offending those who disagree with such symbolism? And before you say “Relax”, I don’t care about Indians or cowboys, but this Saints thing really rubs me the wrong way. Needs to change. 

 

The Buffalo Bills just submitted this as their new logo to combat the Offendables.

 

 

 

 

6 hours ago, mead107 said:

Detroit lions ?.   Just shameful to put them in a zoo

Pittsburgh Steelers/ should be locked up. 

 

All the animals kill !!!!

All teams must rename their teams to be eco vegan friendly !!!

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

6 hours ago, mead107 said:

Green Bay packers/ fudge ???

 

Someone must have died in the factory !!!

 

 

6 hours ago, cba fan said:

Buffalo Bill killed American Bisons.

Patriots killed Englishmen.

Ravens attacked humans.

Workers have died working in Steel mills.

Workers have died in accidents working as Packers.

Vikings raped and pillaged.

People have been thrown off Colts and died.

Broncos have stampeded and killed early Americans and native Americans.

49ers have murdered each other over gold claims.

People have been electrocuted(Chargers)

Raiders Buccaneers have killed many.

Cowboys have killed each other and Native Americans.

Redskins killed Cowboys.

Panthers Jaguars Lions Bears Bengals have killed humans.

Titans are killers.

Chiefs led braves in to battles killing others.

Texans killed Mexicans at the Alamo.

 

Meanwhile Saints are heavenly humans and the Fleur de lis used by New Orleans NFL team is paying homage to French Saints that used its imagery. French Saints used lily imagery and fleur de lis was adopted as a representational lily and used throughout France. And is on the city flag of New Orleans and all over New Orleans in many forms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleur-de-lis

 

Patriots were Englishmen too, darn cannibals !

 

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

4 hours ago, Domdab99 said:

I am about as anti-religious as they come, but the name "Saints" is just a name. No need to be offended by it. It'd be like being offended over the Raiders or Bucs name because of what real pirates did in the past. 

 

Are you offended by Redskins?

[McBean]

The more I think about it, the more confident I am of saying, this is the worst thread I’ve ever read,

[Fr. Jerk]

Where's the "I'm offended that you're offended" option?

[Sky Diver]

7 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

On a related note, I’ve aleays found it hilarious that the most liberal major city in America, San Francisco, is named after a Catholic Saint!!  Outrageous! Cue the protests 

 

San Fransicko has bigger problems than being named after a saint.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/Diseased-Streets-472430013.html%3Famp%3Dy

 

Amazing how liberalism has destroyed a once great city.

[stuvian]

As a Canadian I am very familiar with the dangers of the fleur de lis.

 

Exhibit A - Quebec flag

 

The fleur de lis symbolizes the conspiracy to turn North America in to a french speaking territory. It's already happening in Canada where the vast majority of yuppie parents have enrolled their children in french immersion under the deluded belief that their kids will get some high paying government job. To say nothing of the ransom Canada pays to Quebec to stay within Canada. As a result, our entire government is run by francophones for whom Canada is a flag of convenience. To add, Quebec has the highest income taxes in North America.

 

The last referendum very nearly took Quebec out of Canada. With the populist, anti-globalist sentiment sweeping the world I suspect Quebec will separate in my lifetime.

 

Beware my Americans friends, the fleur de lis must be stopped or you will all be eating croissant and drinking cafe au lait before you know it.

[Seanbillsfan2206]

I find the Patriots logo much more offensive and whenever I see someone wearing any kind of Patriots gear I want to punch them in the face

[Tsaikotic]

9 hours ago, Mr Info said:

 

Yep, not offended at all but I am not religious.

And I am not offended by a fleur-de-lis either.

 

Glad camp starts in 2 days.

+1

[mead107]

1 hour ago, joesixpack said:

 

Are you offended by Redskins?

When I get a sunburn and have redskin I am offended by the sun.  

Ban the sun

15 minutes ago, stuvian said:

As a Canadian I am very familiar with the dangers of the fleur de lis.

 

Exhibit A - Quebec flag

 

The fleur de lis symbolizes the conspiracy to turn North America in to a french speaking territory. It's already happening in Canada where the vast majority of yuppie parents have enrolled their children in french immersion under the deluded belief that their kids will get some high paying government job. To say nothing of the ransom Canada pays to Quebec to stay within Canada. As a result, our entire government is run by francophones for whom Canada is a flag of convenience. To add, Quebec has the highest income taxes in North America.

 

The last referendum very nearly took Quebec out of Canada. With the populist, anti-globalist sentiment sweeping the world I suspect Quebec will separate in my lifetime.

 

Beware my Americans friends, the fleur de lis must be stopped or you will all be eating croissant and drinking cafe au lait before you know it.

Ban Canadian football. Their fields are too big. 

[PromoTheRobot]

I find Jets to be offensive because it glorifies gangs. (Obscure reference to 'West Side Story.')

Edited July 24, 2018 by PromoTheRobot

[SoCal Deek]

56 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:

 

San Fransicko has bigger problems than being named after a saint.

 

Amazing how liberalism has destroyed a once great city.

You won’t get an argument from me but you’d think that with all the statues coming down across the country of long since dead people that some of these snowflakes would turn against the sexist, religiously intolerant heritage of their now beloved socialist haven. Just like....Santa Monica, Sacramento, San Diego, and so, so many other California cities. 

Yea...And those rascally 49ers raped the land in a capitalist quest for gold!  

[Kirby Jackson]

We should have had the option to vote for more than 1 option. I’m standing with the offended at the moment but if you’re offended it could be for multiple reasons. It evokes violence and death and religion and sport should be separated. The name was even cleared by the archbishop!! 

 

Also, the colors are black and gold as a reference to oil aka “black gold.” There are more environmentally friendly sources of energy. 

[Royale with Cheese]

11 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Fun fact about the Saints. They are the only team in professional sports that doesn’t have the trademark for their logo. They only own the color scheme. 

 

Fun fact about New Orleans,

 

The LaLaurie estate used to have a human centipede torture attic.

 

[Kirby Jackson]

2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Fun fact about New Orleans,

 

The LaLaurie estate used to have a human centipede torture attic.

 

You’ve done the ghost tour?!? That is the craziest story. 

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

You’ve done the ghost tour?!? That is the craziest story. 

 

I've never even been to New Orleans but I eventually want to go there.

I've done ghost tours in other cities.  The last one was in Savannah and I stayed in a "haunted room".  They did a Ghost Hunters episode in this same room.  Some girl killed herself in the room when she found out her lover died in the Civil War.  Nothing happened and I was enticing her to do something....I slept naked.

[BringBackFergy]

So the Saints and the Boy Scouts of America share the same logo. 

 

Is it just me or does anyone else find this not only offensive but historically discriminatory? The Saints logo is a derivation of a group’s logo that excludes rather than includes. This keeps getting worse. 

 

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

10 hours ago, cba fan said:

Buffalo Bill killed American Bisons.

Patriots killed Englishmen.

Ravens attacked humans.

Workers have died working in Steel mills.

Workers have died in accidents working as Packers.

Vikings raped and pillaged.

People have been thrown off Colts and died.

Broncos have stampeded and killed early Americans and native Americans.

49ers have murdered each other over gold claims.

People have been electrocuted(Chargers)

Raiders Buccaneers have killed many.

Cowboys have killed each other and Native Americans.

Redskins killed Cowboys.

Panthers Jaguars Lions Bears Bengals have killed humans.

Titans are killers.

Chiefs led braves in to battles killing others.

Texans killed Mexicans at the Alamo.

 

Meanwhile Saints are heavenly humans and the Fleur de lis used by New Orleans NFL team is paying homage to French Saints that used its imagery. French Saints used lily imagery and fleur de lis was adopted as a representational lily and used throughout France. And is on the city flag of New Orleans and all over New Orleans in many forms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleur-de-lis

Eagles & Seahawks kill Fish

 

Dolphins do too, they pick on sharks.

 

Falcons kill bunnies

 

Jets can crash... That's bad.

 

Rams, they lock horns and kill each other.

 

Giants, well they might be giants... They surely would have killed Jack for stealing his goose and sliding down the beanstalk

 

Browns bring disease and pestilence.

 

What do Cardinals do? They eat bird seed, look pretty and sing songs.

 

Oh, Saints killed infidels.  That ain't PC.

[Sky Diver]

7 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

So the Saints and the Boy Scouts of America share the same logo. 

 

Is it just me or does anyone else find this not only offensive but historically discriminatory? The Saints logo is a derivation of a group’s logo that excludes rather than includes. This keeps getting worse. 

 

 

 

Is there something in that spring water in Saratoga?

[Bring it]

4 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

I don't find it offensive and WON'T stand behind anyone who is offended.

 

as a privately owned business they can do as they wish.

 

 

This is were I stand also

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

8 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

So the Saints and the Boy Scouts of America share the same logo. 

 

Is it just me or does anyone else find this not only offensive but historically discriminatory? The Saints logo is a derivation of a group’s logo that excludes rather than includes. This keeps getting worse. 

 

 

Boy Scouts include everybody now.  Even gi girls.

[Marv's Neighbor]

Get over it!  Where's "None of the Above" on the "survey?"

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 minute ago, Bring it said:

This is were I stand also

 

That wasn't a choice.

 

?

Just now, Marv's Neighbor said:

Get over it!  Where's "None of the Above" on the "survey?"

That's not a choice either.  Make your own poll.

[mead107]

8 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Eagles & Seahawks kill Fish

 

Dolphins do too, they pick on sharks.

 

Falcons kill bunnies

 

Jets can crash... That's bad.

 

Rams, they lock horns and kill each other.

 

Giants, well they might be giants... They surely would have killed Jack for stealing his goose and sliding down the beanstalk

 

Browns bring disease and pestilence.

 

What do Cardinals do? They eat bird seed, look pretty and sing songs.

 

Oh, Saints killed infidels.  That ain't PC.

What do cardinals do.  Get kicked out of the church when bad. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

4 minutes ago, mead107 said:

What do cardinals do.  Get kicked out of the church when bad. 

Oh... Forgot about those Cardinals!  Some are pedophiles... Ooops...

[Sky Diver]

The "Browns"? That's highly offensive to people of color.

 

What if it was the Cleveland Pasty Whites. How would you like it?

Edited July 24, 2018 by Sky Diver

[Wsam4031]

option 5- this is ridiculous and got 7 pages of responses

[Sky Diver]

1 minute ago, Wsam4031 said:

option 5- this is ridiculous and got 7 pages of responses

 

Cheap entertainment.

[Augie]

23 minutes ago, mead107 said:

What do cardinals do.  Get kicked out of the church when bad. 

 

Poop on my car. (This only for is the little cardinals that fly.) 

[Freddie's Dead]

Right up there with the offensiveness of God, Jesus Christ, or Mohammed.  For the OP, how about an option that it's not offensive at all?

Edited July 24, 2018 by Freddie's Dead

[BringBackFergy]

10 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Right up there with the offensiveness of God, Jesus Christ, or Mohammed.  For the OP, how about an option that it's not offensive at all?

No such thing as "not offended" without the caveat that you will support others who are offended.  If you aren't offended and leave others to suffer through their own offended psyche, then you're a cold hearted person who cares little for others or their individuality.  We have demonstrated that the Saints logo elicits feelings of intimidation, exclusion, slave branding, war and death - yet you choose to look the other way. Free your mind.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

9 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

No such thing as "not offended" without the caveat that you will support others who are offended.  If you aren't offended and leave others to suffer through their own offended psyche, then you're a cold hearted person who cares little for others or their individuality.  We have demonstrated that the Saints logo elicits feelings of intimidation, exclusion, slave branding, war and death - yet you choose to look the other way. Free your mind.

 

Well All Righty Then. 

And on that note...?

 

Methinks further discussion along these lines would be better taken to PPP