HOUSE Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) How Sean McDermott won the Buffalo Bills' locker room back after starting Nathan Peterman Sal Maiorana, Rochester Democrat and Chronicle Published 9:03 a.m. ET July 19, 2018 (Photo: Jake Roth-USA TODAY Sports) Story Highlights Sean McDermott's decision to bench Tyrod Taylor against the Chargers backfired last season. McDermott admitted the mistake, however, and that won back the locker room. .”https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2018/07/19/buffalo-bills-sean-mcdermott-brandon-beane-nathan-peterman-tyrod-taylor-los-angeles-chargers-nfl/790696002/ Edited July 19, 2018 by THE SLAMMER 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I thought he just promised everyone that he recognized that Peterman was nothing more than a backup and would never start again. Seems like an easy fix. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Imagine what happens if he repeats the same mistake. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) I disagree it was a mistake. Tyrod Tylor was playing his worse football ever at the time. A week off may have been what he needed. Okay, in hindsight it was a mistake. Edited July 19, 2018 by THE SLAMMER space 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Imagine what happens if he repeats the same mistake. Ha ha, I know that you are looking forward to NP under center in Baltimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: Ha ha, I know that you are looking forward to NP under center in Baltimore. I might set records for drunkeness on opening night. I have booked the next day off work in preparation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 22 minutes ago, THE SLAMMER said: I disagree it was a mistake. Tyrod Tylor was playing his worse football ever at the time. A week off may have been what he needed. Okay, in hindsight it was a mistake. He shouldn't have announced the change that quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madd Charlie Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, THE SLAMMER said: I disagree it was a mistake. Tyrod Tylor was playing his worse football ever at the time. A week off may have been what he needed. Okay, in hindsight it was a mistake. Yeah it may have been bad but is wasn't PETERMAN bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 We where going to lose that game either way, might as well give the rookie a shot. Taylor was playing bad and it was not out of the realm of him being benched. Add in HC Lynn's knowledge of Taylor's weaknesses and that the Chargers defense is a better version of a Jets defense that destroyed Taylor and you have grounds for a benching. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I almost forgot the 3 game slide where we were out scored nearly 110-40.......and yet even with that miserable showing, we still made the post season. Yeah, I’m as shocked as anyone over that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Funny, not one mention of Rick Dennison in the article, who shoulders the vast majority of blame for the struggling offense as well as starting Peterman in the Chargers game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Funny, not one mention of Rick Dennison in the article, who shoulders the vast majority of blame for the struggling offense as well as starting Peterman in the Chargers game. McD is too classy to throw subordinates under the bus when owning decisions, whether publicly in interviews or privately to the team. Dennison's subsequent firing covered that issue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Sometimes when you think things can't possibly get any worse....you start Nathan Peterman and find out how wrong you can be. I still applaud the idea, but the outcome was notsogood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) Mills should have been arrested after the game as an accessory to an attempted murder. Edited July 19, 2018 by Sky Diver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: Mills should have been arrested after the game as an accessory to an attempted murder. Exactly. He was backing up his boy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: McD is too classy to throw subordinates under the bus when owning decisions, whether publicly in interviews or privately to the team. Dennison's subsequent firing covered that issue. Good point. McD has not thrown a player or subordinate under the bus in any media that I remember seeing or hearing. Agree that the firing did say everything that needed to be said. But for completeness, it would be good if the media at least mentions Dennison as being part of the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, fansince88 said: Exactly. He was backing up his boy! I think the mistake was not releasing Mills after the game. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: I think the mistake was not releasing Mills after the game. Because he sucks or because you think he had nefarious intentions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: I think the mistake was not releasing Mills after the game. The mistake is letting him play at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, Commonsense said: Because he sucks or because you think he had nefarious intentions? Take your pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 This was one of the most impressive things about McDermott’s rookie season IMO. He trusted his OC and let him play his guy. It failed miserably and McDermott took the blame publicly. He apologized to the team and won them back. He held Dennison accountable by firing him. A lot of good came out of a massive mistake. It was the ultimate “learning experience.” 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Ha ha, I know that you are looking forward to NP under center in Baltimore. NP under center will get us closer to Nick Bosa or Ed Oliver, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Diver Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Now hold Mills accountable and find a decent RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Starting Peterman was not a mistake. The mistake comes in not having a more competent backup at that given time. Peterman was selected in the fifth round for a reason, now yes, we have seen later round guys flourish sooner than expected in some instances. However, we also understand that later round guys can tend to be more project types than anything. Taylor needed to be benched, so again the mistake was not in his benching, the mistake was not having a better backup. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 53 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Funny, not one mention of Rick Dennison in the article, who shoulders the vast majority of blame for the struggling offense as well as starting Peterman in the Chargers game. So happy Dennison is gone. One of the worst coordinators I’ve seen on the Bills in past 2 decades. And that’s saying a lot.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Imagine what happens if he repeats the same mistake. Superbowl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 32 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Because he sucks or because you think he had nefarious intentions? Can I choose both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I respect a person who takes full responsibility for their mistakes; that's the mark of a true leader. Admit the error, correct it, and move on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 hour ago, THE SLAMMER said: I disagree it was a mistake. Tyrod Tylor was playing his worse football ever at the time. A week off may have been what he needed. Okay, in hindsight it was a mistake. At least they knew for sure like the rest of us that tyrod wasnt the long term answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 50 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: NP under center will get us closer to Nick Bosa or Ed Oliver, though Yep!! I don’t hate the idea of a superstar DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Winning cures all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 McD said that "unfortunately the decision didn't work out FOR VARIOUS REASONS ." do some of the posters have a blind spot where Peterman is concerned.?? McD is a class guy who is not going to throw any team member under the bus. Mills , I believe appreciates that fact. among others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Bill's where getting their ass handed to them for weeks prior to this, can't blame a guy for trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Tyrod needed to be benched 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
folz Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) Dennison was the epitome of trying to put round pegs into square holes. The zone blocking scheme with the players he had on the offensive line, trying to force Tyrod into a quick passing offense when his best attributes were his feet and his long ball, the Mike Tolbert experiment, etc. Rather than adapting to what he had, he forced players into positions they weren't comfortable in. Tyrod was not a good fit for his (Shanahan's) offense and rather than tweaking and adjusting to Tyrod's skills, he just complained about Tyrod. You could tell from his interviews that he did not like having Tyrod as his QB. The switching to Peterman was no doubt at his insistence and he also had to be the one making a case that Nathan was ready. I agree with others that from McDermott's perspective, the benching of Tyrod was not a mistake. After a 56 yard performance and 3 brutal losses, he was looking to give the team a spark. And if Dennison had been petitioning to bench Tyrod, it had to be pretty hard to say, no I don't think that's the right decision after a 56 yard performance. You have to go with your OC at that point, that is why you hired him. And we get on Tyrod all the time for not throwing the ball when guys were open, etc. And at least 50% of the blame definitely goes to Tyrod, but when the plays being called don't suit your skillset, it is hard to be successful. Isn't that what the good coaches always say...my job is to put guys in a position to succeed. When your OC doesn't trust his QB, you are not going to put that player in a position to succeed. I'm not saying Tyrod would have lit it up in another offense, but I do think his production would have been higher. But this is not a Tyrod-apology post, he was as much to blame for the poor offense. Just stating that Dennison's inflexibility was his own and the offenses downfall and that I think McDermott did make the right decisions, given the circumstances, along the way; from benching Tyrod to firing Dennison. McDermott's main mistake was hiring Dennison in the first place when his scheme didn't fit the players he had. They were already changing the defensive scheme and the team was coming off of being the top rushing team two years running. Keeping some continuity on offense probably would have gone a long way. I do like that coach took the blame though----even now that Dennison is gone...that engenders a lot of trust from your players and staff. And ultimately, it was McDermott's decision. He still could have said no or fired Dennison then, etc. When you are the head coach, you either came to the decision yourself, or you agreed and allowed it to happen. So he does have to own the decision and a good leader doesn't try to cover his ass by throwing someone else under the bus after the fact. Even if it was that person's idea. Obviously in hindsight it didn't go well, but I still think that at the time, given all of the circumstances, it wasn't really a bad decision. It may or may not have cost us one game (we might have lost to the Chargers even if Tyrod started), but it may also have had some further reaching (harder to see) benefits. Edited July 21, 2018 by folz 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 On July 19, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Sweats said: I almost forgot the 3 game slide where we were out scored nearly 110-40.......and yet even with that miserable showing, we still made the post season. Yeah, I’m as shocked as anyone over that. We did well last year when we enjoyed a crazy turnover advantage. Then we regressed to the mean and didn't do as well after. In the end, we got into the playoffs with only 9 wins and needed help to do so which we got. We are a leading regression candidate this year and will almost certainly be a few wins worse, all other factors being equal. But they aren't going to be equal b/c Tyrod isn't on the team anymore. Hence the 4/5/6 win predictions most are making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 too bad the pouting Tyrodless oline didn't admit they went all "revolving door " in their lame half ass way of protecting Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 On 7/19/2018 at 11:24 AM, Sweats said: I almost forgot the 3 game slide where we were out scored nearly 110-40.......and yet even with that miserable showing, we still made the post season. Yeah, I’m as shocked as anyone over that. That gives me some hope that the post season is not impossible this season. We could not stop the run, particularly in those 3 games. I feel that the off season changes should help that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 On 7/19/2018 at 10:51 AM, THE SLAMMER said: I disagree it was a mistake. Tyrod Tylor was playing his worse football ever at the time. A week off may have been what he needed. Okay, in hindsight it was a mistake. Stop making sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Mcd kept the locker room because he demonstrated that he would do whatever it took to spark the team hoping to win. Including later, taking total responsibility for something he did that failed! Its nice to finally have a good coach!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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