Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) EJ Manuel appeared on a recent podcast with NFL analyst and former Buffalo Bills offensive lineman Ross Tucker and discussed his tenure in western New York at length. After his appearance, it’s hard to argue that Manuel didn’t care. He clearly wanted to make the Bills’ selection of him in the first-round in 2013 worthwhile, instead of just going down as another quarterback on the list of those in the team’s drought that couldn’t get it done. Now with the Oakland Raiders in a backup role, Manuel expressed to Tucker that he still believes he’s a starting-caliber quarterback in the NFL. [con't] Tucker: So wait a minute, you’re a first-round pick, and four games into your second year, only your second year, and they benched you? Manuel: Yeah, and we were 2-2. I know, man. It’s…. Tucker: What did they say? Manuel: Well, I remember the meeting I had with coach Marrone and he basically said he wanted me to learn from a veteran. And obviously that was never said to the media and people who say stuff and all that, but like I said, I live a life of gratitude. I can’t sit and worry about anything, it’s apart of my journey, you know? https://www.google.com/amp/s/billswire.usatoday.com/2018/07/17/26306-ej-manuel-depression-buffalo-bills-oakland-raiders/amp/ Edited July 17, 2018 by Drunken Pygmy Goat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 We love benching young QB's. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Watching EJ play on Sunday sent me into depression. 12 1 22 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Peace out, EJ, thanks for.... Yea, peace out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 ....can't fault the kid's worth ethic and dedication to fulfilling his lifelong QB dream...no harm no foul there IMO.....but he suffered as many do, the inability to process the entire field in a scant 5 seconds or less.....I can't open a damn beer in 5 seconds or less......add in that he had ZERO confidence as well as being thrown to the wolves after "The Mat That Ate Brian Kolb"......maybe he sticks as a backup with Chuckie..... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) He’s looked even worse since he left if that’s possible. Nice guy though. Edited July 17, 2018 by YoloinOhio 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 His benching probably saved me from pulling out my hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Most definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Watching EJ play on Sunday sent me into depression. I went through the five stages of grief with him. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 He was a fourth round prospect drafted in the first round. His selection represented the mediocrity and failure of the organization under the aegis of Buddy Nix. Marrone didn't see him as a starting qb in this league. He was right. EJ is a good person with a good work ethic. He can carve out a long and lucrative career as as backup. I'm confident that this more competent regime will handle the rookie qb much differently than it was handled with EJ. Josh Allen shouldn't be thrown out onto the field until he has a chance to succeed at the position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, TigerJ said: His benching probably saved me from pulling out my hair. ...I'm bald so it was never an issue for me..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 EJM would’ve been out of the league if he played any more games with the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Buffalo gave him just enough rope to hang himself . The guy never improved. Was exhausting to watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 34 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Watching EJ play on Sunday sent me into depression. ...ya beat me to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Orton was a better QB then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, JPP said: ...ya beat me to it! ...the OBD list is LONG as far as it being the "Mecca Of QB Evaluation, Assessment & Development"....I'd bet Waste Management would decline pickup of 98.24% of their "candidates"............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 39 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Watching EJ play on Sunday sent me into depression. Well you and EJ have something in common - your posts send me into depression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Leave the kid alone. Id be depressed too if I had a moron for a HC. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Ej is a nice man. I like him. But - being a QB in the NFL requires some true mental toughness. Mental acuity and mental toughness. You've got to have the heart and the guts to make tough decisions in virtually no time and then to execute. Very few guys have it, and there's no shame if you don't. So I'm sorry to say, but I think it's true, that admitting he became depressed when he got benched is just his admission that he didn't have the heart and the toughness it takes to play the position. Tyrod Taylor could have gotten depressed when he got benched. He reacted differently. He said all the right things (which EJ did, too) and then we went back to work. He didn't let the benching change his attitude. As each year goes by, I'm more and more impressed at how tough players are in the NFL. They take incredible physical and emotional beatings and come back for more as if nothing happened. Taylor has that. Manuel doesn't. Edwards didn't. Fitz does. Being tough isn't all it takes, but if you aren't incredibly tough, you aren't surviving in the NFL. It's why it's such a brotherhood. Those are all real mean in the locker room. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 " “When I got benched, man. My confidence took a huge hit, honestly. I was very upset. I was like, ‘Man, what is it that I’m not doing?’ And all this kind of stuff and I started to look at me first. I mean, I threw the ball 10 yards over the heads of my receivers, I threw the ball into the ground at my receivers feet. I couldn't get a first down to save my life, I took all sorts of sacks too but what more could I have done? Am I the only one that doesn't know I should be a starting QB in this league? It's so depressing!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Feel free to re-write history now if you must, but EJ is and was a horrible QB who is lucky to have a job as a backup. Hold onto that clipboard, EJ, and collect those pay checks while you can. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: Feel free to re-write history now if you must, but EJ is and was a horrible QB who is lucky to have a job as a backup. Hold onto that clipboard, EJ, and collect those pay checks while you can. In all honesty he wasn’t the worse. He just wasnt good enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Yeah, the Bills are monsters. Sitting EJ in his second year, only giving Tyrod 3 years to prove he could score 1 or 2 tds a game consistently. Cant believe this team. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: In all honesty he wasn’t the worse. He just wasnt good enough. ....good call Shady.....think that Steve Young (yup him; but what would he know?) said it BEST(repeated this many times here)...."more collegians fail versus succeed at the NFL level due to the speed and complexity of the game".......not sure how else you can put it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Making it into the NFL is an accomplishment on it's own. Not everyone makes it that far. At least he got his foot into the door. The bright side is he still in the NFL unlike Kaepernick and Johnny football who probably are both better than him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....good call Shady.....think that Steve Young (yup him; but what would he know?) said it BEST(repeated this many times here)...."more collegians fail versus succeed at the NFL level due to the speed and complexity of the game".......not sure how else you can put it...... Because most collegian QBs are running a shoddy option game, which has no place in the NFL. they don't even bother to try to step back and throw against cupcakes they run 60-0 over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....good call Shady.....think that Steve Young (yup him; but what would he know?) said it BEST(repeated this many times here)...."more collegians fail versus succeed at the NFL level due to the speed and complexity of the game".......not sure how else you can put it...... That’s why the QB picks are a gamble. You hit big or you roll snake eyes. (those are bad right?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) Hopefully times a changing.......we will see how next season goes.....but jokingly asides....he was bad but by far not the worst we had...... Edited July 17, 2018 by JPP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: Because most collegian QBs are running a shoddy option game, which has no place in the NFL. they don't even bother to try to step back and throw against cupcakes they run 60-0 over. Which is why I don’t even care to watch college football (Unless my daughter wants us to attend a game at her alumni JMU). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Well you and EJ have something in common - your posts send me into depression. You send me into depression every time you post. Do you contribute to the convo, or take jabs at people for contributing to the convo? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, row_33 said: Because most collegian QBs are running a shoddy option game, which has no place in the NFL. they don't even bother to try to step back and throw against cupcakes they run 60-0 over. ...but that is what fills collegiate seats and makes boosters happy, especially when it leads to a megamillions bowl game..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Leave the kid alone. Id be depressed too if I had a moron for a HC. Fair enough but that moron wasn't wrong about EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 EJ always struck me as a good person/ hard worker, I’m sorry to hear he felt that way. Having said that I think he had more than enough chances here over the years even if the coaching left something to be desired. His best bet would to play in the CFL if he’s really looking to start again someday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I still think EJ Manuel is better all round QB than Tyrod Taylor 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 THE CLASSIC REACH ON DRAFT DAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Another Fan said: EJ always struck me as a good person/ hard worker, I’m sorry to hear he felt that way. Having said that I think he had more than enough chances here over the years even if the coaching left something to be desired. His best bet would to play in the CFL if he’s really looking to start again someday ...I would guess anybody would be susceptible to depression if they fell short of their life long goal.....but you have to grab your bootstraps and move on in search of success somewhere or elsewhere..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 that was probably the first time in his life he'd faced that kind of adversity. You could tell he wasn't ready for it. Talent can only get you so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Surprised he is still in the league too be honest. Thanks for trying, EJ it was Buddy's fault not yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 He was a rookie struggling at QB and got benched. That's how it goes. He's soft. He can't be a starting QB with that thin skin and tender make up. Just cash the checks for nothing EJ, you have no idea how good you have it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, THE SLAMMER said: THE CLASSIC REACH ON DRAFT DAY ...NOT the point of the thread so this asinine post doesn't fit in the discussion........a shocker......SMH............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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