26CornerBlitz Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2018 NFL Breakout Players: Here's a look at 10 who are poised for big things this season Dion Dawkins, T, Bills With Cordy Glenn bothered by foot and ankle injuries most of last season, Dawkins started 11 games as a rookie at left tackle. Dawkins did a nice job in protection and was especially good in the run game, which led to the Bills trading Glenn to the Bengals in the spring. Dawkins' ability to move players off the ball helped LeSean McCoy run through big holes. Dawkins also improved in pass protection the more he played. He did have a few rough spots, but he has the look of a player who will be a longtime starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I really like Dawkins. I think he’s got the potential to be a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Members may not agree but I will say it anyway.... Richie Incognito had a lot to do with his success last year, hoping he can adjust. Lining up next to an Pro Bowl player certainly did not hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 We are gonna find out. I thought Dawkins was our best player last year and I think Groy is gonna slip right into that spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, THE SLAMMER said: Members may not agree but I will say it anyway.... Richie Incognito had a lot to do with his success last year, hoping he can adjust. Lining up next to an Pro Bowl player certainly did not hurt. Very valid point. I also think that Richie being next to Eric Wood helped him immensely. I definitely seen a decline in Richie's play last year compared to 2016. Lot of holding penalties in his tenure. He's a pro-bowler but I think the reason he wants to retire is because he's mediocre without Wood. I thought Dawkins was actually the OL for the Bills last season. Edited May 22, 2018 by Santana 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: I really like Dawkins. I think he’s got the potential to be a stud. Yeah. Let's try and keep this one. We love to develop LT's and trade them. Edited May 22, 2018 by TheTruthHurts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Isn't our general opinion on Prisco less than favorable? I need to see more of Dion before going this far... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, HansLanda said: Isn't our general opinion on Prisco less than favorable? I need to see more of Dion before going this far... Yeah, Prisco sucks. Little man syndrome. That said, Dawkins is the best offensive move this new regime has made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, THE SLAMMER said: Members may not agree but I will say it anyway.... Richie Incognito had a lot to do with his success last year, hoping he can adjust. Lining up next to an Pro Bowl player certainly did not hurt. Well, the "steal of the draft" in some circles (Teller) may alleviate that concern of yours. Regardless, for a rookie Dawkins did an excellent job and should only get better! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Dawkins is going to have a great year. He is big, athletic, strong, quick and nasty. He is my favourite player on Offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said: Yeah. Let's try and keep this one. We love to develop LT's and trade them. Its a new front office. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: Its a new front office. This new front office just traded Cordy Glenn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, snamsnoops said: This new front office just traded Cordy Glenn. - Which they didnt draft - Who cant stay healthy - To move up into a position for a franchise quarterback - AFTER they drafted Dawkins who stepped in at LT and played great last year Just sayin......... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I get a kick out of the people who say we lost Cordy for next year. We didn’t have Cordy LAST year! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, THE SLAMMER said: Members may not agree but I will say it anyway.... Richie Incognito had a lot to do with his success last year, hoping he can adjust. Lining up next to an Pro Bowl player certainly did not hurt. 100% Correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snamsnoops Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: - Which they didnt draft - Who cant stay healthy - To move up into a position for a franchise quarterback - AFTER they drafted Dawkins who stepped in at LT and played great last year Just sayin......... so this new front office is developing Dawkins and traded Cordy. It's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Every new front office keeps Jordan Mills. allow that to permeate into your soul a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Soda Popinski said: Every new front office keeps Jordan Mills. allow that to permeate into your soul a bit. He's an All-Pro sort of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Augie said: I get a kick out of the people who say we lost Cordy for next year. We didn’t have Cordy LAST year! The trainers did get a lot of practice with rehabilitation. I am going thru PT now and my therapist is always looking for new ways to treat me and I am sure Bills' trainers do same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Limeaid said: The trainers did get a lot of practice with rehabilitation. I am going thru PT now and my therapist is always looking for new ways to treat me and I am sure Bills' trainers do same thing. The quality of therapy makes a WORLD of difference in the outcome. My son tore his ACL and MCL in HS football. The first therapist treated him like an old lady, which delayed surgery. He went to an amazing therapist next who worked to get his quad strength back up pre-surgery, then handled him post-surgery. He was playing in a basketball tournament 5 months after surgery. AMAZING stuff! That guy is now at UVA doing research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 5 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said: Yeah. Let's try and keep this one. We love to develop LT's and trade them. We should do that every single time if you have a younger, cheaper, more promising option on the roster. If not, yes, you keep them. 2 hours ago, Soda Popinski said: Every new front office keeps Jordan Mills. allow that to permeate into your soul a bit. You keep him till you can upgrade. So far we haven't been able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 You Already Schnow! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, Santana said: Very valid point. I also think that Richie being next to Eric Wood helped him immensely. I definitely seen a decline in Richie's play last year compared to 2016. Lot of holding penalties in his tenure. He's a pro-bowler but I think the reason he wants to retire is because he's mediocre without Wood. I thought Dawkins was actually the OL for the Bills last season. Incognito played pretty well the second half of 2016 when Groy was at Center....not to dispute that Richie and Wood were a good combo -- but I saw no discernable difference in Richie's play when Groy was at C. That might say more about Groy than it does Incognito. I think the board overall underestimates Groy. He is bigger and stronger than Wood. There was a reason the Rams wanted him as their starting Center in 2017. He has earned this opportunity and, barring injury, I believe will take advantage of it. I think the real question is whether Groy is at LG and Bodine is at C or Groy is at C and John Miller moves back to his natural position (LG) in an offense that is more befitting his skills. Edited May 23, 2018 by JoeF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeSomeProcess Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, JoeF said: Incognito played pretty well the second half of 2016 when Groy was at Center....not to dispute that Richie and Wood were a good combo -- but I saw no discernable difference in Richie's when Groy was at C. That might say more about Groy than it does Incognito. I think the board overall underestimates Groy. He is bigger and stronger than Wood. There was a reason the Rams wanted him as their starting Center in 2017. He has earned this opportunity and, barring injury, I believe will take advantage of it. I think the real question is whether Groy is at LG and Bodine is at C or Groy is at C and John Miller moves back to his natural position (LG) in an offense that is more befitting his skills. I love Groy and I really hope he stays at center as Bodine would be a fairly large down grade at center. I think Groy at center and Miller/Teller at LG will be our best option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 minute ago, GimmeSomeProcess said: I love Groy and I really hope he stays at center as Bodine would be a fairly large down grade at center. I think Groy at center and Miller/Teller at LG will be our best option I have seen too many lowlights of Bodine not being able to anchor in pass protection and getting little push in the run game. Bodine has had good plays I am sure in 4 years as a starter and his experience with McCarron is likely a plus...but pressure up the middle in the passing game or run game doesn't make me feel good about the Bills chances with him anchoring the line. I hope I am wrong and that he and Newhouse are both great signings. In Beane and Juan Castillo I trust on this one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRex Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 The current OL picture is Dawkins- LT Ducasse- LG Groy- C Miller- RG Mills- RT back-ups Groy/Teller- G Bodine- C Newhouse/McDermott- T I like Dawkins and am hopeful about Groy, but think it is reasonable to judge the other 3 starter as needing to seriously step up theit games to merely be adequate and our backups need to step up their performance to be merely adequate back-ups who can be expected to step into a game to give a starter a momentary rest and really should not be expected to be adequate starters if forced to be relied on. I see our OL as two players who are not on the roster right now as being short of adequacy and even worse our coaching braintrust has no record of success that anyone credibly can argue they should be expected to coach up youngsters or past inadequate performers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 17 hours ago, THE SLAMMER said: Members may not agree but I will say it anyway.... Richie Incognito had a lot to do with his success last year, hoping he can adjust. Lining up next to an Pro Bowl player certainly did not hurt. At least he got a year of playing with a solid pro bowl vet. Hopefully Incog instilled solid fundamentals and work ethic. I think Dion plays to at least Cordy's level, I think Dion can be a solid LT for the foreseeable future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 15 hours ago, snamsnoops said: This new front office just traded Cordy Glenn. Smart move. Next.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 11 hours ago, BillsPride12 said: You Already Schnow! Where does this ‘You already schnow’ come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 5 hours ago, KingRex said: The current OL picture is Dawkins- LT Ducasse- LG Groy- C Miller- RG Mills- RT back-ups Groy/Teller- G Bodine- C Newhouse/McDermott- T I agree that those 5 appear the likely starters at the moment although I am hoping that McDermott may have improved over the off season and is at least in the picture at RT.... just basing that more on hope than anything I have seen from him.. Those 5 guys would collectively be on about $8-9 Million..I would assume that would be the cheapest OL in the league... They are certainly being paid like backups so it’s hard to expect a lot more from them then that level of play with the exception of Dawkins who impressed last year.. I really hope that another 2018 OL starter is not on the team yet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 6 hours ago, JoeF said: Incognito played pretty well the second half of 2016 when Groy was at Center....not to dispute that Richie and Wood were a good combo -- but I saw no discernable difference in Richie's play when Groy was at C. That might say more about Groy than it does Incognito. I think the board overall underestimates Groy. He is bigger and stronger than Wood. There was a reason the Rams wanted him as their starting Center in 2017. He has earned this opportunity and, barring injury, I believe will take advantage of it. I think the real question is whether Groy is at LG and Bodine is at C or Groy is at C and John Miller moves back to his natural position (LG) in an offense that is more befitting his skills. Yeah I've always been a huge proponent of Groy. Never understood why he wasn't starting over some of the other plug ins. I'm very intrigued to see what this line can do. Little worried about the RT position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 5 hours ago, KingRex said: The current OL picture is Dawkins- LT Ducasse- LG Groy- C Miller- RG Mills- RT back-ups Groy/Teller- G Bodine- C Newhouse/McDermott- T I like Dawkins and am hopeful about Groy, but think it is reasonable to judge the other 3 starter as needing to seriously step up theit games to merely be adequate and our backups need to step up their performance to be merely adequate back-ups who can be expected to step into a game to give a starter a momentary rest and really should not be expected to be adequate starters if forced to be relied on. I see our OL as two players who are not on the roster right now as being short of adequacy and even worse our coaching braintrust has no record of success that anyone credibly can argue they should be expected to coach up youngsters or past inadequate performers I think Groy goes to Cogs spot and Bodine starts at center (because he is a NFL starting veteran....regardless of how good people think he is. Other then that I agree with your lineup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankoElTanko Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 ^ me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 10 hours ago, wppete said: Where does this ‘You already schnow’ come from? Dawkins started using this as a catchphrase of his on Twitter, I think it started after the Indy game but he kept running with it after. Kid seems to have a great, enthusiastic personality! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 29 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said: Dawkins started using this as a catchphrase of his on Twitter, I think it started after the Indy game but he kept running with it after. Kid seems to have a great, enthusiastic personality! Agree his personality and high energy is really great to see. I’m a huge fan . You already shnow! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 14 hours ago, JoeF said: Incognito played pretty well the second half of 2016 when Groy was at Center....not to dispute that Richie and Wood were a good combo -- but I saw no discernable difference in Richie's play when Groy was at C. That might say more about Groy than it does Incognito. I think the board overall underestimates Groy. He is bigger and stronger than Wood. There was a reason the Rams wanted him as their starting Center in 2017. He has earned this opportunity and, barring injury, I believe will take advantage of it. I think the real question is whether Groy is at LG and Bodine is at C or Groy is at C and John Miller moves back to his natural position (LG) in an offense that is more befitting his skills. Or they choose to use both Vlad and Miller as guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Ill say this about Dawkins: when he was starting i barely noticed him, which is a good thing for an OL. In an ideal world we wouldve had a healthy Glenn at LT and Dawkins at LG. But thats now how this cookie crumbled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 On 5/22/2018 at 1:26 PM, TheTruthHurts said: Yeah. Let's try and keep this one. We love to develop LT's and trade them. people on this board love living in the past also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 On 5/24/2018 at 3:09 PM, PrimeTime101 said: trolls on this board love living in the past also. Corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 16 hours ago, Limeaid said: Corrected. thanks for correcting me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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