Is Kim qualified?

[Kmart128]

I mean she worked as a business women in her husbands company from 1991-2010. That's gotta mean something. And she was a part of coming up with One Buffalo so I guess  she some things on her resume

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, CountDorkula said:

I never said she wasn't qualified. 

Russ answered to her, yes. But Russ was still doing day to day tasks that she will now take on, leaving less time for her to do what she was doing. 

So if a person under you is fired, and you don't fill the role, you take on more work, it's that simple.

 

Not necessarily.  You could distribute the work differently, for example - hand off some projects that were in your control (which means people 2 levels down are doing more), or hire a new person 2 levels down to take on some extra projects.

[Fadingpain]

20 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Mike Harrington of the Buffalo News said other ex-player hockey presidents were "laughing" at Kim Pegula's promotion. Well Russ was equally qualified to be a hockey president as Kim.

 

EDIT: Harrington deleted the tweet.

In fairness there are "sports guys" who function as presidents around the NHL and others are "business guys".

 

No need to be a hockey player to run an organization like the Sabres business side.  In fact, I would suggest you are much better off deliberately NOT using an ex-hockey player to run the business side of a hockey team.  

 

My beef is that Kim has no business credentials to speak of to be taking this on.  As long as she delegates authority and remains president in name only, no harm, no foul.

 

 

[ColoradoBills]

39 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Yeah, I think that my issue with it is that there are more qualified people. I 100% get it though. The Pegula’s got burned by Russ and it left a black eye on the organization. They pulled the reins in by putting her in that role. If she trusts and defers to that senior leadership team she won’t have any issues. The problem will arise if she’s at odds with someone more experienced and wiser and she wins out because of her position of power. I don’t foresee it happening often (or maybe ever). 

 

Thanks Kirby for your rational posts about this whole affair.

The extremes from both side of the Opinion Bell Curve are really something.

 

Can't wait for a poster over on SabreSpace board to complain about Sabre Season Tickets will go up in price because Kim isn't

"cold calling" enough companies to advertise on the Blue Line Boards at Key Bank Center.

 

A quick look at the PSE Executive Team would lead me to the speculation that Bruce Popko will be taking on some added duties

along with a bigger bonus.

 

PEGULA SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT STAFF
EXECUTIVES/LEADERSHIP TEAM
Kim Pegula	President
Bruce Popko	Chief Operating Officer, PSE
Frank Cravotta	EVP of Creative Services, PSE
Chuck LaMattina	EVP of Finance, PSE
Erica Muhleman	EVP of Business Development, PSE
Mark Preisler	EVP of Media & Content, PSE
Ron Raccuia	EVP of Licensing & Branded Merchandise, PSE
Brent Rossi	EVP of Marketing & Brand Strategy, PSE

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Thanks Kirby for your rational posts about this whole affair.

The extremes from both side of the Opinion Bell Curve are really something.

 

Can't wait for a poster over on SabreSpace board to complain about Sabre Season Tickets will go up in price because Kim isn't

"cold calling" enough companies to advertise on the Blue Line Boards at Key Bank Center.

 

A quick look at the PSE Executive Team would lead me to the speculation that Bruce Popko will be taking on some added duties

along with a bigger bonus.

 

PEGULA SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT STAFF
EXECUTIVES/LEADERSHIP TEAM
Kim Pegula	President
Bruce Popko	Chief Operating Officer, PSE
Frank Cravotta	EVP of Creative Services, PSE
Chuck LaMattina	EVP of Finance, PSE
Erica Muhleman	EVP of Business Development, PSE
Mark Preisler	EVP of Media & Content, PSE
Ron Raccuia	EVP of Licensing & Branded Merchandise, PSE
Brent Rossi	EVP of Marketing & Brand Strategy, PSE

I would absolutely expect Popko to take a larger role. He was with the Bills prior too as the head of the sponsorship department. I think that he was the one that secured the naming rights.

[cd1]

20 hours ago, John in Jax said:

Obviously, the answer is "no."

 

Also, before the other thread was locked, I didn't get a chance to thank the person ("colin") who chimed in by saying that Kim P. is where she is today because SHE "slept with the boss" way back when.  IF they forced RB out because he was having a CONSENSUAL relationship with a coworker, the irony & hypocrisy would be notable.

WOW - that is a pretty big "if" and a whole lot of disrespect for the Pegulas.

 

I think that there are a few of you that just can't bear the thought of a woman clipping a mans wings.

 

As far as qualifications?  Apparently the only requirement now-a-days is "play golf by day and twitter by night". She is likely bright enough to learn those skills fairly quickly.

[bbb]

12 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Thanks Kirby for your rational posts about this whole affair.

The extremes from both side of the Opinion Bell Curve are really something.

 

Can't wait for a poster over on SabreSpace board to complain about Sabre Season Tickets will go up in price because Kim isn't

"cold calling" enough companies to advertise on the Blue Line Boards at Key Bank Center.

 

A quick look at the PSE Executive Team would lead me to the speculation that Bruce Popko will be taking on some added duties

along with a bigger bonus.

 

PEGULA SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT STAFF
EXECUTIVES/LEADERSHIP TEAM
Kim Pegula	President
Bruce Popko	Chief Operating Officer, PSE
Frank Cravotta	EVP of Creative Services, PSE
Chuck LaMattina	EVP of Finance, PSE
Erica Muhleman	EVP of Business Development, PSE
Mark Preisler	EVP of Media & Content, PSE
Ron Raccuia	EVP of Licensing & Branded Merchandise, PSE
Brent Rossi	EVP of Marketing & Brand Strategy, PSE

 

Not Bruce Popko!  He's the worst! 

[BringBackOrton]

27 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

It's been a little while and no one has been able to answer this. That confirms what I thought, which is that the people who don't like this move aren't actually worried about anything she will do as president. They are worried about something else entirely.

She could:

 

Screw up the Bills bottom line

Screw up the Bills day-to-day operation

Screw up any tertiary PSE events, World Juniors, etc.

Screw up new stadium negotiations

Screw up new land leasing negotiations

Screw up gameday fan experiences

Screw up ticket prices

Screw up box seat prices

 

 

Happy (Days)?

[ColoradoBills]

7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I would absolutely expect Popko to take a larger role. He was with the Bills prior too as the head of the sponsorship department. I think that he was the one that secured the naming rights.

 

Agree.  I read Popko's bio.  He has a lot of experience in all of this.

IMO Kim will now help her partner Terry insure that their vision of the way PSE is run will be followed.

She will approve the Business Plan (developed by the other VP's) and make sure it keeps on track.

[BringBackOrton]

17 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

In fairness there are "sports guys" who function as presidents around the NHL and others are "business guys".

 

No need to be a hockey player to run an organization like the Sabres business side.  In fact, I would suggest you are much better off deliberately NOT using an ex-hockey player to run the business side of a hockey team.  

 

My beef is that Kim has no business credentials to speak of to be taking this on.  As long as she delegates authority and remains president in name only, no harm, no foul.

 

 

And as we saw in the Rex coaching hire, that was not the case.

 

I don't really care that Kim Pegula is the new President.  She's the wife of the owner and assumedly knows "something" about business in general.  She may screw up, or may do fine.  She's hardly the first unqualified sports executive out there.  But she is "unqualified."  And I would have more faith in a different executive.  But I would have more faith in different owners too, so where does that leave us?

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, jmc12290 said:

  But I would have more faith in different owners too, so where does that leave us?

 

Same place we've been for 50 years.

[BringBackOrton]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Same place we've been for 50 years.

  Exactly.

 

Nothing is perfect.

[maryland-bills-fan]

20 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Cool, I can be CEO then

 

 

You have to know a bit about the business and how to deal with people and pick the right people.  It is not necessary to have played linebacker.

21 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Sure because you know a guy that is a bright mind (allegedly) quits after being confronted with results of an internal investigation and ESPN reporter that deletes his previous tweet of Brandon will not have a hard time finding a job points to speculation. Ha ha ha 

 

Not qualified. She is not qualified dont you get it. She isn’t qualified for a position NO ONE can even define 

Soooooo,   you think the position can not be defined,,,, so how do you know she isn't qualified for it. 

2 hours ago, jmc12290 said:

She could:

 

Screw up the Bills bottom line

Screw up the Bills day-to-day operation

Screw up any tertiary PSE events, World Juniors, etc.

Screw up new stadium negotiations

Screw up new land leasing negotiations

Screw up gameday fan experiences

Screw up ticket prices

Screw up box seat prices

 

 

Happy (Days)?

Or she could do just fine.   ???

[BringBackOrton]

4 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

You have to know a bit about the business and how to deal with people and pick the right people.  It is not necessary to have played linebacker.

Soooooo,   you think the position can not be defined,,,, so how do you know she isn't qualified for it. 

Or she could do just fine.   ???

Missed me by two posts.

[cd1]

15 minutes ago, maryland-bills-fan said:

22 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

 

Sure because you know a guy that is a bright mind (allegedly) quits after being confronted with results of an internal investigation and ESPN reporter that deletes his previous tweet of Brandon will not have a hard time finding a job points to speculation. Ha ha ha 

 

Not qualified. She is not qualified dont you get it. She isn’t qualified for a position NO ONE can even define 

 

Ha Ha - the thought of this probably has the same effect as jumping into a cold pool.   Ha Ha Ha

 

Your slip is showing...

[BadLandsMeanie]

Look, I don't know about the Hockey end of it. But being president of an NFL team is really hard to mess up. You just have to sit and find places to deposit the money. 

 

 

[The Wiz]

I find this interesting.

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/news/2018/03/27/nfl-adds-kim-pegula-to-its-business-ventures-group.html

 

She replaced Russ on the committee at the end of March (based on when it was published) and is already on the super bowl and major events advisory board.

 

I'm guessing based on Russ begin replace back then shows that the investigation had to have been going on a while before then.

 

 

Edited May 3, 2018 by The Wiz

[Rob's House]

2 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said:

Some people need a microscope for their most personal appendage...

They often overcompensate by becoming male feminists.

[JMF2006]

On 5/2/2018 at 11:49 PM, BillsFan692 said:

Personally I think the pegulas had more to do with the quarterback we drafted then I would like.

 

Still hopeful/excited for the prospects of our new draft class, but personally I would prefer the pegulas to stay out of it.

 

They remind me of Jerry Jones -- a little too "involved". I hope it works out though.

 

Its their toy,I have no problem with it.

 

We buy madden for $50 bucks they get the real thing for $1.4B

[RochesterRob]

On May 2, 2018 at 6:02 PM, John in Jax said:

LMAO. No, not at all. In fact I'm married to a very successful woman, and have daughters who are also successful in their own right.

 

BUT, OTOH, there's no denying that Kim is a "trophy wife", who is where she is solely because of Terry, is there?

  Trophy wives usually sit away from the business or if they need something to run the hubby comes up with something like a hair salon.  None of that describes Kim.  Many people come up through the ranks through many avenues.  Not everyone has the chance to do 4 or 6 years in college when they turn 18.  One of the most successful women I know on a local level never went to college.  There are quite a few bright people who do not get the opportunity to go to college or run a large scale business.  Kim Pegula has been given an opportunity and will do her best to run with it.  You are being very judgmental despite your claims of being enlightened and open minded.  Let Kim stand on her record after a couple of years just like any other recently promoted person in the business world.

[CodeMonkey]

On 5/2/2018 at 5:40 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

Mike Harrington of the Buffalo News said other ex-player hockey presidents were "laughing" at Kim Pegula's promotion. Well Russ was equally qualified to be a hockey president as Kim.

 

Not really.  At least Russ had a lot of experience as a president of a team in a sport much bigger than hockey in the US before becoming president of the Sabres.

[PromoTheRobot]

18 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said:

Not really.  At least Russ had a lot of experience as a president of a team in a sport much bigger than hockey in the US before becoming president of the Sabres.

 

The "laughter" was supposedly due to a lack of hockey experience, so Kim and Russ are at the same level there.

[GreggTX]

I'm guessing she's been looking over Russ Brandon's shoulder for a while now. She has the easy job. Beating the other 31 teams to the Lombardi Trophy is the hard part.

[3rdand12]

8 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said:

Some people need a microscope for their most personal appendage...

I was speaking in general terms regarding what is endemic on these pages......

And i am a bit too loose with my comments.
really take life more seriously at my age..

[3rdand12]

On 5/3/2018 at 1:53 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Not necessarily.  You could distribute the work differently, for example - hand off some projects that were in your control (which means people 2 levels down are doing more), or hire a new person 2 levels down to take on some extra projects.

I am currently reading a book about Organizational change. Going to six sigma by a fellow who worked for Cummins.

The subject is really how to drive long term change and how to trickle it down. How to manage it measure it and adjust as you go.
Can Imagine the New message has already been conveyed across to all affected parties from top to bottom, and what roles they play. How they will achieve the larger concept via many underlying projects.

 I am sure, quite sure tha Terry and Kim Pegula have long term vision for their New Kingdom ; )
And Beane and McD have theirs for the Buffalo Bills.

 

 She just needs to keep everyone on task via short term accomplishments combined over the next 5- 10 years to repair/ rebuild the Foundation of Buffalo sports. Bills are my focus.

Wishing and them great success ! 

 

 It's for the good of everyone to show patience and " trust the Process " . 

 

so to your point Hap, yes I agree. They will figure it out.

 

Go Bills !!
 

32 minutes ago, GreggTX said:

I'm guessing she's been looking over Russ Brandon's shoulder for a while now. She has the easy job. Beating the other 31 teams to the Lombardi Trophy is the hard part.

I can imagine they have been quite attentive to details through out the their " regime" 

Its having an effective plan in place for the change that takes so much time.

I read a transcript of Business Model that was proof of a method.

 

Surround your self with Professionals smarter than you. And be one hell of a good judge of character and reading the interactions of teams.

 

Kim can likely do that. 

 Terry is too mushy. he probably likes Math equations  

[Jpsredemption]

Considering Russ Brandon stopped caring it would be hard to get any worse.

[baskingridgebillsfan]

welp, we have a former game show as president so the bar is a little lower than it use to be 

[26CornerBlitz]

Kim Pegula says she stepped in as Bills, Sabres president to bring stability

ATLANTA — Before Kim Pegula assumed the role of president of the Buffalo Bills, Sabres and three other professional sports franchises under the Pegula Sports & Entertainment umbrella, she and her co-owner husband, Terry, considered their options.

 

One was to hire someone to replace Russ Brandon, who resigned as the company’s managing partner and president on May 1 for what The Buffalo News has reported was due to workplace and personal misconduct. Another was for Kim to carry the title on an interim basis until a full-time replacement was found.

 

In the end, they decided their flagship sports properties, the Bills and Sabres, had already experienced enough upheaval and they didn’t want to create more by bringing in a new person to head their business operations.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

37 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Kim Pegula says she stepped in as Bills, Sabres president to bring stability

ATLANTA — Before Kim Pegula assumed the role of president of the Buffalo Bills, Sabres and three other professional sports franchises under the Pegula Sports & Entertainment umbrella, she and her co-owner husband, Terry, considered their options.

 

One was to hire someone to replace Russ Brandon, who resigned as the company’s managing partner and president on May 1 for what The Buffalo News has reported was due to workplace and personal misconduct. Another was for Kim to carry the title on an interim basis until a full-time replacement was found.

 

In the end, they decided their flagship sports properties, the Bills and Sabres, had already experienced enough upheaval and they didn’t want to create more by bringing in a new person to head their business operations.

 

...the Brandon underlings are being retained and will carry the "heavy lifting" for Kim until she gets fully up to speed......when they purchased the club, she initiated a top to bottom review of all departments, personnel and job description functions which got scrapped with the Marrone exodus..the had to keep Brandon and Whaley who were under contract to maintain some organizational stability....Terry referred to the Bills in the Inner Circle as "HER baby"....so I wouldn't underestimate her ongoing understudy to become very knowledgeable in all Bills operations....Terry's "czar push" was to find a Polian like person to actually groom her to become President......

Edited May 23, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[ColoradoBills]

Is Kim qualified?

Like the old ALCOA moments:  You make the call.

 

 

 

 

[Kirby Jackson]

12 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...the Brandon underlings are being retained and will carry the "heavy lifting" for Kim until she gets fully up to speed......when they purchased the club, she initiated a top to bottom review of all departments, personnel and job description functions which got scrapped with the Marrone exodus..the had to keep Brandon and Whaley who were under contract to maintain some organizational stability....Terry referred to the Bills in the Inner Circle as "HER baby"....so I wouldn't underestimate her ongoing understudy to become very knowledgeable in all Bills operations....Terry's "czar push" was to find a Polian like person to actually groom her to become President......

They have people in place capable of handling the job. Polian was to stabilize the football department. There was no turmoil on the business side (which is what a team president oversees). Russ was good at his job just not good in the me too era. There are people in place (like Bruce Popko) whose name you’ll start to see. They are the ones doing the work, Kim is the one relaying the message. To be very clear though, Kim is learning from Popko & company not the other way around.

[TheBeaneBandit]

On 5/2/2018 at 5:48 PM, nucci said:

The NFL sells itself...let your football people do their jobs, put a winning team on the field and try to make the game day experience fun....

You said it all man......... Whats your name man?....   Forrest Gump!!! For real though,  this stuff gets way too over complicated around here.  Just build the teams right...... Forget the billboards,  the cheesy season ticket slogans,  etc...... Just do it right and they will come........ Its not hard people

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

You said it all man......... Whats your name man?....   Forrest Gump!!! For real though,  this stuff gets way too over complicated around here.  Just build the teams right...... Forget the billboards,  the cheesy season ticket slogans,  etc...... Just do it right and they will come........ Its not hard people

It’s actually a zillion times harder than that. You don’t think every team just says, “let’s just win this year and we are fine?” That’s an awful business strategy. There are 32 teams and that will always be somewhat cyclical (the Patriots are an obvious outlier). You have to build a business model and plan that is sustainable whether you are 14-2 or 2-14. Your budget is what it is regardless of your record. Obviously winning helps you achieve those numbers but there is not one team, in any level of professional sports, that’s business model is “let’s win and it will be okay.”

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

They have people in place capable of handling the job. Polian was to stabilize the football department. There was no turmoil on the business side (which is what a team president oversees). Russ was good at his job just not good in the me too era. There are people in place (like Bruce Popko) whose name you’ll start to see. They are the ones doing the work, Kim is the one relaying the message. To be very clear though, Kim is learning from Popko & company not the other way around.

 

...yes they do and they are assuming bigger responsibilities under Kim.....sorry but Polian was also to be charged with grooming Kim to be President/Administrator of the organization, which may be a very fine line of disagreement...today there is FAR greater/superior organizational stability IMO versus when RW went into panic mode after firing Donohole, followed by "re-tiring" Marv and putting Brandon in positions woefully unqualified for....similar upheaval was with Marrone's exodus....overall, I'd bet today's organization can seamlessly overcome the Brandon exodus without missing a beat.....just my opinion.......

[TheBeaneBandit]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

It’s actually a zillion times harder than that. You don’t think every team just says, “let’s just win this year and we are fine?” That’s an awful business strategy. There are 32 teams and that will always be somewhat cyclical (the Patriots are an obvious outlier). You have to build a business model and plan that is sustainable whether you are 14-2 or 2-14. Your budget is what it is regardless of your record. Obviously winning helps you achieve those numbers but there is not one team, in any level of professional sports, that’s business model is “let’s win and it will be okay.”

Its not just a lets win this year thing....... Are they really thinking its a sure thing they are winning now??? But in this particular region just showing commitment to building the right way is more than the usual,  which is happening right now, and its much more than has worked so far...  ..  Winning!!!

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...yes they do and they are assuming bigger responsibilities under Kim.....sorry but Polian was also to be charged with grooming Kim to be President/Administrator of the organization, which may be a very fine line of disagreement...today there is FAR greater/superior organizational stability IMO versus when RW went into panic mode after firing Donohole, followed by "re-tiring" Marv and putting Brandon in positions woefully unqualified for....similar upheaval was with Marrone's exodus....overall, I'd bet today's organization can seamlessly overcome the Brandon exodus without missing a beat.....just my opinion.......

That’s not the case. They wanted to stabilize he football department. People get confused as to the org chart. Think of the business side and the football side as to separate businesses. There isn’t much/any crossover. The team president oversees the business operations, marketing, stadium ops, community relations, public relations (some crossover on that), ticket sales, IT and sponsorship. I worked in sports for multiple teams for almost a decade. I’m pretty well-versed as to the way that it flows.

 

The reason that they can overcome Russ leaving is because he left behind talented sports business executives. Dave Wheat and Bruce Popko jump out as guys that have been high level executives for years in sports. Either one of them could have had (and may had) chances to interview for other team president positions. This isn’t at all “new” to them. 

4 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

Its not just a lets win this year thing....... Are they really thinking its a sure thing they are winning now??? But in this particular region just showing commitment to building the right way is more than the usual,  which is happening right now, and its much more than has worked so far...  ..  Winning!!!

Winning will always help. That’s obvious. It just isn’t always going to happen. It doesn’t for anyone. You can’t build your budget for the upcoming year based on results on the field. The reason a team asks for your renewal at the end of the previous year is to monitor the revenue for the upcoming year. They need to know where they stand. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s not the case. They wanted to stabilize he football department. People get confused as to the org chart. Think of the business side and the football side as to separate businesses. There isn’t much/any crossover. The team president oversees the business operations, marketing, stadium ops, community relations, public relations (some crossover on that), ticket sales, IT and sponsorship. I worked in sports for multiple teams for almost a decade. I’m pretty well-versed as to the way that it flows.

 

The reason that they can overcome Russ leaving is because he left behind talented sports business executives. Dave Wheat and Bruce Popko jump out as guys that have been high level executives for years in sports. Either one of them could have had (and may had) chances to interview for other team president positions. This isn’t at all “new” to them. 

 

...differing opinions and I am just pointing out what I know without revealing sources........not my style ....this is where we should leave it and move on....I'm good.....

[Kirby Jackson]

18 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...differing opinions and I am just pointing out what I know without revealing sources........not my style ....this is where we should leave it and move on....I'm good.....

Then you and I have heard totally different things (and Polian never came so I’ll trust what I heard). It’s not a coincidence that the Pegula’s put RB over the Sabres after they took over the Bills. They didn’t replace him, they promoted him. They knew that he was good and could stabilize their business.

Edited May 23, 2018 by Kirby Jackson

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Then you and I have heard totally different things (and Polian never came so I’ll trist what I heard). It’s not a coincidence that the Pegula’s put RB over the Sabres after they took over the Bills. They didn’t replace him, they promoted him. They knew that he was good and could stabilize their business.

 

...bud. I am not a braggart nor will I ever be...I respect posters too much to flood the plain with BS (Dunkirk Don I will NEVER be).....our company has been suite holders for 20 years and the depth and extent of relationships at the highest level exist.....so let's just leave it there and move ahead with 2018 football discussion with mutual respect attained....

Edited May 23, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[Mat68]

Removing an executive is not an inexpesive endevor.  The Pegulas found reseason to fire Brandon with cause.  Not sure but assume that will cost them nothing vs forcing early retirement or buying his contract out.  The transition may have accured a year or 2 early but not unexpected.  Bringing in someone on the outside to hold the position for a year makes no sense, nor does promoting someone just to remove in the near future.