Paul Costa Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Does he have any trade value? And if the answer is yes do we still get the cap relief? I think he keeps bonus money. I think Bills need to move on. I predicted he would try to come back when he realized that he was leaving a lot of money ? out there!!? what will he do next? Not worth the risk!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: The nflpa is super weak but that seems like it would be unwinnable for the Bills. It’s our faults for having the crazy guy in the first place. But much like Boldin, the Bills hold all the cards. He’s an old G who really doesn’t have power right now. Get back on your meds Richie before it costs you millions! Yeah, but I dont want an unhappy Richie around the team, showing up just to get paid. I also dont want to cut him and let him off the hook either. At this point, I hope he just stays retired. 3 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: Does he have any trade value? And if the answer is yes do we still get the cap relief? I think he keeps bonus money. I think Bills need to move on. I predicted he would try to come back when he realized that he was leaving a lot of money ? out there!!? what will he do next? Not worth the risk!! Wonder if Giants would be interested in us throwing him in with the package to get to #2? Edited April 14, 2018 by DrDawkinstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 22 minutes ago, Derby Dan said: You really think so. He plays in a brutal game and he agreed to the pay cut. He was not forced. Why not give him the benefit of the doubt Because I know what really happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Derby Dan said: You talked to Richie, please share. I believe in the best of people. Why would he take a pay cut then. The man is in pain. Look for the best ray No, the blue print has been worked and he is not part of the trade. Announcement next week I hope you believe in the best about people. But what about Colin Kaepernick, because you made posts about him in another thread. Do you believe in the best with him? A guy who wasn’t voted dirtiest player in the nfl, accused of sexual harassment, kicked out of 2 colleges and let go by multiple nfl teams because he was a problem? 11 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yeah, but I dont want an unhappy Richie around the team, showing up just to get paid. I also dont want to cut him and let him off the hook either. At this point, I hope he just stays retired. Wonder if Giants would be interested in us throwing him in with the package to get to #2? I don’t think teams value 35 year old crazy Gs. Though him and crazy Odell would be a funny reality show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Finkel Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, Derby Dan said: You talked to Richie, please share. I believe in the best of people. Why would he take a pay cut then. The man is in pain. Look for the best ray He was my favorite Bill, but sometimes people do dumb things when they are not in the right frame of mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 25 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I know it's a stretch but could the Bills suspend him for detrimental conduct, just to keep him away and not pay him? Whats the conduct? Retiring in a manner not graceful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said: He was my favorite Bill, but sometimes people do dumb things when they are not in the right frame of mind. Like Zay? What a strange off season this has been so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 A lot of crazy things happening on twitter lately.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Like Zay? What a strange off season this has been so far. I’m assuming Zay was a result of spice. RI has issues to begin with but I’m sure some party favors have been mixed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Whats the conduct? Retiring in a manner not graceful? I dont know, thats why i said its a stretch. But I know it didnt work for George Costanza/Larry David, and if I tried quitting/retiring and coming back like it was a joke, it wouldnt work for me either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 15 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I dont know, thats why i said its a stretch. But I know it didnt work for George Costanza/Larry David, and if I tried quitting/retiring and coming back like it was a joke, it wouldnt work for me either. They could cut him, but suspend him without pay and not allow him to play elsewhere would take more in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 He's pretty clearly off whatever medication he was on. This is old Richie, which is a really bad thing for those around him. I hope he can sort his **** out. I've lived that life before and I wouldn't wish it on anyone, not even with the regard (or lack thereof) that I hold Richie in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) Maybe Jonathan Martin escaped from the looney bin and is stalking him? Edited April 14, 2018 by Jamie Muellers Ghost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 8 hours ago, davefan66 said: Couple this with firing his agent, and it seems to me that Richie is having buyers remorse regarding the pay cut he just took. Bills showed resolve with Bolden last year and let him rot on the reserve/retired list. Wonder if Richie sees that and will “unretire” in hopes of getting cut. Thats what they are saying because if he does stay on the retired list he has to return the $1.5 million signing bonus & i know i wouldn't want to do it ! Articles say that he may be hoping that they cut him so he can keep the $$ & still make the pay from the contract renegotiation he just did & if that is what he's doing then he is a bigger piece of **** than we or the Bills realize & needs to be gone ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 He is fine. He is just pissed that he restructured. THREE consecutive Pro Bowls and he knows now the guard market is thin. He really should be pissed at his personal team for brokering such a Bills friendly deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Whatever the dumb as* I'm not a told-you-so kind of guy. But as I said on Tuesday... Posted Tuesday at 08:45 AM First he says he signs his new contract and says how excited he is to play another year for the Bills. Then he fires his agent. Then he tweets that he's done. Then he deletes that tweet. Then he tells Vic he really is done. Then he tells another reporter that he's in talks with the Bills about his retirement. When the wheel stops spinning, let me know. I'm not convinced Richie's retirement is the final word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Maybe someone stole his phone or hacked his twitter account? Would make me feel better about RI ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said: Maybe Jonathan Martin escaped from the looney bin and is stalking him? Or they end up in the looney bin together!!! That would be a great reality show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloMatt said: He is fine. He is just pissed that he restructured. THREE consecutive Pro Bowls and he knows now the guard market is thin. He really should be pissed at his personal team for brokering such a Bills friendly deal. He is worth more than he is getting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 He will be traded. Teams need pro bowl guards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: Maybe someone stole his phone or hacked his twitter account? Would make me feel better about RI ??? For a month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He’s a big Trump guy. Throw temper tantrums on twitter and hope you get your way. It’s sadly now the American way. Just for the record plenty of Trump supporters arent doing this and plenty of non Trump supporters are, so something tells me whether you voted for Trump or not isnt the root cause here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: He is worth more than he is getting! Unfortunately, being completely erratic and unpredictable brings his value down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Unfortunately, being completely erratic and unpredictable brings his value down That came after he was sh*t on and asked to take a pay cut after three consecutive years of being one of the best guards in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloMatt said: That came after he was sh*t on and asked to take a pay cut after three consecutive years of being one of the best guards in football. Which he accepted. For such a Trump guy, how was it possible Richie made one of the worst deals in history? 15 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He’s a big Trump guy. Throw temper tantrums on twitter and hope you get your way. It’s sadly now the American way. 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: That came after he was sh*t on and asked to take a pay cut after three consecutive years of being one of the best guards in football. He was cut mid season by the rams, left the dolphins in controversy and this may be his bills departure. He was booted from Nebraska and never accepted at Oregon. if we cut him, how do you suppose he departs his next team? Or are you confident that this is out of character for him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: He was cut mid season by the rams, left the dolphins in controversy and this may be his bills departure. He was booted from Nebraska and never accepted at Oregon. if we cut him, how do you suppose he departs his next team? Or are you confident that this is out of character for him? So you're saying he's never made a graceful exit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 29 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Or they end up in the looney bin together!!! That would be a great reality show. "The New Odd Couple" sounds like a great TV show... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, NoSaint said: He was cut mid season by the rams, left the dolphins in controversy and this may be his bills departure. He was booted from Nebraska and never accepted at Oregon. if we cut him, how do you suppose he departs his next team? Or are you confident that this is out of character for him? Judge him on the last three years. That is what I am saying. When I perform well at my job I am given a raise, not a kick in the gut. This is on the OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 ...if he's bi-polar, wonder if he can play G and T............left side fixed................ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 34 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: He is worth more than he is getting! And from our standpoint, that's perfect. We hope all our players produce more than they get paid. If he didn't like the contract, he shouldn't have signed it. Maybe he needed a million dollars and restructured the contract to get the bonus up front. But the Bills would only renegotiate the contract if they were given a discount. I'm not sure how this unfolded but I'd rather see the Bills underpay for talent than overpay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: And from our standpoint, that's perfect. We hope all our players produce more than they get paid. If he didn't like the contract, he shouldn't have signed it. Maybe he needed a million dollars and restructured the contract to get the bonus up front. But the Bills would only renegotiate the contract if they were given a discount. I'm not sure how this unfolded but I'd rather see the Bills underpay for talent than overpay. I agree from the Team's perspective. I am just surprised at all the vitriol towards 64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: Judge him on the last three years. That is what I am saying. When I perform well at my job I am given a raise, not a kick in the gut. This is on the OBD. He accepted the deal and then lost his mind on Twitter! How is this possibly on the Bills, who gs e him a chance in the first place when no one wanted him? And why are people defending him? Not exactly the best dude in the world. 28 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Which he accepted. For such a Trump guy, how was it possible Richie made one of the worst deals in history? 2024 And much like Trump, he will probably go bankrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: And why are people defending him? Not exactly the best dude in the world. Because most people don't judge people by an "All or Nothing" standard. Richie is a human being, and from what I read not the bad of one......................Someone I certainly could defend. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateHookerMD Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Richie IncognitoVerified account @68INCOGNITO 3h3 hours ago @BuffaloBillsPR @buffalobills Please release me from my contract. Contact @AthletesFirst for further updates. Thank you for your service Clearly this was a power play by Richie that the Bills called his bluff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, Captain Murica said: A lot of crazy things happening on twitter lately.. Sammy is nuts, man. He really is a weird dude with some very very strange beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 41 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: That came after he was sh*t on and asked to take a pay cut after three consecutive years of being one of the best guards in football. Tyrod took a pay cut after being in the Pro Bowl too.... 5 minutes ago, PirateHookerMD said: Richie IncognitoVerified account @68INCOGNITO 3h3 hours ago @BuffaloBillsPR @buffalobills Please release me from my contract. Contact @AthletesFirst for further updates. Thank you for your service Clearly this was a power play by Richie that the Bills called his bluff. Wasn't "athletes first" his former agent? The ones he fired on twitter? 10 minutes ago, B-Man said: Because most people don't judge people by an "All or Nothing" standard. Richie is a human being, and from what I read not the bad of one......................Someone I certainly could defend. . Most people look at a persons entire lifes work and not justvthe short period of time that they played a game really well for their favorite team........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 20 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Sammy is nuts, man. He really is a weird dude with some very very strange beliefs. He is, I follow him for the comment section. ? a lot of people saying he’ll be getting a memo for a random drug test soon along with someone asking if he is not human and a super alien serpent race then why does he get injured so much. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 22 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Tyrod took a pay cut after being in the Pro Bowl too.... Wasn't "athletes first" his former agent? The ones he fired on twitter? Most people look at a persons entire lifes work and not justvthe short period of time that they played a game really well for their favorite team........ Cant fire an agent on twitter. Much like you can’t retire. I’m curious what, if any, paperwork he’s filed through all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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