longtimebillsfan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Now that we have our "Bridge "QB, I got to thinking, did we trade Tyrod too soon? I , for one, am glad that we signed AJ McCarron. I am not a Tyrod hatter, but I can understand that McBeane wanted to move on from the Wrex experiment. But given the limited experience of McCarron and the fact that Tyrod did enough (with some luck) to get the bills to the playoffs, should we have kept TT as our Bridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I believe that Tyrod is a better player but McCarron, pick 65 and $6M (or whatever it is) in cap space is a superior situation. Once they trade up I think that they will be in much better shape at the position. Beane has really set this team up nicely. They don’t have a ton of talent today but they have a lot of resources to add that talent. They have been responsible patient. It is an exciting time IMO. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Difference between the two is Taylors ceiling in the passing game has been established, McCarron on the other hand has not. Both good game managers that protect the football IMO. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 No one knows. Mccarron is an unknown, that always excites people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Bridge - Tyrod Bridge Quarterback - McCarron 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I loved Tyrod, but I'll take the draft pick and cap savings over the guy who blew the playoff game for us overthrowing open receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Bridge - Tyrod Bridge Quarterback - McCarron Nice. I like that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Doesn't matter, the rookie will start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I think McBeane did Tyrod right by trading him. I think Cleveland intends on not playing their rookie QB this year and wants Tyrod to instill a winning culture on the field. I think Bills will be playing their rookie QB sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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longtimebillsfan Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: I loved Tyrod, but I'll take the draft pick and cap savings over the guy who blew the playoff game for us overthrowing open receivers. I was a Tyrod fan. He is an exciting player. It did drive me crazy to see so many open receivers that he never saw or was unwilling to throw to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I believe that Tyrod is a better player but McCarron, pick 65 and $6M (or whatever it is) in cap space is a superior situation. Once they trade up I think that they will be in much better shape at the position. Beane has really set this team up nicely. They don’t have a ton of talent today but they have a lot of resources to add that talent. They have been responsible patient. It is an exciting time IMO. I agree with Kirby. And I would add that AJM has an unknown ceiling, whereas with Tyrod I think his ceiling is pretty evident. I'll take the unknown guy, a pick and cap space as my bridge QB. And who knows, maybe AJM becomes a good player for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Boca BIlls said: Doesn't matter, the rookie will start. Do you think the rookie will start from day one? I guess that depends on who we draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: Now that we have our "Bridge "QB, I got to thinking, did we trade Tyrod too soon? I , for one, am glad that we signed AJ McCarron. I am not a Tyrod hatter, but I can understand that McBeane wanted to move on from the Wrex experiment. But given the limited experience of McCarron and the fact that Tyrod did enough (with some luck) to get the bills to the playoffs, should we have kept TT as our Bridge? If you think the answer is "Tyrod Taylor", then I have a bridge quarterback in Cleveland to sell you. Edited March 15, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, Boca BIlls said: Doesn't matter, the rookie will start. The rookie won't be starting IMO Allen is a project... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said: If you thin the answer is "Tyrod Taylor", then I have a bridge quarterback in Cleveland to sell you. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, longtimebillsfan said: I was a Tyrod fan. He is an exciting player. It did drive me crazy to see so many open receivers that he never saw or was unwilling to throw to. No, my problem was quite the opposite. In the playoff game against the Jags he kept hugely overthrowing open receivers he DID see and WAS throwing to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said: I think McBeane did Tyrod right by trading him. I think Cleveland intends on not playing their rookie QB this year and wants Tyrod to instill a winning culture on the field. I think Bills will be playing their rookie QB sooner. McCarron will be the opening day starter. Whoever they draft will have some time to develop and learn how to be a QB in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Figster said: The rookie won't be starting IMO Allen is a project... I am hoping for Rosen, but that topic has already been debated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 *Flips coin... Forgets question... Grabs a beer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 If you’re looking for a traditional pocket passer, McCaron. If you have an offense better geared for a mobile QB, Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, 1ManRaid said: No, my problem was quite the opposite. In the playoff game against the Jags he kept hugely overthrowing open receivers he DID see and WAS throwing to. There is that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 not to be a jerk... but who cares? we saved cash- have a bit of an unknown- gained an asset- and TT is no longer our problem. woulda, coulda, shoulda, but it is what it is. Moot point. Lets look forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Getting a 3rd for Taylor was a great move by Beane. When Taylor first came to the Bills, he had hardly played at all. At least McCarron has a little bit of starting experience and is not afraid to throw the ball. Nobody should expect McCarron to come in and light it up. The Bills will get their QB in the draft. The Bills may take a step backwards until that rookie can show he can play. Building for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I agree with others that since they're building for the future, McCarron plus the draft pick plus the lower cap hit is the way to go. On top of that, Taylor's upside is pretty clear; McCarron's isn't. So there's a chance, slim though it may be, that McCarron could become your long-term solution. Moreover, by reducing the cap hit, etc., Bills may have left themselves in a position to force the Eagles to lower their price for Foles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, longtimebillsfan said: I am hoping for Rosen, but that topic has already been debated. true that, Allen kid is loaded with raw talent and can make throws no other QB in the top 5 can make in my humble opinion. Kid needs to be groomed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Figster said: true that, Allen kid is loaded with raw talent and can make throws no other QB in the top 5 can make in my humble opinion. Kid needs to be groomed... He needs to be shaved an let it all regrow ? I like his ceiling, I wouldn't be upset with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 McCarron, imo. Younger, cheaper, better measureables and a better/more refined thrower from the pocket. A "bridge" guy is someone you throw out there not to lose you a game. Execute the gameplan and hit the easy throws. I think either of these two can do that, but as stated above, McCarron is younger and cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 21 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: No one knows. Mccarron is an unknown, that always excites people. and it spoke volumes that the fanbase wanted Tyrod on an ice floe without a backout that's how it goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Don't we already know what TT is? Yes, we do! He's not good. We don't know about McCarron. Only time will tell and I am one fan that's ready to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 That’s why they play the games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 pretty much a draw, tie breaker is the salary & potential which makes McCarron a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I don't know, I will let you know at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 29 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: Now that we have our "Bridge "QB, I got to thinking, did we trade Tyrod too soon? I , for one, am glad that we signed AJ McCarron. I am not a Tyrod hatter, but I can understand that McBeane wanted to move on from the Wrex experiment. But given the limited experience of McCarron and the fact that Tyrod did enough (with some luck) to get the bills to the playoffs, should we have kept TT as our Bridge? Who cares? Thank the Lord that the Tyrod experiment is over in Buffalo. Let the coaches and the front office do their job. They clearly have said Tyrod is not the guy. Wish him well in Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 22 minutes ago, Figster said: The rookie won't be starting IMO Allen is a project... You don't draft a project that early than. So I guess they aren't drafting Allen since you think he is a project. No worries... Rookie will start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 If AJ can be that guy he showed in his few starts, AJ all day. That guy on this team would blow our minds and make it hard for the coaches to make the transition to the rookie. That said, I think TT will be a great fit for Cleveland. I think Hue will know how to get the most out of him, not trying to squeeze him into a pocket guy. Draft Barkley 1st overall and have the nastiest backfield (Barkley/Hyde/TT) in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Who cares? Thank the Lord that the Tyrod experiment is over in Buffalo. Let the coaches and the front office do their job. They clearly have said Tyrod is not the guy. Wish him well in Cleveland. It really boils down to what guy fits your style coaching, system, and supporting cast so there really is no right or wrong answer in my humble opinion BuffaloBill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 McCarron with this contract because it makes it that much easier for a rookie we draft to start at any point, including potentially week 1 in 2018. We got McCarron for less than 1/3rd of the price of what Taylor would have cost us this year. We have a great QB situation for a 1st round rookie to come in and compete against some legit competition rather than a JAG like Savage or Moore so that if the rookie wins the job out the gate, we have a really good backup QB. Win win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 36 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: No one knows. Mccarron is an unknown, that always excites people. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Tyrods gone. He’s on his way to becoming the next notch on this jersey Aj all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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