Worst local media commentator on the Bills?

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, ricojes said:

We're better than this....

 

Bills fans are known for their heart, not their heads. And 17 years of irrelevance have seriously taken their toll on the fanbase.

Edited March 13, 2018 by DrDawkinstein

[JaCrispy]

John Murphy, hands down...when compared to the other hosts, his knowledge and intelligence on what’s going on and info on prospects is very limited... his show is basically a joke and I can’t wait for it to be replaced by Sal’s own show.

 

Love Schoop and Jeremy and Sal...they are much better critical thinkers.

[zonabb]

Sal C. Total fan boy. Interjects himself, explicitly, and implicitly, in most of his conversations. Often he frames his conversations in a way that tries to give him credibility or "experience drops." Last time I heard him and couldn't change the channel, I think on a gamer day, he said "I walked out the tunnel this morning and it was a beautiful day for football." Not simply "Hey, it's a great day for football" but interjecting himself into it. All the time. Don't care about his kid. And every time he's on with other WGR people, he cuts them off. Annoying as hell. Knowledgeable, but in a horrible package.

After that it's Jeremy White, who takes all his cues and knowledge from pop cultural and social media, has no original thoughts of his own, just a regurgitator of collective approved ideas. 

 

[SmokinES3]

9 minutes ago, zonabb said:

Sal C. Total fan boy. Interjects himself, explicitly, and implicitly, in most of his conversations. Often he frames his conversations in a way that tries to give him credibility or "experience drops." Last time I heard him and couldn't change the channel, I think on a gamer day, he said "I walked out the tunnel this morning and it was a beautiful day for football." Not simply "Hey, it's a great day for football" but interjecting himself into it. All the time. Don't care about his kid. And every time he's on with other WGR people, he cuts them off. Annoying as hell. Knowledgeable, but in a horrible package.

After that it's Jeremy White, who takes all his cues and knowledge from pop cultural and social media, has no original thoughts of his own, just a regurgitator of collective approved ideas. 

 

Sal C. is actually one of the one's I can stand.

[T-Bomb]

2 hours ago, greeneblitz said:

Mike Schopp for sure, I can't understand how such a great football market such as ours has to deal with the garbage sports talk we get, Sal is the only thing good in WNY talk and he doesn't even have his own show.

 

The X's and O's guys or former players are the garbage to listen to, no originality whatsoever, they just repeat the crap spewed by the national media.

 

Schopp is probably the best, that's why he gets paid the most and is in the best time slot.

 

John Murphy is the worst by far.

[Helpmenow]

Schopp is an idiot condescending prick

[bigduke6]

3 hours ago, TheTruthHurts said:

Looks like someone got hung up on. I don't really grade other peoples opinions, but John Murphy is such a Bills homer it's hard to listen to.

isnt he basically a paid employee of the Bills tho?   kinda his job

[I'm Spartacus]

Worst: Jerry Sullivan

2nd Worst: Schoop

Best: Sal Cappaccio

[HT02]

Schoop, I don't even listen to the afternoon show anymore because I can't stand him

3 hours ago, bigduke6 said:

isnt he basically a paid employee of the Bills tho?   kinda his job

Yes but that's what makes him a bad listen

[The Wiz]

They are all bad in their own way.

 

The ones at the top of the list in any order:

Murph: Homer, anything you say against the bills is wrong.

Schoop: flip flopper/stubborn.  Either you agree with him or you're wrong and then when you do agree with him, he counters your point with a comment a previous caller he just called an idiot and hung up on made.

Bucky/Sully: Which article from the last 20 years should I rewrite this week to piss all over our fans?

 

 

Edited March 13, 2018 by The Wiz

[Buffalo Barbarian]

7 hours ago, VeryWeakPassword said:

 

Schopp? Jeremy White?

 

Schopp.

 

Why do you ask?

 

 

[Misterbluesky]

4 hours ago, Don't stop billievein said:

Jerry Sullivan for me. Most negative guy around. 

He's the reason why I no longer get the BN delivered to my home everyday.

[May Day 10]

5 hours ago, psaleh said:

How about the other side of the coin? Who are the best local media (print or tv/radio) to pay attention to?

 

(I live in Baltimore so I get most of my Bills news from this website, twitter, and occasionally will listen to WGR on my Amazon Alexa. However my wife (who likes the Bills) can't stand listening to WGR because she says the guys' voices give her a headache).

 

I think the best "follows" on twitter are: Sal C., Joe B., and Matthew Fairburn.

 

Joe B IMO seems to have the most grounded, well-researched, and un-biased (either way) information and view points.  He has no schtick or anything he needs to feed into so he is straight-forward.  He is the best of the lot.  

[The Wiz]

Just now, May Day 10 said:

 

Joe B IMO seems to have the most grounded, well-researched, and un-biased (either way) information and view points.  He has no schtick or anything he needs to feed into so he is straight-forward.  He is the best of the lot.  

I'll give you that 99% of the time.  He had it out for EJ.

[LA Grant]

Schopp is the best personality on WGR, by far... I'm so glad he doesn't put up with the stupidity from so many callers. 

 

Vic Carucci is the worst one, easily. He gets by on his reputation from the 90s and has been consistently wrong with his predictions/reports the last few years.

[PromoTheRobot]

9 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Bills fans are known for their heart, not their heads. And 17 years of irrelevance have seriously taken their toll on the fanbase.

They weren't any smarter in the Super Bowl years.

[Agent 91]

15 hours ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

Bulldog, guy can't put a sentence together

I like him. He went off on Schopp for defending tyrod. I also like his little rants sometimes. I dont really hate anyone. I cant listen to murph and dj that was a great concept when we had jim rome. but its stale. i look forward to Nate Geary and or Ryan Gates on the night cap

[BuffaloRush]

9 hours ago, The Wiz said:

I'll give you that 99% of the time.  He had it out for EJ.

He had it out for EJ....because he was a bad QB.  He was right!!!!

4 hours ago, LA Grant said:

Schopp is the best personality on WGR, by far... I'm so glad he doesn't put up with the stupidity from so many callers. 

 

Vic Carucci is the worst one, easily. He gets by on his reputation from the 90s and has been consistently wrong with his predictions/reports the last few years.

Really?  I think Vic has been pretty spot on with a lot of his reports.  "consistently wrong?"  Give me a few examples

[Agent 91]

14 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

to me its Murphy and Jones.  It is so vanilla and unlistenable.  Boring.  I like Murphy too from the most part, he runs a good show.  I think the problem is Jones.  I don't hate him so much, I just think you need a better Yang to Murphy's Yin.  Put the wrong guy there and the show is ruined.

 

Kind of when the Sabres put Harry Neale with Jeanneret and it was awful.  With Jeanneret, you need kind of a straight man (which Lorentz was and Rob Ray is, believe it or not). 

 

Jones is kind of boring, never really thinks outside the box or takes chances, and always agrees with Murphy.  

Lorenzo Alexander and Murph.  I dont think Murph likes to e outshined. I thought Donald was leaving the show anyway. What happened to that

14 hours ago, BuffaloRush said:

 

Terrible draft pick, though some here will believe it was a great draft pick SMFH

lol.i had a mini rant about him in a different thread

[Agent 91]

13 hours ago, zonabb said:

Sal C. Total fan boy. Interjects himself, explicitly, and implicitly, in most of his conversations. Often he frames his conversations in a way that tries to give him credibility or "experience drops." Last time I heard him and couldn't change the channel, I think on a gamer day, he said "I walked out the tunnel this morning and it was a beautiful day for football." Not simply "Hey, it's a great day for football" but interjecting himself into it. All the time. Don't care about his kid. And every time he's on with other WGR people, he cuts them off. Annoying as hell. Knowledgeable, but in a horrible package.

After that it's Jeremy White, who takes all his cues and knowledge from pop cultural and social media, has no original thoughts of his own, just a regurgitator of collective approved ideas. 

 

Sal did kind of turn into Joe B. but I still think he offers way more than anyone else due to the fact that he has roots in the game. 

[fridge]

I only tune in when something major happens just to hear people chat about the Bills/Sabres. 

 

I have nothing but pity for you if you're actually spending serious hours listening to these guys.  If you listen on your commute maybe learn how to stream a podcast or something?

[Punt75]

16 hours ago, Green Lightning said:

Schopp, I can live with everybody else.

 

He's actually one of the highest paid broadcasters in the WNY market.  He has a nice $400,000 house at 3621 W. River Rd. in Grand Island with a pool and 4 bedrooms - - pretty nice for Grand Island!  I don't know his appeal - - unless - - the Buffalo area sports fans are just so used to losing and being beaten down that they enjoy and expect his behavior!!??   Who else do we have?  Murphy is a slug with nothing to say!  Joe B is weak and silly! 

[steven50]

I really don't care for Schopp and the Bulldog, the only position in football they ever talk about is QB. I cant see the whole field during a game, I don't need endless recaps of what I saw on TV. I want to know if receivers are open that I don't see and what linemen are blowing assignments etc.

 

They were also the pied pipers and lead cheerleaders of the great tank in hockey. I don't think it takes 5 yrs of unwatchable hockey to finish in last place again, so ya I thought all that tank crap was stupid.

[Ol Dirty B]

14 hours ago, zonabb said:

Sal C. Total fan boy. Interjects himself, explicitly, and implicitly, in most of his conversations. Often he frames his conversations in a way that tries to give him credibility or "experience drops." Last time I heard him and couldn't change the channel, I think on a gamer day, he said "I walked out the tunnel this morning and it was a beautiful day for football." Not simply "Hey, it's a great day for football" but interjecting himself into it. All the time. Don't care about his kid. And every time he's on with other WGR people, he cuts them off. Annoying as hell. Knowledgeable, but in a horrible package.

After that it's Jeremy White, who takes all his cues and knowledge from pop cultural and social media, has no original thoughts of his own, just a regurgitator of collective approved ideas. 

 

 

Agree completely.

 

Sal is a grade a douche bag. Whenever he starts talking about what he used to do in HS, or coaching HS and how he coached his players all I can think is "will this never was shut the !@#$ up". I respect people's opinions for the most part, but when you start using your High School experience as a basis for what you're saying or use it to show you're more credible in what you're talking about, you lose me. High School sports suck, especially in WNY.

5 minutes ago, steven50 said:

I really don't care for Schopp and the Bulldog, the only position in football they ever talk about is QB. I cant see the whole field during a game, I don't need endless recaps of what I saw on TV. I want to know if receivers are open that I don't see and what linemen are blowing assignments etc.

 

They were also the pied pipers and lead cheerleaders of the great tank in hockey. I don't think it takes 5 yrs of unwatchable hockey to finish in last place again, so ya I thought all that tank crap was stupid.

 

Bulldog hated the tank, and was trying to shoot down talking about it like 2 weeks ago or so. I'm not his biggest fan, I think he's a stammering moron, but do you even listen?

[Klaista2k]

Schopp. Jeremy White is really bad too. 

3 hours ago, Punt75 said:

 

He's actually one of the highest paid broadcasters in the WNY market.  He has a nice $400,000 house at 3621 W. River Rd. in Grand Island with a pool and 4 bedrooms - - pretty nice for Grand Island!  I don't know his appeal - - unless - - the Buffalo area sports fans are just so used to losing and being beaten down that they enjoy and expect his behavior!!??   Who else do we have?  Murphy is a slug with nothing to say!  Joe B is weak and silly! 

How do you know where he lives? Are you friends with him or something?

[KRT88]

23 hours ago, VeryWeakPassword said:

 

Schopp? Jeremy White?

White is so snarky with every comment.  He comes across as a true @ss.

 

Schopp is just rude with fans.  Either believe what he thinks or he hangs up on you. 

 

Both a truly weak. 

 

 

[May Day 10]

5 hours ago, Punt75 said:

 

He's actually one of the highest paid broadcasters in the WNY market.  He has a nice $400,000 house at 3621 W. River Rd. in Grand Island with a pool and 4 bedrooms - - pretty nice for Grand Island!  I don't know his appeal - - unless - - the Buffalo area sports fans are just so used to losing and being beaten down that they enjoy and expect his behavior!!??   Who else do we have?  Murphy is a slug with nothing to say!  Joe B is weak and silly! 

 

 

was this creepy post necessary?

[eball]

22 hours ago, SmokinES3 said:

Jeremy White by far. His political BS on twitter around election time did it for me. 

 

Classic.  He's the worst Bills commentator because you don't agree with him politically.  Jeremy's not bad at all, and you can tell he's also a fan without being a blatant homer.

 

I don't even listen to this Schopp/Schoop guy but John Murphy is PAINFUL to listen to.  Just terrible.

[flomoe]

I’m out of town so I can’t  really opine about anything other than WGR since I have the app to listen to it.

Schopp isn’t that bad. He can be snarky and his defense of Tyrod was way too over the top but he’s tolerable.

Jeremy White, imo, doesn’t know enough about football to be taken seriously. He’s a hockey guy and he should stick to that. Some of his opinions and comments about the Bills sound like some of the National guys who follow the team once in a while, very uninformed.

Edited March 14, 2018 by flomoe

[Mr. WEO]

In Rochester, the ESPN affiliate has "Danger and Bataglia".. Gene Bataglia is the absolute worst.  Brutal speaker.

[Green Lightning]

18 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

In Rochester, the ESPN affiliate has "Danger and Bataglia".. Gene Bataglia is the absolute worst.  Brutal speaker.

I'm in ROC as well and can second this.

[Mr. WEO]

40 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

I'm in ROC as well and can second this.

 

 

He runs his words together.

 

"ehhhhaaaahhhhhooooooono"  translate to "eh, I don't know".

 

And to listen to them both drone on endlessly about the loss of the crappy minor league soccer team was horrible.  They kept saying that soccer is the most popular youth sport in Roc....while totally ignoring that no one in Roc wants to pay to watch pro soccer.

 

Their takes are predictable  dead horses.

[CaptnCoke11]

Ryan Gates only because his annoying voice 

[Helpmenow]

Schopp is so full of himself, always against the caller no matter what

[Blokestradamus]

20 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

He's the reason why I no longer get the BN delivered to my home everyday.

 

I knew he was a bit of a bastard but stealing your morning paper? That's low, Jerry.

[CuddyDark]

That weak assed Sal Capaccio.

[steven50]

9 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:

Bulldog hated the tank, and was trying to shoot down talking about it like 2 weeks ago or so. I'm not his biggest fan, I think he's a stammering moron, but do you even listen?

 

I really don't care what he was saying two weeks ago. I listened when the great tank was going on and he was going right along with schoop. I also remember one episode when he was talking about how he was explaining it to his kid, How losing on purpose is a good thing. I am a LL coach and I am sorry but that is not the lesson I want kids to learn. Sports should be about being competitive not about rolling over. Your view may be different and your welcome to it.

 

In hindsight they all say sing a different tune then they did in 2013 and 2014.

[Jay_Fixit]

From my ears way out west here, it’s Donald Jones.

 

You guys don’t like Schopp and Bulldogg but I don’t mind either.

 

On second thought, I’ve heard Craig Rivet attempt to talk football so I’m going with him.

 

~ Pac-12 Guru

Edited March 14, 2018 by Jay_Fixit

[Guest K-GunJimKelly12]

The worst thing imo about the main WGR hosts, is it doesn't seem like any of them ever played organized sports or were ever in a locker room.  They talk down to people who have been there and act like they know more about the game from reading then people who played it their whole lives at high levels.  Nothing substitutes for experience.  They think they know but they don't.  Things like culture and momentum do exist.  So does being in the zone which can be scientifically proven.  The thing about being in the zone you could never know what that is from reading.  You would have to be in it to understand and you can't get in the zone unless you are actually good.  The arrogance from guys like Schopp and White when it comes to these issues is off putting.

Edited March 14, 2018 by K-GunJimKelly12

[Green Lightning]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

He runs his words together.

 

"ehhhhaaaahhhhhooooooono"  translate to "eh, I don't know".

 

And to listen to them both drone on endlessly about the loss of the crappy minor league soccer team was horrible.  They kept saying that soccer is the most popular youth sport in Roc....while totally ignoring that no one in Roc wants to pay to watch pro soccer.

 

Their takes are predictable  dead horses.

Hate to say it but they're minor league talents. I try to tell myself it's better than nothing, but sometimes it's not!