FearLess Price Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I think he's getting shafted because of height and people exaggerating his character issues. Mayfield is my #1 choice. Its good to have a leader with fire, with fighting spirit. Rosen is #2 on my list only bc his injuries. Concussions are dangerous. You get a few bad ones and your done. Darnold #3 but he is boom or bust rite now. He needs the most work out of the 3. I want nothing to do with Allen. He seems like paxton lynch 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 44 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: I wouldn't have one iota of issue with this trade. Me neither... and we'll still have 5 picks left in the first 3 rounds and 9 more picks in the first 5 rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Me neither... and we'll still have 5 picks left in the first 3 rounds and 9 more picks in the first 5 rounds Underrated factor imo. With their trades and shedding of Whaley era players, Beane and co were betting on their ability to draft their own. Harder to do without picks. I don't believe they will give up 4 or 5 picks to get to the top 3. Edited March 11, 2018 by Boatdrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 On 06/03/2018 at 8:13 AM, Logic said: I've said this on these forums many times before, but... I really, REALLY want the Bills to draft Baker Mayfield. If he was 2 inches taller, he'd be the consensus top pick in the draft. In my opinion, he will be the best quarterback of this class and has Hall of Fame potential. He will give the Bills an identity and swagger that they have been lacking for 22 years. He is the consummate "earned everything he ever got" underdog, and he's PERFECT for this city and this team. I only hope McDermott and Beane see it the way I do. Teams are really going to be kicking themselves for passing on this kid. His enthusiasm is infectious. I cannot see a Rosen or Darnold lifting his team the way Baker could. Like i said in another thread, I would love to see him throw the winning TD pass in Foxboro and then give the Pats a crotch grab salute. It would be worth the taunting penalty. Do it McBeane - you know it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 Weird connection I know... but I felt Mayfield was actually a distant 3rd to Rosen and Darnold for McBeane simply because of his height, but if it's true the Bills (with the Jets) are really going hard after Breed (who's never leaving NO), maybe that's an encouraging sign that McBeane aren't valuing the true "tall pocket passer" thing I thought they might solely value. And no, I'm not trying to say Mayfield = Brees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 He's the most accurate QB in this draft his completion % is over 70% but hes not your "NFL Prototypical QB" because he's 6' or under according to the NFL draft Experts !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 On 3/5/2018 at 2:21 PM, ShadyBillsFan said: I have 3 words off field issues - he even resembles JFF Mayfield was arrested in February on charges of charges of public intoxication, disorderly conduct and fleeing and resisting arrest The worst part of it is he was chased down and tackled by what sounded like a county Sherriff Officer in Arkansas. So escapability=sux good news is the booking confirms his height is 6’-1” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 every top QB prospect this year has multiple warts depending on who you ask. if we could get Mayfield around 10, for a reasonable price, it would make sense. Mayfield strikes me as a guy who wouldnt mind playing here, he is accurate, showed he has the arm, can make the all the throws. my biggest worry with Baker is his ability to read defenses, cuz frankly, the offense the sooners ran is not pro friendly. the biggest need for any QB to succeed in the NFL is field awareness. Physical gifts are important, but the subpar QB play by 3/4 of pro QBs is directly related to the terrible offenses run by most of the colleges. Spread/Air Raid QBs, ill pass. These offense are used by coaches with QBs that cant read the field well, and thats fine, but it doesnt allow QBs to be NFL ready when they're drafted. Accuracy, field awareness please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liverpoolkev Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Probably because of his arrest video On 3/11/2018 at 6:39 AM, SydneyBillsFan said: His enthusiasm is infectious. I cannot see a Rosen or Darnold lifting his team the way Baker could. Like i said in another thread, I would love to see him throw the winning TD pass in Foxboro and then give the Pats a crotch grab salute. It would be worth the taunting penalty. Do it McBeane - you know it makes sense. you mean when he was running from the cops drunk.....that guy should have been in jail......imagine that was any QB that did not look like me....HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SHOT DEAD with the cops saying he was scared for their lives....... nah I'll pass..... mcbeane supposedly have some process going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Little "buzz" to me is that he has enough red flags that makes him risky for a team to trade up for him. I think teams would draft him if he slid but the cost of moving into the top 5 or top 10 is so high that doing so for Mayfield would be too much of a gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiddenInLight Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Maybe the amount of "buzz" you receive is directly correlated to the amount of inches above the ground stand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 5 hours ago, bigduke6 said: every top QB prospect this year has multiple warts depending on who you ask. if we could get Mayfield around 10, for a reasonable price, it would make sense. Mayfield strikes me as a guy who wouldnt mind playing here, he is accurate, showed he has the arm, can make the all the throws. my biggest worry with Baker is his ability to read defenses, cuz frankly, the offense the sooners ran is not pro friendly. the biggest need for any QB to succeed in the NFL is field awareness. Physical gifts are important, but the subpar QB play by 3/4 of pro QBs is directly related to the terrible offenses run by most of the colleges. Spread/Air Raid QBs, ill pass. These offense are used by coaches with QBs that cant read the field well, and thats fine, but it doesnt allow QBs to be NFL ready when they're drafted. Accuracy, field awareness please. There were reports out of the combine from anonymous GMs that he was the guy blowing teams away in the interview/film room process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: There were reports out of the combine from anonymous GMs that he was the guy blowing teams away in the interview/film room process. thats excellent news then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just a few QB's I will name to show 6'1 is not to small Drew Brees 6' Russell Wilson 5'10 Aaron Rogers 6'2 Dak Prescott 6'2 Baker Mayfield 6'1 Think we are being over critical over an inch or 2? Is it now how there motion is in the pocket and there foresight knowing where the player is going to be and where the ball has to be more important? just a wondering question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) He doesn't have ideal size, period. Still a great prospect, but it does matter. The only question you have to ask. Is he good enough to overcome it? Edited March 30, 2018 by TheElectricCompany 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 What matters most is he has the ability to find open wrs and hit them in stride. Some say its his wrs talents but i haven't seen anyone like this since Luck he used to find guys wide open. This is something that shouldn't be overlooked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 History is not on the side of short QBs. Fact. Baker is 6' 3/8. Stop rounding up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbflaBill Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 His height is a factor, there is no question about it. Some scouts take measurables more seriously than others. Yes he is a good qb but to say his height isnt a big deal is foolish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Put lifts in his shoes. That's what Tom Cruise does. That extra inch or two might be all he needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: History is not on the side of short QBs. Fact. Baker is 6' 3/8. Stop rounding up. Don't short the guy. He's 6' 5/8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 You know what they say about short QB's with small hands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I'm more concerned about his below average hand size Average hand size is 9.6 inches https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/09/.../big-hands-small-colleges-and-the-nfl-draft.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 He has tons of talent. But NFL history isn't on his side... doesn't mean he cant overcome his obstacles because I wouldn't bet against him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said: I'm more concerned about his below average hand size Average hand size is 9.6 inches https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/09/.../big-hands-small-colleges-and-the-nfl-draft.html Tell me about all the QBs that have busted because their hands are too small. Maybe he'll fumble more, but that will not be the reason he fails. QB failure comes down to accuracy, field vision/decision making, injuries or character. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 18 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: History is not on the side of short QBs. Fact. Baker is 6' 3/8. Stop rounding up. It’s not? Can you name any QBs who failed because of height? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 21 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: What matters most is he has the ability to find open wrs and hit them in stride. Some say its his wrs talents but i haven't seen anyone like this since Luck he used to find guys wide open. This is something that shouldn't be overlooked. this and I think he can find QB's and deliver. in stride.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Can he copy what Brees can do is what matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 33 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: History is not on the side of short QBs. Fact. Baker is 6' 3/8. Stop rounding up. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbflaBill Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, Batman1876 said: It’s not? Can you name any QBs who failed because of height? most dont even get a shot, you have to be exceptional just get a D1 offer. Mayfield himself had to walk on at 2 schools cause colleges werent going to give him a chance. I just coached a great high school QB. One of the best I have seen, not 1 d1 offer because he was 5'11. Literally had college coaches tell me they just cant recruit him cause of his size. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 he is this tall/short Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 29 minutes ago, Batman1876 said: It’s not? Can you name any QBs who failed because of height? It's not so much about failure, but being limited i.e. Noodle arm QBs being limited by their lack of arm strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I think I've heard somebody talk about this before, I'm not sure though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, SouthNYfan said: I think I've heard somebody talk about this before, I'm not sure though. You are wrong. This is the first time on this board or in any media really where I have seen someone mention Mayfield's height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 a top O-line can make up for shortness in a good QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, ALF said: Can he copy what Brees can do is what matters. Drew has massive hands (10.25 inches). Having that grip in the ball really helps at the pro level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: It's not so much about failure, but being limited i.e. Noodle arm QBs being limited by their lack of arm strength. So which QBs have been limited due to height? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: You are wrong. This is the first time on this board or in any media really where I have seen someone mention Mayfield's height. Crazy. I can't believe it hasn't been brought up before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 29 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: he is this tall/short Russell is like 5’10” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Dan McGwire was 6'8". He must have been awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Russell is like 5’10” 5'10-5/8". Does baker look 2 inches taller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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