Commsvet11 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Cmdjr85 said: You guys are obsessed. Its laughable at this point. Because we discuss yet again how shady your teams organization is? We can’t help that it gets highlighted nearly every year, but no, your right, majority of 31 other fan bases, must have it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 18 minutes ago, Cmdjr85 said: Dont care this is none of your concern, youre a bills fan You seem awfully salty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, Cmdjr85 said: You guys are obsessed. Its laughable at this point. Talking about what’s happening with other NFL teams in an NFL FOOTBALL FORUM is not obsessive in the least. What is obsessive is the compulsion to have to defend EVERY criticism of your favorite team. Your insecurity about one of the most successful teams in history is childish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: He didn't burn any bridges...this is just fan fodder. Are you applying to be his old agent for his old agent said: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22356955/josh-mcdaniels-agent-bob-lamonte-quitting-colts-mess When McDaniels told him he was staying in New England, LaMonte replied that McDaniels was " committing professional suicide," according to the source. LaMonte also is the agent for Colts general manager Chris Ballard. Of course he and his ex- have had a rocky relationship. This is not the first time LaMonte and McDaniels have parted ways. They have worked with each other on and off over the years. 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: 2. Lets say it is true, it means NOTHING. If a BETTER job comes after, he is under NO OBLIGATION to take a lesser job and if you PRETEND you would still do it, you are a liar. EVERY single person here would take the better job 100% of the time in that situation. Just because you are a liar does not me everyone else has. I have received job offers, a better offer than I was currently had and offer from previous company I was leaving with a raise and I turned them down because I gave my word. Evidently that means less than the dung on bottom of Billicheat's shoes to you. You are a true blood Pats* fan. 22 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Why has the Pats troll not been banned yet? Mods like trolls and ban posters sometimes when they are attacked too much. 15 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...certainly understand what you're saying Dawg.......media reported McDaniels & Patricia HC hires as well as Alex Smith trade, NONE of which had signed contracts in place when reported......Patricia signed, McDaniels balked and Smith/Deadskins still have an opportunity to nix the deal....absolutely loathe the urinalists, but this one is NOT on them IMO.... Your word should be your bond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) Back in the day , a mans word was his bond. I know things change but , a mans word is still his bond. McDaniels must have told the three coaches he hired that, he was going to be the HC in Indy. Then he reneged, and screwed over the three coaches. Shame on him and anyone who thinks like him, i.e. the whole Patriots organization.May karma roost on your organization, for the foreseeable future. Edited February 7, 2018 by Wily Dog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 41-33 Every day the Super Bowl gets better! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, K-9 said: Your insecurity about one of the most successful teams in history is childish. This is an evergreen statement about all Pats fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 18 minutes ago, Cmdjr85 said: You guys are obsessed. Its laughable at this point. I’m laughing at your obsession with what’s going on in a Bills fan forum. Why do you care so much what is discussed here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: You seem awfully salty Must be all that clam in the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Hey, NE had a good season! Runner up to the WORLD CHAMPIONS! #2 aint bad! Better than us for sure... But still 2nd place Let me save the Pats* troll the trouble of going back and forth about 5 rings. I'll just post the HISTORY of the 49ers, Steelers (who have the most of any team) Cowboys, etc. History is fun. This is 2018. The Eagles are Super Bowl champs. The only difference between the Patriots rings and those of the Steelers, 49ers, and Cowboys is that they are more recent. Still in the past though. Enjoy the memories! To be the man you have to beat the man, and Foles and the Eagles BEAT THE MAN! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Are you applying to be his old agent for his old agent said: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22356955/josh-mcdaniels-agent-bob-lamonte-quitting-colts-mess Of course he and his ex- have had a rocky relationship. Just because you are a liar does not me everyone else has. I have received job offers, a better offer than I was currently had and offer from previous company I was leaving with a raise and I turned them down because I gave my word. Evidently that means less than the dung on bottom of Billicheat's shoes to you. You are a true blood Pats* fan. Mods like trolls and ban posters sometimes when they are attacked too much. Your word should be your bond. ...naw, I'm NOT bondable......but I just call them as I see them, strictly opinion......if the urinalists reported on only ONE of these alleged deals, I'd be "source suspect".....but for all three to be out there in a very short period of time tells me that was the intent from those that "leaked".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Seems like the plan is one more year of Belichick to pave the way for McDaniels. Which is fine with me. Quote No. 1, Bill Belichick said to him, 'I want you to be by my side. I am going to open my world to you.” This is creepy, like a John Mayer song Edited February 7, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 49 minutes ago, Cmdjr85 said: Ahahaha good one. I know this much Pats are winning at least 2 games in 2018 Didn't every team other than Cleveland win at least 2 games this year? Way to set the bar high! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 39 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Seems like the plan is one more year of Belichick to pave the way for McDaniels. Which is fine with me. Luke--- come join me on the dark side....it is your destiny.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commsvet11 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Didn't every team other than Cleveland win at least 2 games this year? Way to set the bar high! The question should really be which two games will the refs give to the pats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Commsvet11 said: The question should really be which two games will the refs give to the pats? If I had to guess, I’d say the one that helps the lock home field advantage and then the one that helps them keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Commsvet11 said: The question should really be which two games will the refs give to the pats? They will definitely have their annual loss to the Miami **** show. Good thing they don’t have to play that world beater Alex Smith this year. Edited February 7, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) Interesting. I've been in a work environment where there was The Guy and everyone else, and everyone else would fret constantly about whether there was any kind of succession plan or whether The Guy was just going to turn off the lights and close up shop one day. Ultimately I chose to leave because I just wasn't convinced there would ever be any passing of the torch. BB is known for NOT being a mentor. I wonder if McDaniels' change of heart was indeed (as linked/suggested above) based upon BB finally agreeing to mentor him and pass down his wisdom, even if Kraft wouldn't go all the way to promising McDaniels that he'll get the job when BB retires. If that's how it all went down I kind of get it and can somewhat relate to it on a personal level, even though the way it went down was abysmal. Frankly it's as much on BB as it is on McDaniels if that's the case. Edited February 7, 2018 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ndirish1978 said: Seems like Tony Dungy, whose opinion matters, disagrees with you strongly. And the point of that is? Who cares what Tony Dungy thingks? You think he has any more info than you, me or anyone else? Trust me, he doesn't. Since when does Tony know what NE offered him in those meetings? Since when does Tony know what is best for McDaniels career? Since when does Tony know what is best for McDaniels family? You think McDaniels kids give 2 craps what Tony thinks? Lol Edited February 7, 2018 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: And the point of that is? Who cares what Tony Dungy thingks? You think he has any more info than you, me or anyone else? Trust me, he doesn't. Since when does Tony know what NE offered him in those meetings? Since when does Tony know what is best for McDaniels career? Since when does Tony know what is best for McDaniels family? You think McDaniels kids give 2 craps what Tony thinks? Lol You're really gonna die on this hill, alone and in the rain? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: You're really gonna die on this hill, alone and in the rain? Edited February 7, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That the dude from Broadchurch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Cmdjr85 said: Lol your all salty because mcdaniels is staying in new england and that is bad news for you. Thats the only explanation for a 15 page thread ob a topic that has nothing to do with the bills. It’s you’re not your. Douche move. The Patriot way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 25 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: And the point of that is? Who cares what Tony Dungy thingks? You think he has any more info than you, me or anyone else? Trust me, he doesn't. Since when does Tony know what NE offered him in those meetings? Since when does Tony know what is best for McDaniels career? Since when does Tony know what is best for McDaniels family? You think McDaniels kids give 2 craps what Tony thinks? Lol Your opinion is uninformed and you are taking the most ludicrous and holier-than-thou stand I've seen on here for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdjr85 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Didn't every team other than Cleveland win at least 2 games this year? Way to set the bar high! 2018 is a new season, and playing buffalo = 2 easy wins every year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Commsvet11 said: Bypassing the Rooney rule that way, you would be correct, so long as that language is written in the contract, probably part of the sweetening of his contract, mentioned earlier. Now what is convenient is this happens just right before he is to start HC for the colts, I mean could the Pats organization could have renegotiated his contract anytime, so why did they wait until the last minute? That I can't answer. Only one truly knows that is Kraft. My GUESS is BB told him late that his end date was X.. and Kraft wanted a successor in place to keep the organization going like it is. (I feel he is trying to make it like the Steelers where they are always good with few years of truly bad) 4 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: they were so intelligent and krafty that they traded JimmG for pennies on the dollar!!! How dumb was that??!!! Not every decision going be awesome! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I believe Pagano is still available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Pimpin' Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 No one has to honor a verbal commitment. But most men with honor do. I think it is safe to say, based on all reporting, that there was a verbal commitment made by McDaniels to the Colts. Unfortunately for the Colts(or fortunately), I think it is safe to say, based on all reporting, that McDaniels is a douchebag with very little honor. He was a known to be douchy at Denver, douchy at St. Louis and he comes off as douchy at NE. Douchebagery is not a great quality for a head coach but you can get away with it as an OC. Belichek is a dick but not a douchebag. Big difference in my book. McDaniels as head coach of NE is good for the Bills and can't come soon enough. This will go down as another decision that will lead to the downfall of the Patriot dynasty. I'm confident of it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bills Pimpin' said: No one has to honor a verbal commitment. But most men with honor do. I think it is safe to say, based on all reporting, that there was a verbal commitment made by McDaniels to the Colts. Unfortunately for the Colts(or fortunately), I think it is safe to say, based on all reporting, that McDaniels is a douchebag with very little honor. He was a known to be douchy at Denver, douchy at St. Louis and he comes off as douchy at NE. Douchebagery is not a great quality for a head coach but you can get away with it as an OC. Belichek is a dick but not a douchebag. Big difference in my book. McDaniels as head coach of NE is good for the Bills and can't come soon enough. This will go down as another decision that will lead to the downfall of the Patriot dynasty. I'm confident of it. Yep. nothing to show he’s a good HC and Brady will either be gone, on his way out, or suspended for his ARod/Benjamin Button crap that he’s taking Edited February 8, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: That I can't answer. Only one truly knows that is Kraft. My GUESS is BB told him late that his end date was X.. and Kraft wanted a successor in place to keep the organization going like it is. (I feel he is trying to make it like the Steelers where they are always good with few years of truly bad) All of this transpired after McDaniels committed to Indy, hired coaches, and then reneged? Seems sudden. After all, it was pretty much known since the regular season ended that McDaniels was going to be hired by the Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, May Day 10 said: i wonder if Belichick staying another year or 2 hinged on Kraft being able to give McDaniels what he wanted. BB was fairly close to the vest until after the Superbowl, then told Kraft to keep his OC, and he will remain (and likely pass the steering wheel off for 2019 or 2020)... which is what caused the late push Good questions. Belicheck had said in several news outlets at the time of the "Patriots rift" article that he would be back. I got nothing, but I'll speculate like the rest of us. Suppose BB wants to hang up his cleats after notching one more Superbowl win. He's keeping it close, but that's one reason he's doing stuff he hasn't before like helping his assistants prep for HC interviews. Facing the Eagles backup QB, the guy that wasn't good enough for them 3 years ago, he has to feel fairly good about their chances. One more championship, then he'll leave on top of his game. Their offense sets records. Only their defense gets shredded, and it isn't enough. So they fall short, and Belichick doesn't want to leave on that note. He's perfectly happy for Patricia to move on to Detroit. In fact, if Patricia weren't quitting, he might get fired. The D needs to get fixed, and fixed now. Belichick wants to give it the lions share of his 2018 attention. Only there's a problem .... he's also losing his right-hand OC. So he goes to Kraft and says "make it worth his while to stay, so I can focus on D and bring you the championship you deserved." Edited February 8, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Yep. nothing to show he’s a good HC and Brady will either be gone, on his way out, or suspended for his ARod/Benjamin Button crap that he’s taking If Luck is healthy, he might be better off with the crazy owner. Because he’s probably not going to get Brady while Brady is still worth having. As many people have been saying, don’t underestimate the power of family in these decisions. I get the honor part, but I hope I always do the best thing for the family. Now, I’d have to figure that out on the front end first........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 47 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Your opinion is uninformed and you are taking the most ludicrous and holier-than-thou stand I've seen on here for a while. Lmao, yup. And I guess yours is so informed lol. What a weird statement, but all good. It’s a total pet peeve of mine when people expect players or coaches to bend to the will of the very owners who cast them aside and break their deals the moment they don’t feel they want to honor the contract anymore. NE made a better offer, that’s the Colts problem not McDaniels. This has actually been the most enjoyable thread in a while here for me at least. I’m slammed busy and keep getting sucked into it ha. Doesnt bother me others want to se it differently, but this is actually been a good thread. Mostly discussable responses even if on different sides and I harbor no ill will even though some want to slander me personally for seeing it differently, but I sure am not gonna change my stance on it because people want to jab at me lmao But I’m with everyone hating McDaniels, can’t stand him. Just don’t think making a better choice for his life was something he did wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 27 minutes ago, Bills Pimpin' said: No one has to honor a verbal commitment. But most men with honor do. I think it is safe to say, based on all reporting, that there was a verbal commitment made by McDaniels to the Colts. Unfortunately for the Colts(or fortunately), I think it is safe to say, based on all reporting, that McDaniels is a douchebag with very little honor. He was a known to be douchy at Denver, douchy at St. Louis and he comes off as douchy at NE. Douchebagery is not a great quality for a head coach but you can get away with it as an OC. Belichek is a dick but not a douchebag. Big difference in my book. McDaniels as head coach of NE is good for the Bills and can't come soon enough. This will go down as another decision that will lead to the downfall of the Patriot dynasty. I'm confident of it. Agree and withal the douche talk about McDaniels.................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commsvet11 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 What’s interesting to me Is when B.B. retires, New England loses a Head Coach AND General Manager correct? New England will have to find a GM who wants McDaniels to be head coach, that might cause limitations to the search, unless McDaniels becomes coach and GM, that’s a lot of confidence in one man. If McDaniels did this for his family I have a feeling he will have plenty of time to spend with them soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 How do the Colts sign assistants without signing the HC? Irsay is a clown. That franchise is in a blender. Total crap show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 6 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: Wow do a LITTLE research. The Rooney rule does not apply if their is a succession plan in place it is only in search for a new hire. So what you're saying is that Kraft* would rather pay McDaniels* enough money to make him renege on an employment commitment to a company AND renege on commitments he made to assistant coaches, some of which were already hired by Indy, so the Pats* could avoid hiring a minority head coach? I can see that. Totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Cmdjr85 said: 2018 is a new season, and playing buffalo = 2 easy wins every year Too bad your team couldn't beat a backup QB when it mattered 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: You're really gonna die on this hill, alone and in the rain? He's not the only person with the particular view. He changed his mind and did what was best for his family and himself. That's his prerogative. The contract was not signed. The Colts have every right to be upset. Their irritation is understandable and warranted. But let's not act as if with his change of mind the organization is going to be damaged. In the hiring process the organization puts a list together of good candidates. The Colts have the option of following their list or expanding their search. It's obvious that McDaniels was ambivalent about taking the change. So the Colts are fortunate that he withdraw before even more time went by or even worse hiring a coach who wasn't happy with not only with this coaching job but also with his family situation in this new location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 31 minutes ago, Commsvet11 said: What’s interesting to me Is when B.B. retires, New England loses a Head Coach AND General Manager correct? New England will have to find a GM who wants McDaniels to be head coach, that might cause limitations to the search, unless McDaniels becomes coach and GM, that’s a lot of confidence in one man. If McDaniels did this for his family I have a feeling he will have plenty of time to spend with them soon. Bellyache will be the GM. Or Kraft diciates it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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