prissythecat Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said: Realistic Bills options left: Minnesota's scraps Move up and throw away picks Stand pat for EJ Manuel/Peterman style pick EJ was only on a one year contract with the Raiders. He can probably be had for cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said: Realistic Bills options left: Minnesota's scraps Move up and throw away picks Stand pat for Manuel/Peterman style pick I'm bummed too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: He's not an unrestricted free agent until the period ends for the Redskins to franchise him. I think that's early March. Until then, he is exclusively Washington property. As others have said, he only can talk to other teams if the Redskins gave him permission, which may have happened. However, it's interesting that if Washington gave him permission, say, a week ago, that that information didn't leak out. I got educated on that point myself a couple days ago. Certainly, Washington can give Cousins and his agent permission to talk, and they can do a handshake deal to sign with Denver as soon as he becomes a FA. What doesn't make sense in all that is the talk about Talib and a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, prissythecat said: EJ was only on a one year contract with the Raiders. He can probably be had for cheap What I meant was a draft pick equivalent to the two players I mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, simool said: He is until 4pm March 6. That's what I thought and the purpose being giving the old team a chance to work out a deal if possible with the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Bray Wyatt said: Maybe I am missing something, maybe someone can help me out. The trade cant go through til the year opens correct? Once that happens, cousins is a FA right? How can they trade someone that is a FA? Nothing happens officially until the new league year begins. Until then there can only be off-the-record high level business meetings to set things in place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Nothing happens officially until the new league year begins. Until then there can only be off-the-record high level business meetings to set things in place. So they were meeting with SaviorPeterman then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: How can it be a sign-and-trade? Unless Washington does franchise Cousins and he agrees to sign and be traded? Cousins and Denver agree to a long-term deal. Washington and Denver agree to trade compensation. Washington signs him to the deal he worked out with Denver and trades him to Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I got educated on that point myself a couple days ago. Certainly, Washington can give Cousins and his agent permission to talk, and they can do a handshake deal to sign with Denver as soon as he becomes a FA. What doesn't make sense in all that is the talk about Talib and a trade. This makes no sense. So any player who is a free agent come March can be traded by the team they played for last year before March? It defeats the purpose of free agency. Unless it is some kind of quirk with players who played under the franchise tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: When he gets out of his high level business meetings, we will get the real scoop from his west coast sources And by high level, he means the meeting at the back of the school bus where they get stoned and talk football n girls they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I got educated on that point myself a couple days ago. Certainly, Washington can give Cousins and his agent permission to talk, and they can do a handshake deal to sign with Denver as soon as he becomes a FA. What doesn't make sense in all that is the talk about Talib and a trade. Being Washington's property until March means a trade scenario exists and in this case apparently a player for player deal. As others have said Washington must have given permission for Denver and Cousins to talk to know if the Bronco's can work a deal long term and if not just walk away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, prissythecat said: So they were meeting with SaviorPeterman then? He is rather well connected, so it seems likely. Can't wait for the next revealing thread with the specifics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Cousins and Denver agree to a long-term deal. Washington and Denver agree to trade compensation. Washington signs him to the deal he worked out with Denver and trades him to Denver. Compensation for what? Also, why would KC agree to this? 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: Being Washington's property until March means a trade scenario exists and in this case apparently a player for player deal. As others have said Washington must have given permission for Denver and Cousins to talk to know if the Bronco's can work a deal long term and if not just walk away. Why would Cousins do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Bray Wyatt said: Compensation for what? Also, why would KC agree to this? Trade compensation for Cousins (player/pick) KC doesn’t need to agree to anything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Trade compensation for Cousins (player/pick) KC doesn’t need to agree to anything KC = Kirk Cousins Why would he want to work out a deal with Denver before hitting FA? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: This makes no sense. So any player who is a free agent come March can be traded by the team they played for last year before March? It defeats the purpose of free agency. Unless it is some kind of quirk with players who played under the franchise tag. Maybe the Redskins threatened to tag him and gave him the Denver avenue as a way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Cousins and Denver agree to a long-term deal. Washington and Denver agree to trade compensation. Washington signs him to the deal he worked out with Denver and trades him to Denver. Wouldnt that eliminate any signing bonus? i suppose they could make it a roster bonus but then you couldn't amortize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Bray Wyatt said: KC = Kirk Cousins Why would he want to work out a deal with Denver before hitting FA? Oh lol thought you meant Chefs. I don’t know why he would ...but maybe he knows that’s where he wants to go, they want him, he doesn’t want to go through FA, and they are going to give him the money he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 It's just crazy that these "big" QB moves can happen before the super bowl is even played, yet Eric Wood couldn't officially retire because of some language in the CBA. Brutal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, RochesterRob said: Maybe the Redskins threatened to tag him and gave him the Denver avenue as a way out. It's a completely hollow threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, RochesterRob said: Maybe the Redskins threatened to tag him and gave him the Denver avenue as a way out. Would be an idle threat after the deal for Smith given their cap situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I already reported on this, but the Jets and Broncos are the front runners for the Cousins sweepstakes and at least from what I've heard the Jets are willing to back up the Brinks truck big time. If Denver does land him though it will be interesting to see what happens in the draft since they were rumored to be targeting one of the top guys (Rosen/Darnold). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Oh lol thought you meant Chefs. I don’t know why he would ...but maybe he knows that’s where he wants to go, they want him, he doesn’t want to go through FA, and they are going to give him the money he wants. No worries, but this doesnt add up to me. His gamble of playing under the franchise tag for two years and not signing a long term deal has paid off and he is about to hit FA. Now hes not going to test the waters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloRebound said: It's a completely hollow threat. Not the transition tag. That is a very real possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said: Realistic Bills options left: Minnesota's scraps Move up and throw away picks Stand pat for Manuel/Peterman style pick Also known as Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees kind of pick. Not sure why a fifth round flier like Peterman even factors in to the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, SaviorPeterman said: I already reported on this, but the Jets and Broncos are the front runners for the Cousins sweepstakes and at least from what I've heard the Jets are willing to back up the Brinks truck big time. If Denver does land him though it will be interesting to see what happens in the draft since they were rumored to be targeting one of the top guys (Rosen/Darnold). Talking out of your pooper is not reporting. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, simool said: Not the transition tag. That is a very real possibility. No it's not. They are not going to tie up $29M on their cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-broncos/Bolt/Colin-Cowherd-reports-Broncos-close-to-deal-with-Kirk-Cousins-114466121 Colin Cowherd 'reports' Broncos close to deal with Kirk Cousins No other reporter has corroborated Cowherd's claim, which has been refuted by a Broncos executive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: This makes no sense. So any player who is a free agent come March can be traded by the team they played for last year before March? It defeats the purpose of free agency. Unless it is some kind of quirk with players who played under the franchise tag. A FA can't be traded. That's the point. The team can give him permission to talk to another team and work out a contract before FA officially starts, but he can't be traded. If a trade is involved, Washington has to franchise tag him, that's the only think I can think of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 39 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I heard this is done deal as well as Mccarron to Browns. Not sure how the trade is going down with Denver but hearing it is a sign and trade and involves aqib Talib. McBeane are napping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 If Cousins goes to Denver the stars continue to align for the Bills to move up and get their guy -- particularly if the Giants/Barkley rumors are true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 I'm surprised. Why didn't they get him last year if they wanted him? This year they had a top 5 pick to get one of the QB's in the draft. When will they ever get to draft that high again? Seems like a waste of money to sign Cousins. Unless they still plan on taking Josh Allen and think he will need 4 yrs on the bench but that seems crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No it's not. They are not going to tie up $29M on their cap. That only happens if he signs it. I cannot see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 https://247sports.com/nfl/denver-broncos/Bolt/Report-Broncos-to-offer-Kirk-Cousins-very-high-guaranteed-contract-114438585 There is no "DEAL" in place just a lot of hear say and click bait... however its being reported that Denver is putting a lot of guarenteed money on the table come the time FA begins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said: I already reported on this, but the Jets and Broncos are the front runners for the Cousins sweepstakes and at least from what I've heard the Jets are willing to back up the Brinks truck big time. If Denver does land him though it will be interesting to see what happens in the draft since they were rumored to be targeting one of the top guys (Rosen/Darnold). lol.... it was common knowledge they would be the front runners for anyone that had sense or a tv..... you didn't "report" anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) I think Cowherd is a blowhard who throws out "in the know" stuff to try and get on the radar since his ratings tanked after leaving ESPN. Until Schefter or someone of his ilk is saying something it's BS. Just yesterday he tried to claim credit for the Clippers trading Blake Griffin because he "had heard through sources" that Lebron is going to LA. Edited January 31, 2018 by Chuck Wagon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 37 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Skipper!!!!! The city of Denver was named for one of Bob "Gilligan" Denver's ancestors. I think my hunch of Bradford if healthy to the Bills may be more and more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 30 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: Cousins had been destined for Denver for a while. He wants to play for a team that doesn't need much to become a winner. How is that Denver - they are picking 5th for a reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, simool said: That only happens if he signs it. I cannot see that happening. That money is committed once he's tagged. Signed or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: No worries, but this doesnt add up to me. His gamble of playing under the franchise tag for two years and not signing a long term deal has paid off and he is about to hit FA. Now hes not going to test the waters? I agree. However it’s possible that his agent has already tested the waters of the teams that he would want to play for, if the redskins allowed him to talk to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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