Billznut Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: I think he will be on the team next year regardless. Peterman will probably be here. But he has done nothing but hurt his chances when he’s had them this year. (5 picks, concussion, pick today). Was hopeful for him but geez Edited January 8, 2018 by Billznut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, Strethor said: I can't yell at a guy for throwing a "pick" to a jag who did not even catch the ball (hit ground) - while proceeding to commit 2-3 fouls (dunking the ball and taking off his helmet 30 yards worth of penalties) and having the league incorrectly ruling that against us. I don't understand the hate either, should probably hate the person who couldn't put the game away in 55min missing people all over the field in the process. I certainly can. That was a horrible decision to begin with, and the fact that it ended our season does not help. I think we all understand that Tyrod is not the long term answer. But anyone who thinks that Peterman has a serious hope of being an Upgrade is delusional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 No hate, but he’s not an NFL QB. When we draft one early that will demonstrate to you the OP who much “faith” Beane & McD have in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I don't hate him. I just don't think he will ever be a franchise QB. this team would be stupid to go into next season expecting him to be a starter. I don't think they are that stupid though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I mean he got put in with a minute left at 4th & 3 and no timeouts lol What the hell were people expecting? And Thompson should've come back towards that ball, that much is obvious. But really there was nothing he could do there short of a miracle that would've changed anyone's opinions on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 His interception today was purely a function of the ball simply not getting to the target fast enough. We've seen that before from him too. I question if he has enough raw arm strength to compete at the NFL level. Never mind all the other more intangible stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 59 minutes ago, BBills88 said: People act like the kid wasn't a 5th round pick. Let the kid get a off-season to work on his game. Yeah the LA game was a debacle, he played well in a blizzard. Give him time to develop. I'm not opposed to drafting another QB which their are no guarantees will be successful. I would love to see our qb room contain (Peterman, & Rudolph). I will bite. First, I do like Peterman since we drafted him, so nothing personal with him, but still got to be honest about what he is. Better question, why the Peterman love or defense of him? So far, all he did in preseason was complete a miserable 50% of his passes which is Tebow-esque bad, and worse yet that was while facing mostly guys who dont play or aren't even in the league anymore. Since then, he has 6 interceptions and hasn't even played a full game yet. The kid throws like a deer in headlights with pressure on him and doesn't have the arm strength to do that. Under no circumstances is a players career decided in such a small sample size, so it is unfair to say the kid has no career in the NFL. But, there is nothing...literally nothing...at all that he has put on tape that suggests he has starting potential at this point. Sure, the kid can surprise and come out swinging in camp, but up to now there is very little to get behind. Bills fans see a couple throws where he threw it fast on a quick drop back and go wow. Big deal, thats a standard play just about any QB should make...literally nothing special about doing that but Bills fan over exaggerate that into something bigger because they want anyone other than TT. At this point, Peterman is going to have to fight for a roster spot next year IMO. I like the kid, so hope he surprises, but right now he is an after thought without some kind of really big strides in the offseason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, BBills88 said: People act like the kid wasn't a 5th round pick. Let the kid get a off-season to work on his game. Yeah the LA game was a debacle, he played well in a blizzard. Give him time to develop. I'm not opposed to drafting another QB which their are no guarantees will be successful. I would love to see our qb room contain (Peterman, & Rudolph). I don't hate him, just don't understand all the love. Although it's not unusual to love the backup. Gary Marangi, dan manucci, joe dufek.... everyone thought the backups were better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: No hate, just apropos that the season ended on a Peterman int..... 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Indeed. 37 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It's because the defense can anticipate a quick throw with no fear of getting beat deep. All aboard the Peterman express train every time he throws a pick. He's not good. Guess we should have started him today. He can score more three points no ? Another no show from tentative ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 He just isn't good. There was a reason he went in the 5th Round. All NFL teams can't be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 His lack of arm strength was pretty apparent on that last pass. He's certainly got the mind and the character to play at this level but his arm isn't good enough. 2 minutes ago, Foreigner said: He just isn't good. There was a reason he went in the 5th Round. All NFL teams can't be wrong. Yea, everyone knows every successful QB is selected first overall... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said: There's a much better chance that Peterman is the Bills' starting QB in 2018 than Taylor. As long as the sum of both chances are >5%, I'm good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Guess we should have started him today. He can score more three points no ? Another no show from tentative ? Really how many passes did it take this time to throw his first pick? Like 1 or 2? Sure, I disagreed with the Refs on the ruling of an INT, but still was ruled by Refs under replay as an INT and it STILL counts. Plus, it was a terrible pass that was late and his arm is to weak to make that throw like that. So it was STILL a mistake by Peterman...yet again. 6 Interceptions and hasn't even played a full game yet. Not sure thats been done before. Edited January 8, 2018 by Alphadawg7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, BigDingus said: I mean he got put in with a minute left at 4th & 3 and no timeouts lol What the hell were people expecting? And Thompson should've come back towards that ball, that much is obvious. But really there was nothing he could do there short of a miracle that would've changed anyone's opinions on him. Pretty much this. In a weird way, it made the loss more palatable. Edited January 8, 2018 by stony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 14 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: His interception today was purely a function of the ball simply not getting to the target fast enough. We've seen that before from him too. I question if he has enough raw arm strength to compete at the NFL level. Never mind all the other more intangible stuff. ^^^^THIS^^^^ He can't spin the ball hard enough for the NFL, he won't make it. I was hopeful his arm strength would be better in the pros but it's not. He just can't make the throws. Frankly they should just cut him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 20 minutes ago, BigDingus said: I mean he got put in with a minute left at 4th & 3 and no timeouts lol What the hell were people expecting?And Thompson should've come back towards that ball, that much is obvious. But really there was nothing he could do there short of a miracle that would've changed anyone's opinions on him. With that excuse, I believe we now have excuses absolving peterman of all six of his INT's this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Really how many passes did it take this time to throw his first pick? Like 1 or 2? Sure, I disagreed with the Refs on the ruling of an INT, but still was ruled by Refs under replay as an INT and it STILL counts. Plus, it was a terrible pass that was late and his arm is to weak to make that throw like that. So it was STILL a mistake by Peterman...yet again. 6 Interceptions and hasn't even played a full game yet. Not sure thats been done before. So better or worse than 3 points ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 19 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: His interception today was purely a function of the ball simply not getting to the target fast enough. We've seen that before from him too. I question if he has enough raw arm strength to compete at the NFL level. Never mind all the other more intangible stuff. He doesn't carry a big gun but you do have to question the playcall (again). Throwing outside the numbers against an all pro DB with the game on the line? That spells trouble for lots of NFL QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, klos63 said: With that excuse, I believe we now have excuses absolving peterman of all six of his INT's this season. Considering it's been said by analysts and outlets reporting on the game, as well as professionals and players, it's not really disputable. Coupled with if you've played football from Middle School onwards it's pretty obvious. But yeah, the cornerback that was a couple yards behind the receiver somehow got the ball while the receiver who stood in place did not. Gee, if the corner could come towards the ball, how could the receiver not? Edited January 8, 2018 by BigDingus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 22 minutes ago, BigDingus said: I mean he got put in with a minute left at 4th & 3 and no timeouts lol What the hell were people expecting? And Thompson should've come back towards that ball, that much is obvious. But really there was nothing he could do there short of a miracle that would've changed anyone's opinions on him. All the receivers are used to running turning stopping and waiting for TT to pass. Faults imbred by playing with TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I'm ok with a competition involving Peterman, a vet and possible a mid to high draft pick. I think there's a chance that Peterman could be a decent player. Today was a pretty tough situation to be thrust into. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Why the Peterman hate? No hate .....he's just not an NFL QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Hopefully we’ll only have to worry about bad Nate and not bad TT and bad Nate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) Let's keep this thread going all off-season, this kid deserves it. We have to show Pegula that we believe in this kid. If this team just goes and drafts a top prospect, and cuts this kid, I will be up in arms. N way this kid deserves that kind of treatment. Edited January 8, 2018 by OJABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) Base in plays like this neither is Taylor (an NFL QB) Edited January 8, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I don’t know why anyone would hate Peterman. He’s not an NFL caliber QB, so I would certainly hate if the bills ever found themselves needing him to play a single snap at QB ever aqain..., but out side of that he sounds like a nice guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Considering it's been said by analysts and outlets reporting on the game, as well as professionals and players, it's not really disputable. Coupled with if you've played football from Middle School onwards it's pretty obvious. But yeah, the cornerback that was a couple yards behind the receiver somehow got the ball while the receiver who stood in place did not. Gee, if the corner could come towards the ball, how could the receiver not? again, absolution of every interception he's thrown. He's led a charmed life in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I don’t know why anyone would hate Peterman. He’s not an NFL caliber QB, so I would certainly hate if the bills ever found themselves needing him to play a single snap at QB ever aqain..., but out side of that he sounds like a nice guy He's a great kid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, OJABBA said: Let's keep this thread going all off-season, this kid deserves it. We have to show Pegula that we believe in this kid. If this team just goes and drafts a top prospect, and cuts this kid, I will be up in arms. N way this kid deserves that kind of treatment. Well you can always exit the thread. Nice avatar tho. There is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, klos63 said: again, absolution of every interception he's thrown. He's led a charmed life in the NFL. You are trying to apply games that don't matter, plays that don't matter, situations that don't matter, to this ONE situation. As if any of that is relevant... Again, wtf did you expect? TT already threw an INT in the game, do we say his INT is the same as every INT? No. It was specific to that situation. Minute left, offense hasn't done squat all game. 4th & 3 with no timeouts. Yes, he should've done so much more & had every advantage and opportunity in the world handed to him on a silver platter.... What a fool for not winning the game singlehandedly in a situation Tyrod is 3-22 in all time. Edited January 8, 2018 by BigDingus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, starrymessenger said: Well you can always exit the thread. Nice avatar tho. There is that. No way, this kid needs my support, and I don't give up on kids. And that avatar is NOT FOR KIDS! So don't let it distract you. Edited January 8, 2018 by OJABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, BigDingus said: You are trying to apply games that don't matter, plays that don't matter, situations that don't matter, to this ONE situation. As if any of that is relevant... Again, wtf did you expect? TT already threw an INT in the game, do we say his INT is the same as every INT? No. It was specific to that situation. I had no expectations , it was a nearly impossible situation. Difficult for a veteran QB, much more difficult for one that is not nearly NFL ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wily Dog Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) I believe that all of the TT trolls have spoken and it was the same old #hi# that we have heard before . No mention of the snow game , where NP suddenly had an arm that was able to complete passes in a snowstorm. Weak arm bull feathers. !!! He will be the starting QB next year and for all you trolls get a life. Edited January 8, 2018 by Wily Dog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, OJABBA said: No way, this kid needs my support, and I don't give up on kids. I can see you don't give up lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, klos63 said: I had no expectations , it was a nearly impossible situation. Difficult for a veteran QB, much more difficult for one that is not nearly NFL ready. He got 2 first downs on the drive with all odds stacked against them. You're right, he's not NFL ready to be a starter. But for anyone to EXPECT more from him at that point in the game is absurd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, BigDingus said: He got 2 first downs on the drive with all odds stacked against them. You're right, he's not NFL ready to be a starter. But for anyone to EXPECT more from him at that point in the game is absurd. We need a couple new QB's next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 He's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 48 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: His interception today was purely a function of the ball simply not getting to the target fast enough. We've seen that before from him too. I question if he has enough raw arm strength to compete at the NFL level. Never mind all the other more intangible stuff. Not going to blame him for an insane play by the CB. He probably underestimated how fast and hard the best CB in the NFL was going to close on that. Plus, the dude knocks it away and then catches it in midair? Who does that? A ridiculous play. Gotta just tip your hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: Not going to blame him for an insane play by the CB. He probably underestimated how fast and hard the best CB in the NFL was going to close on that. Plus, the dude knocks it away and then catches it in midair? Who does that? A ridiculous play. Gotta just tip your hat. This ain't Pitt. On to the draft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, BigDingus said: He got 2 first downs on the drive with all odds stacked against them. You're right, he's not NFL ready to be a starter. But for anyone to EXPECT more from him at that point in the game is absurd. Its actually not absurd. If he projects to be better than what we’ve got, where was any of it on display. He played quite poorly .... ... missed badly on open routes ... threw a sideline ball with not enough zip, not the first st pick from that ... I’ve seen him release a punt like toss over the middle of the field from for anyone to catch. — dive into a concussive hit. ( at a time it wasn’t needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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