Xwnyer Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 26 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said: It might be true , I like the kid he doesn’t have a lot of fans at obd. Beane has done an outstanding job of retooling our scouting department. He should bring back our Dunkirk native Tom gibbons. Tom was great so what things did Tom do that was so great. Is he your connection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, H2o said: Mayfield is the best QB in the draft imo. He is insanely accurate, sees the whole field (even at whatever height he may be), can make any throw to any part of the field, and can quickly process what he sees coverage wise to identify the open man. He's no Johnny Manziel. Can't wait to see him in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Recognize! ....awe struck!............ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: No buying it. Every fan boy has a board so do NFL teams. They certainly aren't set but they have a board. Believe what you wish, that’s cool. I’m offering the insight based on intimate knowledge of several facets of the scouting process, the sheer amount of data to be compiled, and the availability of those who need to make decisions based on that data. They don’t waste time constructing boards until the principals involved have the time to devote to that particular facet. It’s a ways off at the moment. But given I’m an anonymous poster in a forum on the internet, I fully understand your reluctance to believe that. And that is totally cool with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....where is the Rudolph kid in your assessment.... I don't have him in the top 3 of Rosen, Darnold and Baker but he sits in the second class with guys like Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen. I can see him going late first or in the second. He plays in a gimmicky offense which inflates stats but he is tough, has a good arm and good accuracy to multiple levels of the field can float some passes off his back foot on occasion which he needs to clear up but i would classify him as a rythem passer who can develop the skills to fit our offense we need someone who comes in the game in rythem and can get hot with few passing attempts Baker is #1 in that category for me. He comes into the game on fire and completely in rythem all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, RobH063 said: I've shoveled and shoveled and Shoveled. Then I helped my neighbors shovel. The rest of the time I'm not sleeping, I come here for free entertainment. When the weather breaks, I'll go make a new friend. Moving to Dunkirk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 17 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said: I guess what I have seen it technically not a draft board. It has everything a draft board has. Tangibles and intangibles, ratings etc. if it looks like a draft board and sounds like a draft board, it is a what? Some sheets of paper with scribbled names on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, RobH063 said: Some sheets of paper with scribbled names on it? In Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 21 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said: Dunkirk don needs to pack Why you aren't going anywhere. Don when did you get your GED? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Outside of Rosen and Darnold Baker Mayfield can operate a west coast NFL offense better than any other QB in the draft. Josh Allen cannot operate one right now Baker has a strong arm... don't know where people are sayIng below average... and he has outstanding accuracy and touch from the pocket If he is 6' tall which he should measure out at... the Bills would be dumb not to consider him with our 2nd first round pick He is miles ahead of Peterman , Josh Allen , Lamar Jackson and others He is also a 4 year starter If he's their starting QB of the future they'd be dumb to not take him with their 1st first round pick. They've never done that in 60 years of drafting but gotta' wise-up sooner or later, right? I've cited this a million times it seems but the Bills have picked eventual All Pros and future pro bowl non-QB's with their 1st picks in the first round a number of times during the drought..........and all they have to show for all of those picks this Sunday is rookie Tre'Davious White. (Shaq is the only other former Bills 1st rounder on the roster but I think most realize he's not a first round talent by now and have written that pick down to a 3rd or 4th rounder to ease the disappointment of watching him act like the snap is a "suggestion" that he should get upfield). You aren't vanquishing your roster by potentially wasting a pick on a franchise QB prospect.........get "the guy". Edited December 26, 2017 by BADOLBILZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: I don't have him in the top 3 of Rosen, Darnold and Baker but he sits in the second class with guys like Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen. I can see him going late first or in the second. He plays in a gimmicky offense which inflates stats but he is tough, has a good arm and good accuracy to multiple levels of the field can float some passes off his back foot on occasion which he needs to clear up but i would classify him as a rythem passer who can develop the skills to fit our offense we need someone who comes in the game in rythem and can get hot with few passing attempts Baker is #1 in that category for me. He comes into the game on fire and completely in rythem all the time ...NO way in hell am I buying Dubious Dunkirk and his surrender of most top line draft capital for Cousins with this OBD gang......I'd rather overpay for a beer than Cousins.....so in the interest of REASONABLE preservation of draft capital with the number of holes to fill and based on your positional assessment, Rudolph may be the pick, sensible but not sexy with developmental work to do?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: 9 minutes ago, RobH063 said: I've shoveled and shoveled and Shoveled. Then I helped my neighbors shovel. The rest of the time I'm not sleeping, I come here for free entertainment. When the weather breaks, I'll go make a new friend. Moving to Dunkirk? Maybe. I've always wanted to live near Walleye Willies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 3 hours ago, MarkAF43 said: Speaking for myself, I have a lot to do with my time, but I also need an escape from work so coming here and calling Don out on all of his BS is fun for me. Sure, boredom maybe, but someone who is going to come here and flaunt the fact that he and his friends are hacking the Bills and stealing and disseminating inside information doesn't sit well with me. If he really is doing it, well maybe it needed to be reported to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...NO way in hell am I buying Dubious Dunkirk and his surrender of most top line draft capital for Cousins with this OBD gang......I'd rather overpay for a beer than Cousins.....so in the interest of REASONABLE preservation of draft capital with the number of holes to fill and based on your positional assessment, Rudolph may be the pick, sensible but not sexy with developmental work to do?... Comon Man..... it would be the Billsy thing to do Mortgage the future and wind up in cap hell too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: If he's their starting QB of the future they'd be dumb to not take him with their 1st first round pick. They've never done that in 60 years of drafting but gotta' wise-up sooner or later, right? I've cited this a million times it seems but the Bills have picked eventual All Pros and future pro bowl non-QB's with their 1st picks in the first round a number of times during the drought..........and all they have to show for all of those picks this Sunday is rookie Tre'Davious White. (Shaq is the only other former Bills 1st rounder on the roster but I think most realize he's not a first round talent by now and have written that pick down to a 3rd or 4th rounder to ease the disappointment of watching him act like the snap is a "suggestion" that he should get upfield). You aren't vanquishing your roster by potentially wasting a pick on a franchise QB prospect.........get "the guy". I completely agree if he's your guy... you take him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 24 minutes ago, RobH063 said: That's code for: Donny, it's time for dinner. Yes Mommy More like... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 1 hour ago, RobH063 said: When you're dealing with this kind of weather for the past several days, what exactly would you like me to do? Help a neighbor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Help a neighbor? I'm retired. I help most of my neighbors. I already posted that I helped them shovel out. Edited December 26, 2017 by RobH063 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...NO way in hell am I buying Dubious Dunkirk and his surrender of most top line draft capital for Cousins with this OBD gang......I'd rather overpay for a beer than Cousins.....so in the interest of REASONABLE preservation of draft capital with the number of holes to fill and based on your positional assessment, Rudolph may be the pick, sensible but not sexy with developmental work to do?... I can see them taking Rudolph if their top guy is gone. He has some work to do so I don't think he is day1 , year1 starter material if he is the pick I hope the Bills have a vet he can learn from. But his physical talent is pretty dang good. and I like that he has an NFL body already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 20 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said: I guess what I have seen it technically not a draft board. It has everything a draft board has. Tangibles and intangibles, ratings etc. if it looks like a draft board and sounds like a draft board, it is a what? Agree I just know he will not be a buffalo bill Tangibles and intangibles? On the draft board? Really? I’m not sure what you saw, but it wasn’t a draft board. Those intangible profile aspects of a player won’t be weighed until several other boxes have been checked. Things like interviews with the players themselves, discussions with their coaches, background checks, etc. Heck, I’ve known high school teachers that were asked for character references about players in the past. It is just too early in the process at this time for any of this data to be compiled, let alone judged in assisting the construction of a draft board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 54 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said: If the deal falls through. This is all contigency planning for us at this time. Every team plays the what if scenarios. The redskins are doing it right know. What if we don’t sign cousins, etc. you just have to connect the dots He is not on our board. He is listed at 6 feet 1 in the guide but my source says he is under 6 feet tall with bad foot work and a below average armThe positives from the report is he is a winner, competitor, and smart You are so full of s***. Even if you had access to the draft board, which you don't and isn't even close to being completed, are you trying to say the Bills don't have a draftable grade on Mayfield? Not even a 7th rounder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: You are so full of s***. Even if you had access to the draft board, which you don't and isn't even close to being completed, are you trying to say the Bills don't have a draftable grade on Mayfield? Not even a 7th rounder? Hoping to sign him as a UDFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 18 minutes ago, RobH063 said: Some sheets of paper with scribbled names on it? No they are dots, and they have to be connected 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Dunkirk Don said: We were going to offer our two firsts, fourth and Glenn for cousins but wait...... pm tomorrow for the the most recent update on all the bills news. Debatable. Will be in Frederick Maryland tomorrow hoping to connect with a friend inLeesburg but he won’t confirm whether he wants to meet. Sounds c kinda of shady Sorry I had to shutdown my instant messenger but will have it back tomorrow We won’t overpay him and when you are unemployed qualifications go out the window. I am very worried about who will be calling our plays next year I will be pretty surprised if Downing takes the equivalent of an intern's role with the team after being an OC at the NFL level. Again I say: you could very well have a person feeding you info; some of the things they've told you make very little sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HappyDays Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dunkirk Don said: If we had cousins, we beat the jets and bengals and have 11wins at a minimum that is the thinking at obd. I don't know about the Jets but with Cousins I think we win Cincy, Carolina, maybe the first Patriots game too. I'm ok giving up both 1sts for him. That's the minimum of what it would cost to trade up for a completely unknown QB. I hope your info is right Don because I like the plan. 43 minutes ago, Finkle Is Einhorn said: Are we going after Star? Dunkirk Don said in one of the threads he is our top free agent priority. Edited December 26, 2017 by HappyDays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 11 minutes ago, K-9 said: Tangibles and intangibles? On the draft board? Really? I’m not sure what you saw, but it wasn’t a draft board. Those intangible profile aspects of a player won’t be weighed until several other boxes have been checked. Things like interviews with the players themselves, discussions with their coaches, background checks, etc. Heck, I’ve known high school teachers that were asked for character references about players in the past. It is just too early in the process at this time for any of this data to be compiled, let alone judged in assisting the construction of a draft board. Not to mention that apparently this scouting staff is the first ever to rate players from 0-100, and not from 1.0-9.0 or 1.0-8.0 as has been done for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I don't know about the Jets but with Cousins I think we win Cincy, Carolina, maybe the first Patriots game too. I'm ok giving up both 1sts for him. That's the minimum of what it would cost to trade up for a completely unknown QB. I hope your info is right Don because I like the plan. Dunkirk Don said in one of the threads he is our top free agent priority. ...BREAKING news!......we NEVER tap the Carolina Connection...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 2 hours ago, RobH063 said: When you're dealing with this kind of weather for the past several days, what exactly would you like me to do? Drink? What the hell's wrong with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Drink? What the hell's wrong with you? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Beer me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 22 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Not to mention that apparently this scouting staff is the first ever to rate players from 0-100, and not from 1.0-9.0 or 1.0-8.0 as has been done for decades. Scouts inc on ESPN is 0-100. Not that I put a ton of stock in what McShay says or anything.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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K-9 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 23 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Not to mention that apparently this scouting staff is the first ever to rate players from 0-100, and not from 1.0-9.0 or 1.0-8.0 as has been done for decades. Yeah, that really raised my antennae. There’s a reason the scale is kept minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, RobH063 said: Now that is A Level Trolling. Well done! Edited December 27, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 11 minutes ago, RobH063 said: WE HAVE A WINNER!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 12 minutes ago, RobH063 said: This may be the best thing ive ever seen posted on this forum. Fantastic work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Now thats A Level Trolling. Well done! and a well earned spot......damn I'm humbled....I thought my Fandom Urinal Recognition Plaque was a formidable accomplishment....flush it........... Edited December 26, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Just now, Dunkirk Don said: Rudolph is not coming to Buffalo. He is a low fifth round pick. We have him seventh. He is a project Obviously he is a project. but stop sayIng we... you are not part of the Bills and are spouting opinions He is much better than Nathan Peterman who we took in the fifth round he will go top 3 rounds guaranteed yours truly russ Brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said: We only think darnold is a first round talent. McDermott prefers a veteran quarterback and and Kirk Cousins is a top 10. Look at his stats. Name 10 quarterbacks with better stats over the last three years. Don’t bother , u cannot. Again he is just one option we have. We have a quarterback contigency plan. You wonder why McDermott favors cousins over a draft pick. Cousins is proven. How many first round quarterbacks never turn out. Tim couch, Ryan Leaf rick Meier, Brady Quinn, etc etc etc. we need a starter on day one. The bills will sign a proven quarterback all dots point in that direction from the information we can gather. He will not be drafted before the Firth round this is shard by many at obd He is a 3 year starter at a power 5 conference. Has improved yearly and has an NFL frame Blane Gabbert was drafted in the first round There is zero chance he lasts until whatever the heck the firth round is He is gone top 95 picks Edited December 27, 2017 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 21 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: This may be the best thing ive ever seen posted on this forum. Fantastic work. 21 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: 33 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Now thats A Level Trolling. Well done! and a well earned spot......damn I'm humbled....I thought my Fandom Urinal Recognition Plaque was a formidable accomplishment....flush it........... Thank you, Thank you very much. Just doing my part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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