RobH063 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said: Thread shutting down Was it something I said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Maybe mommy took his phone away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Teddy Bridgwater... who I will admit I loved... fell because he was barely 6'2 214 LBs with small hands and average arm strength his frame was very narrow. That pretty much made him fall out of the top 10-15 regardless Trubisky is a much bigger 6'2 with a much better frame and I was shocked when Chicago traded up for him Did not like Bridgewater , but love Baker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 59 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Now that's false. i have been around the game my whole life. Grew up in a press box, seen it from a players, coaches and scouts perspective nobody changes a QB grade based on a pro day except A bad organization... QB is the one position you grade solely based on game film not pro days and combines So the Browns will take him #1? Maybe he has good table manners and a firm handshake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: Did not like Bridgewater , but love Baker. I like him too but I don't think he fits McDermotts mold of the type of player he wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 55 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said: Last post. See ya. Pm me Again? 23 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said: Thread shutting down Again? Can't imagine why anyone here would think you're just a mouthy attention-whore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Did not like Bridgewater , but love Baker. Baker may be short, but it appears he’s pretty stout. That’s worth something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, RobH063 said: I like him too but I don't think he fits McDermotts mold of the type of player he wants Don't see why not. If they are looking for tough dedicated guys he's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, Augie said: Baker may be short, but it appears he’s pretty stout. That’s worth something. He can have quite a temper, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, DC Tom said: He can have quite a temper, though. Maybe he just had a bad case of jock itch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: 2 minutes ago, RobH063 said: I like him too but I don't think he fits McDermotts mold of the type of player he wants Don't see why not. If they are looking for tough dedicated guys he's it. I was referring more to his off field incident or his crotch grab. His toughness and grit on the football field would be exactly right. Does one area outweigh the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Just now, Augie said: Maybe he just had a bad case of jock itch? No...just that you should hear him shout when he gets all steamed up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Did not like Bridgewater , but love Baker. I like Baker Mayfield a lot. I was skeptical before the season but I was lucky enough to see him in Norman and I changed He has high level football IQ and plays the game it should be played. With passion If he was 6'4 he would pass Darnold and Rosen as the top prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Augie said: Baker may be short, but it appears he’s pretty stout. That’s worth something. His height is not a concern for me, I agree he is stout enough, bottom line is he can play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Major Dunkirk if I had one guess at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, RobH063 said: I was referring more to his off field incident or his crotch grab. His toughness and grit on the football field would be exactly right. Does one area outweigh the other? That off field stuff seems pretty low level to me. His play out weighs that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: His height is not a concern for me, I agree he is stout enough, bottom line is he can play. Oh, come on people. These "Little Teapot" references are really unintentional??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: That off field stuff seems pretty low level to me. His play out weighs that. I agree but with McDermott's religious belief system, you just never know what will sour someone's view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I like Baker Mayfield a lot. I was skeptical before the season but I was lucky enough to see him in Norman and I changed He has high level football IQ and plays the game it should be played. With passion If he was 6'4 he would pass Darnold and Rosen as the top prospects Agree 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, DC Tom said: No...just that you should hear him shout when he gets all steamed up... I can’t hear him, and I can’t read his lips because apparently there is a foggy storm front covering his mouth on network TV. Strange, indeed! I don’t know what to make of him. Apparently those around him love him, but everyone else hates him. Not sure what’s more important, interviews with him or everyone else he’s ever encountered. I am intrigued by the amount of love he gets from some pretty smart evaluators, but I can’t have an opinion without some clue about the person. There’s a guy on my college hoops team the whole world hates, except his teammates and fans. Hard to say... But his spout appear adequate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: I like Baker Mayfield a lot. I was skeptical before the season but I was lucky enough to see him in Norman and I changed He has high level football IQ and plays the game it should be played. With passion If he was 6'4 he would pass Darnold and Rosen as the top prospects I just don't understand why the Scouts, Coaches and GM's put so much emphasis on a QB's height. If Drew Brees was 6'4" would that mean instead of having thrown for more than 70,000 yards he would have thrown for over 100,000? Instead of throwing nearly 500 touchdown passes, would he have thrown for 700? It's idiotic. Edited December 27, 2017 by RobH063 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, RobH063 said: I agree but with McDermott's religious belief system, you just never know what will sour someone's view He deals with unbelievers every day, he will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Augie said: I can’t hear him, and I can’t read his lips because apparently there is a foggy storm front covering his mouth on network TV. Strange, indeed! I don’t know what to make of him. Apparently those around him love him, but everyone else hates him. Not sure what’s more important, interviews with him or everyone else he’s ever encountered. I am intrigued by the amount of love he gets from some pretty smart evaluators, but I can’t have an opinion without some clue about the person. There’s a guy on my college hoops team the whole world hates, except his teammates and fans. Hard to say... Usually if you are the guy who every opposing team hates and the opposing fans hate then you are probably pretty damn good and they hate playing you being despised by opposing teams and fans is an honor because they usually don't hate scrubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: He deals with unbelievers every day, he will be fine. Just like Dunkirk Don HAHAHAHA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, RobH063 said: I just don't understand why the Scouts, Coaches and GM's put so much emphasis on a QB's height. If Drew Brees was 6'4 would that mean instead of having thrown for more than 70,000 yards he would have thrown for over 100,000? Instead of throwing nearly 500 touchdown passes, would he have thrown for 700? It's idiotic. Well there is stats behind it. Over a century of football there has been ample time to see what the prototype QB looks like... just like the Prototype 3 technique If you are drafting top 10 you can't miss... and the fact is that no QB under 6'2 has been drafted in the top 10 in the last 20 years and been successful besides Michael Vick. he was the outlier, the exception not the rule so Baker Mayfield is not a safe top 5 pick according to stats but I would pull the trigger on him in the first Drew Brees is one of the greatest QBs ever, he changed the game. He is easily worth a #1 pick but he is also an anomaly Edited December 27, 2017 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Well there is stats behind it. Over a century of football there has been ample time to see what the prototype QB looks like... just like the Prototype 3 technique If you are drafting top 5 you can't miss... and the fact is that no QB under 6'2 has been drafted in the top 5 in the last 20 years and been successful besides Michael Vick. he was the outlier, the exception not the rule so Baker Mayfield is not a safe top 5 pick according to stats but I would pull the trigger on him in the first Drew Brees is one of the greatest QBs ever, he changed the game. He is easily worth a #1 pick but he is also an anomaly You're right and people much smarter than me have studied this until their eyes bleed but maybe, just maybe they shouldn't put so much stock into a couple of inches in height. I don't mean comparing a QB that's 5'10" to a QB that's 6'5". I mean is there really that much difference between a 6'1" QB like Mayfield and any other QB that's 6'3" or taller? At what height does it no longer matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dunkirk Don said: No soup for you you are off my response list and stop pm me Heck ya. Most of the scouts wanted juju not jones. Overruled The scouts who got fired the next day? They don’t set the draft board, Whaley and Monos did. McD ran the draft and surely preferred Zay. But, so did Beane. Or at least he didn’t prefer juju. Because he was there when Carolina picked, and he took Curtis Samuel. He may well have preferred Zay over both, since Buffalo traded above them to take him and the Panthers had scouted him heavily leaning up to the draft. So,who exactly currently working at OBD is mad that they got overruled? The guys who are no longer there, or the guys who weren’t there yet? It makes no sense that it would be either group. Edited December 27, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, RobH063 said: Just like Dunkirk Don HAHAHAHA I'll bet McDermott doesn't threaten to close the locker room and go away every day, though. Or maybe he does...wait a minute, what if Dunkirk Don IS McDermott? 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The scouts who got fired the next day? They don’t set the draft board, Whaley and Monos did. McD ran the draft and surely preferred Zay. But, so did Beane. Or at least he didn’t prefer juju. Because he was there when Carolina picked, and he took Curtis Samuel. so, who exactly currently working at OBD is mad that they got overruled? The guys no longer there or the guys who weren’t there yet? It makes no sense that it would be either group. I believe Dunkirk Don's response to this is: UNBELIEVER! KILL THE HERETIC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: I'll bet McDermott doesn't threaten to close the locker room and go away every day, though. Or maybe he does...wait a minute, what if Dunkirk Don IS McDermott? He could be. He uses "we" and "our" and awful lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, RobH063 said: You're right and people much smarter than me have studied this until their eyes bleed but maybe, just maybe they shouldn't put so much stock into a couple of inches in height. I don't mean comparing a QB that's 5'10" to a QB that's 6'5". I mean is there really that much difference between a 6'1" QB like Mayfield and any other QB that's 6'3" or taller? At what height does it no longer matter? You are correct and I have adjusted my way of looking at players over the years I have asked myself that dozens of times... what's the difference between Baker at 6'0 and Derek Carr at 6'3... is it that substantial? i have came to the conclusion it all comes down to the individual and how he sees the field... You can be 6'5 and not be able to process it or you can be 6'0 like Baker or Brees and be able to see it and process it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, RobH063 said: He could be. He uses "we" and "our" and awful lot Dunkirk Don does seem like the kind of guy who would keep playing Tolbert, just to prove that yes, he does know more than everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Short people have no reason..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, RobH063 said: He could be. He uses "we" and "our" and awful lot He also refers to himself in the 3rd person. So he suffers from multiple personality disorder or he's just a douchebag. Which do you think it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Dunkirk Don does seem like the kind of guy who would keep playing Tolbert, just to prove that yes, he does know more than everyone else. I was just sure he was going to pick up that 2nd and 25, if everyone else left for halftime or the plane ride home. In fact, he’d probably be approaching the goal line now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, H2o said: He also refers to himself in the 3rd person. So he suffers from multiple personality disorder or he's just a douchebag. Which do you think it is? RobH063 isn't sure but he thinks it's probably the latter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 3 hours ago, RobH063 said: Just had to bump this ICYMI. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, RobH063 said: RobH063 isn't sure but he thinks it's probably the latter. Buffalo716 Approves of this message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 28 minutes ago, H2o said: He also refers to himself in the 3rd person. So he suffers from multiple personality disorder or he's just a douchebag. Which do you think it is? Crap Throwing Monkey thinks its the former. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobH063 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Can you have multiple personality disorder AND be a douchebag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 25 minutes ago, H2o said: He also refers to himself in the 3rd person. So he suffers from multiple personality disorder or he's just a douchebag. Which do you think it is? Don seems to be a suffering pathalogical liar. And a douchebag. He exhibits all the signs of both. He needs mental help ASAP. He has backed himself into too many corners. Actually he did that on his 1st. post. What is truly amazing is the (shrinking) number of people that still buy his schtick. A very entertaining thread though. A true holiday gift That keeps on giving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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