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50 minutes ago, dlonce said:

 

I don’t believe he’s biased,just my opinion based on the fact he’s pumped a lot of money into the downtown area.

Downtown Buffalo is going to be difficult property wise. They would have to apply eminent domain to get the needed property to house a new stadium.

 

These are facts:

There are properties with ample area in Lancaster and north of Buffalo to make this work. These properties have been made public previously. The property in Niagara Falls was purchased immediately after Pegula bought the team. The property is useless as it stands but a major investment was made because the developer who purchased has an inside track to State politicians.I believe it’s Howard Millstein.

Pegula owns the team but he had a lot of help with securing his bid,through NY politicians. The state wants the stadium near Buffalo,that’s why they helped. It’s never,ever going to Batavia or that Far East of Buffalo.

 

Pegula has been buying up Perry street property like candy ....   Between Pegula Entertainment + the city.   They almost own the entire space between the arena and the casino.   

 

Also.  the HSBC building in front of the arena,  is up for sale + parking lots around it.   HSBC is trying to get rid of that place.  I have heard that building is falling apart and poorly maintained.   HSBC wants to move the jobs there to the suburbs and sell.   

 

Also, Pegula is investing in a building right in that area too for the Labbott Blue Brewery, offices, and residential.      THEN add in the hofbrauhaus  or what ever its called near the Creamery.     WHY the heck would a pretty well know german beer chain go from building on canalside (which they didnt want to pay the utilizes for) to building in the middle of no where city wise with nothing else around it?      

 

ALL signs point to downtown.    Not Batavia.     

 

If Pegula wants and open air stadium and Buffalo wants a dome .... simply build a retractable roof stadium for year around usage.    Bills games the roof can be open for all games with the exception of Thunderstorms and Buffalo can use the stadium year around for concerts,  motocross, high school football, college football (maybe UB), and many more events. 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=florida+marlins+stadium&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjP_8aKgIrYAhVLQCYKHdKtA78Q_AUICygC&biw=1366&bih=637#imgrc=W6EW6GPg02z8xM:

 

Marlins stadium is a good example of a retractable roof stadium that works for Buffalo.      The roof is completely off the field / stadium and you still get an outdoor feeling.    Open up both endzones with glass with some seats like cowboys stadium to get the wind factor.      BOOOOOOM  problem solved.     It can snow and be cold and yet close that stadium up for other events. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said:

IMO, a "rift", "disagreement", or whatever you want to call it, isn't as much of an issue (happens in every workplace environment) as internal information being leaked out to the public is. I get that this is just speculation, but it's being relayed as if it is not, and if accurate, the real issue is that someone inside OBD cannot keep quiet, and that's not good for any organization, especially a sports franchise (and especially so, this franchise, that's trying to rise up from the depths of obscurity).

This is completely on target.  However, it is entertaining.  I doubt it's true, btw, but who knows for sure?

19 minutes ago, Mango said:

If we are going to roll the dice on a player fully recovering from injury. I want it to be a guy like Cordy. Drafted by us, played at a very high level, franchise LT. I am willing to eat the cap space, and possibly look for his replacement. 

 

The draft pick is nice, but we are creating holes, that need to be filled with that draft pick or FA. Pay Cordy another year or so.  Move Dawkins to RT, Cordy to LT, and we are in a better spot. If it does not pan out, we are in a slightly worse position/the same place we are now with Dawkins at LT and still a need to overhaul the right side of the line.  I mean what is the real value here. Trading Cordy for a rookie RG? Depth at LB or DT?

 

If I trade my "starting" left tackle, even if there is some concern about longevity, I am still rolling the dice with status of my franchise.  I need more than a draft pick that will be used on depth/a guy that might be out of the league in 3 years. I need a guy that will be with my franchise for the next 3-5 years as a starter. Not super star, but starter.  

 

Only way I trade Glenn is if I am certain Dawkins can play LT and Glenn is the added piece that gets me Rosen or Darnold.

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22 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

How do you know this?  He's never been responsible for making player personnel decisions before.  There's a big difference between being an assist and being the guy in charge.  The 2 big player personnel moves that can be attributed to him in Buffalo were the Watkins and Benjamin trades, neither of which suggests he's close to being "the smartest guy in the room".  Watkins has not only stayed healthy in LA but he's repeatedly helped insure that that 2nd rounder the Bills got for him will be at the end of the 2nd round not at the beginning.  Benjamin has a history of knee problems, was hurt when the Bills traded for him, and has been hurt most of the time he's been here.

 

Geez, chill man.  It's my opinion based on what I've researched about him after he was hired and when I've listened to him in interviews.  Obviously I don't know this as 100% fact.  I've never met the man.    And I like Sammy, but on a very potent offense he has 34 rec. for 549 yards.  That's puts him way down the list and as you mentioned he's been relatively healthy.  For comparison, even Marquise Goodwin has 41 for 783.  It amazes me that any decent WR we have in Buffalo is constantly hurt or nursing some nagging injury. 

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8 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

This is completely on target.  However, it is entertaining.  I doubt it's true, btw, but who knows for sure?

Only way I trade Glenn is if I am certain Dawkins can play LT and Glenn is the added piece that gets me Rosen or Darnold.

it would have to be a very small piece.  how much value can he have.  this issue is stretching thru two seasons 

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Just now, baskingridgebillsfan said:

it would have to be a very small piece.  how much value can he have.  this issue is stretching thru two seasons 

If he can't get healthy, maybe he's just done as a player.  In that case, he obviously has no trade value and will just be a large cap hit going forward.

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15 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

The sam Bradford thing sealed it for me as bogus.  No sane GM would be thinking of throwing more millions into the Sam Bradford garbage disposal.

 

And who is buying up property around a proposed stadium?  For private parking lots? Another strip mall?

As I said elsewhere, Bradford has looked like an elite starter in his last few full-game starts. His last three games:

 

34/50 for 382 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs, 110.6 rating

 

25/33 for 250 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT, 114.5 rating

 

27/32 for 346 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs, 143.0 rating

 

He is a good player at this point in his career. However, his knee is a scarred-over mess of spaghetti. That's the issue with him, not his talent or performance. If the knee somehow ends up being OK, he can be a high end starter. But given the history of that knee, it is simply too much of risk to invest in. 

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28 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Could Tonawanda Terry get in on it?  or Amherst Al? 

 

Tonowanda Terry is making a big name for himself after destroying Williamsville Will.  Tonowanda Terry probably gets his shot soon.

Amherst Al got popped for PED's.  He's suspended for 1 calendar year.  Look for a comeback fight with Alden Abe.

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1 minute ago, dave mcbride said:

As I said elsewhere, Bradford has looked like an elite starter in his last few full-game starts. His last three games:

 

34/50 for 382 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs, 110.6 rating

 

25/33 for 250 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT, 114.5 rating

 

27/32 for 346 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs, 143.0 rating

 

He is a good player at this point in his career. However, his knee is a scarred-over mess of spaghetti. That's the issue with him, not his talent or performance. If the knee somehow ends up being OK, he can be a high end starter. But given the history of that knee, it is simply too much of risk to invest in. 

2016 qb rating was a tick under 100.   He gets 10-15 million on a one year deal by somebody.   

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1 minute ago, baskingridgebillsfan said:

2016 qb rating was a tick under 100.   He gets 10-15 million on a one year deal by somebody.   

Somebody will indeed do this hence he will more likely get a 2-3 year deal (competition for his services) . Best case for a QB-starved team is to sign Bradford and draft

a franchise QB. Rookie holds clipboard for 1-2 years.

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8 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

It all depends on his knee. 

 

 

 

"Believe his ACL is intact?"  What, the Easter Bunny just ain't doin' it for them anymore?

27 minutes ago, teef said:

why don't you guys check out my source...(pointing to my junk).

 

I thought the antibiotics cleared that up?

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1 hour ago, yungmack said:

You do know corporations are the main issuers of bonds, right?

 

Which NFL stadiums have been financed via issuance of corporate bonds?

1 hour ago, PaattMaann said:

 

not saying he is right, but businesses can sell bonds as well as the gov't 

 

so in this case, the bond would likely be from the bills or pegula ent.

 See above

 

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There is so much juicy stuff in here.  A few of my quick thoughts:

 

1)   I'm going to assume that the info is "true" in the sense that it genuinely reflects what DD was told by someone who claims to be connected to insiders.  Whether that makes it factually true or not, time will tell - and inasmuch as much of it involves predicting events that will happen, obviously things can change and DD has admitted as much.

 

2)   To the numerous posters making wisecracks, pointing to their "junk," questioning the bona fides of DD, etc., I'm going to do you all a favor.  Since self-awareness is probably the rarest quality in all of humanity, I'm going to tell each of you something about yourself that, given the tone and content of your posts, you probably aren't aware of: you are a jerk.  Your co-workers think you're a jerk and say as much behind your backs.  Some of your family and friends even think you're a jerk.  You find yourself funny but other people don't, even if they pretend to in order to be nice or because you're their boss and they don't want to upset you.  But make no mistake, you're a jerk.

 

3)   I love that there are leaks within OBD concerning highly sensitive stuff such as where the new stadium is likely to be built, a rift between McD and Beane, and thoughts about personnel at the most important positions - BUT when it comes to Dennison, the lid goes back on.  So Billsy, that.

 

4)   Sounds like the bizarre, semi-horizontal front office structure that the Pegulas for some reason insist on maintaining is already, and once again, causing dysfunction.  It is incredible to me that they have not learned their lesson by now.

 

5)   I don't doubt that McD is already wearing thin with some of the players and staff.  He set himself up for this: if you come in as a first-time HC, tear out the video game systems, and bench and trade away respected veteran talent, you sure as heck better win games.  He's won some, but not enough to justify all of those changes.

 

6)  I don't know who the KC player is and wouldn't be able to speculate on that, but I also wouldn't be surprised if Alex Smith becomes a target in the offseason assuming KC goes younger at that position.

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37 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

As I said elsewhere, Bradford has looked like an elite starter in his last few full-game starts. His last three games:

 

34/50 for 382 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs, 110.6 rating

 

25/33 for 250 yards, 3 TDs, 1 INT, 114.5 rating

 

27/32 for 346 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs, 143.0 rating

 

He is a good player at this point in his career. However, his knee is a scarred-over mess of spaghetti. That's the issue with him, not his talent or performance. If the knee somehow ends up being OK, he can be a high end starter. But given the history of that knee, it is simply too much of risk to invest in. 

 

Last three games?  Come on!  Why not just try for Nick Foles who had a whole season where he looked elite!

 

In the few full season's he has played, Bradford is good for 20 +/- Tds and 13+/- ints.  He's never been elite. He's broken and can't be fixed.  He will never paly a full season again.  What else does he have to do to prove this to you at this point?

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4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

There is so much juicy stuff in here.  A few of my quick thoughts:

 

1)   I'm going to assume that the info is "true" in the sense that it genuinely reflects what DD was told by someone who claims to be connected to insiders.  Whether that makes it factually true or not, time will tell - and inasmuch as much of it involves predicting events that will happen, obviously things can change and DD has admitted as much.

 

2)   To the numerous posters making wisecracks, pointing to their "junk," questioning the bona fides of DD, etc., I'm going to do you all a favor.  Since self-awareness is probably the rarest quality in all of humanity, I'm going to tell each of you something about yourself that, given the tone and content of your posts, you probably aren't aware of: you are a jerk.  Your co-workers think you're a jerk and say as much behind your backs.  Some of your family and friends even think you're a jerk.  You find yourself funny but other people don't, even if they pretend to in order to be nice or because you're their boss and they don't want to upset you.  But make no mistake, you're a jerk.

 

3)   I love that there are leaks within OBD concerning highly sensitive stuff such as where the new stadium is likely to be built, a rift between McD and Beane, and thoughts about personnel at the most important positions - BUT when it comes to Dennison, the lid goes back on.  So Billsy, that.

 

4)   Sounds like the bizarre, semi-horizontal front office structure that the Pegulas for some reason insist on maintaining is already, and once again, causing dysfunction.  It is incredible to me that they have not learned their lesson by now.

 

5)   I don't doubt that McD is already wearing thin with some of the players and staff.  He set himself up for this: if you come in as a first-time HC, tear out the video game systems, and bench and trade away respected veteran talent, you sure as heck better win games.  He's won some, but not enough to justify all of those changes.

 

6)  I don't know who the KC player is and wouldn't be able to speculate on that, but I also wouldn't be surprised if Alex Smith becomes a target in the offseason assuming KC goes younger at that position.

 

I’l ask my wife and kids tonight, while at the dinner table, if they think I’m as much of a jerk as Coach Tuesday thinks I am.

 

Thanks, coach. Now I have a complex.

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9 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Which NFL stadiums have been financed via issuance of corporate bonds?

 See above

 

 

I have no idea which stadiums, It wasn't my idea, I was just saying that bonds dont ONLY come from the government....corporations/businesses are allowed to issue bonds as well

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6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Last three games?  Come on!  Why not just try for Nick Foles who had a whole season where he looked elite!

 

In the few full season's he has played, Bradford is good for 20 +/- Tds and 13+/- ints.  He's never been elite. He's broken and can't be fixed.  He will never paly a full season again.  What else does he have to do to prove this to you at this point?

As I said in two posts above (and elsewhere), his knee is too much of a risk. I thought that was clear. That being said, he played very well in 2016 despite having the worst running game I've seen in the past few years (32nd in both yards and YPA). He completed 71.6 percent of his passes, which is staggeringly high, had a 99+ rating, and he lit up a very good Saints team like an Xmas tree in game one this year. Players -- especially QBs -- often do get better over time assuming they have the requisite physical talent because they learn to deal with the complexity of the game. Bradford is one of those guys, at least in my view.  I also will reiterate that the Vikings' running game was historically terrible last season. 

 

But to repeat (which I apparently I need to do given your post above!), his knee would scare me off.

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10 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

There is so much juicy stuff in here.  A few of my quick thoughts:

 

1)   I'm going to assume that the info is "true" in the sense that it genuinely reflects what DD was told by someone who claims to be connected to insiders.  Whether that makes it factually true or not, time will tell - and inasmuch as much of it involves predicting events that will happen, obviously things can change and DD has admitted as much.

 

2)   To the numerous posters making wisecracks, pointing to their "junk," questioning the bona fides of DD, etc., I'm going to do you all a favor.  Since self-awareness is probably the rarest quality in all of humanity, I'm going to tell each of you something about yourself that, given the tone and content of your posts, you probably aren't aware of: you are a jerk.  Your co-workers think you're a jerk and say as much behind your backs.  Some of your family and friends even think you're a jerk.  You find yourself funny but other people don't, even if they pretend to in order to be nice or because you're their boss and they don't want to upset you.  But make no mistake, you're a jerk.

 

3)   I love that there are leaks within OBD concerning highly sensitive stuff such as where the new stadium is likely to be built, a rift between McD and Beane, and thoughts about personnel at the most important positions - BUT when it comes to Dennison, the lid goes back on.  So Billsy, that.

 

4)   Sounds like the bizarre, semi-horizontal front office structure that the Pegulas for some reason insist on maintaining is already, and once again, causing dysfunction.  It is incredible to me that they have not learned their lesson by now.

 

5)   I don't doubt that McD is already wearing thin with some of the players and staff.  He set himself up for this: if you come in as a first-time HC, tear out the video game systems, and bench and trade away respected veteran talent, you sure as heck better win games.  He's won some, but not enough to justify all of those changes.

 

6)  I don't know who the KC player is and wouldn't be able to speculate on that, but I also wouldn't be surprised if Alex Smith becomes a target in the offseason assuming KC goes younger at that position.

god...some people on this site are soft, and you're leading the bunch.  

 

 

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I'd say F- everything else and go get Cousins.  He wants nothing to do with DC after this season.  He got jerked around too much by Bruce Allen.  If Cousins becomes unattainable then move up to get one of the college guys.  I'd stay away from Bradford, A. Smith, etc,,,

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4 minutes ago, teef said:

god...some people on this site are soft, and you're leading the bunch.  

 

 

 

Yes, go ahead and stick to Mike Enoch/The Right Stuff manual for being an online troll.  Step one: act like a jerk and say something deliberately provocative, preferably anonymously.  Step two: wait for a reaction, then make fun of the person reacting for being too "soft" or "emotional."  You, Joe Sixpack, and a few other mouthbreathers around here are well-versed in those tactics.  Congrats.  My point (2) still stands.  Folks like you are the reason the internet sucks.

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Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Yes, go ahead and stick to Mike Enoch/The Right Stuff manual for being an online troll.  Step one: act like a jerk and say something deliberately provocative, preferably anonymously.  Step two: wait for a reaction, then make fun of the person reacting for being too "soft" or "emotional."  You, Joe Sixpack, and a few other mouthbreathers around here are well-versed in those tactics.  Congrats.  My point (2) still stands.  Folks like you are the reason the internet sucks.

my god. you really are soft. the internet isn't for everyone.  if you can't take simple ribbing from posters, maybe you need to take a break.  listen...if you want to be gullible enough to believe the op, have at it.  sure these threads are fun for discussion, but give me a break.  the op can't string a simple sentence together, and then pouts that he's going to take his ball home with him.  a lot of the reaction he garnered is on him, and him alone.   sack up a bit bud.  with that weak disposition, i can't imagine you'll get very far in life.

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14 minutes ago, teef said:

my god. you really are soft. the internet isn't for everyone.  if you can't take simple ribbing from posters, maybe you need to take a break.  listen...if you want to be gullible enough to believe the op, have at it.  sure these threads are fun for discussion, but give me a break.  the op can't string a simple sentence together, and then pouts that he's going to take his ball home with him.  a lot of the reaction he garnered is on him, and him alone.   sack up a bit bud.  with that weak disposition, i can't imagine you'll get very far in life.

 

I'm not the subject of the "ribbing."  I'm just calling you out for acting like a jerk, which you are.  If you think "look at my junk" is a healthy contribution to this forum - or society in general - someone needed to tell you that you're wrong about that.  Self-awareness isn't your strong suit.

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20 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

As I said in two posts above (and elsewhere), his knee is too much of a risk. I thought that was clear. That being said, he played very well in 2016 despite having the worst running game I've seen in the past few years (32nd in both yards and YPA). He completed 71.6 percent of his passes, which is staggeringly high, had a 99+ rating, and he lit up a very good Saints team like an Xmas tree in game one this year. Players -- especially QBs -- often do get better over time assuming they have the requisite physical talent because they learn to deal with the complexity of the game. Bradford is one of those guys, at least in my view.  I also will reiterate that the Vikings' running game was historically terrible last season. 

 

But to repeat (which I apparently I need to do given your post above!), his knee would scare me off.

 

It was a three game stretch you cited.  The guy has been a starter for (parts of) now 7 seasons.  His last nearly complete season (with a decent running game backing him up), he was mediocre.  This is in line with his previous seasons. 

 

Clearly, this three game stretch was the anomaly of his career to this point.   In fact, the guy who replaced him in Minny has already, in 11 starts, put up nearly a whole season of Bradford yards and TDs with half  of the turnovers.  So he must be playing like an elite QB as well...

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Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

 

I'm not the subject of the "ribbing."  I'm just calling you out for acting like a jerk, which you are.  If you think "look at my junk" is a healthy contribution to this forum - or society in general - someone needed to tell you that you're wrong about that.  Self-awareness isn't your strong suit.

when will you change your screen name to coach tampon?

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On 12/12/2017 at 5:26 PM, Wayne Arnold said:

 

They'll probably take anything they can get. The guy passed for 56 yards against the Saints and 64 yards against a Pats defense that Jay Cutler torched last night. And both were home games.

 

Yeah it’s all linear. Time to go after cutler then. 

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1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

It was a three game stretch you cited.  The guy has been a starter for (parts of) now 7 seasons.  His last nearly complete season (with a decent running game backing him up), he was mediocre.  This is in line with his previous seasons. 

 

Clearly, this three game stretch was the anomaly of his career to this point.   In fact, the guy who replaced him in Minny has already, in 11 starts, put up nearly a whole season of Bradford yards and TDs with half  of the turnovers.  So he must be playing like an elite QB as well...

 

If by "mediocre" you mean Bradford's 2016 with the Vikes (15 games), I'd like me a piece of mediocre like that: >70% completion percentage, >7 AY/A.
And no, in 2016 Bradford threw 20 TDs  5 INTs in 15 games. I can flex on 2983 yds and 18 TD (Keenum, 12 games)  being "nearly" 3877 yds and 20 TD (Bradford, 15 games), but um no, 7 INTs in 12 games is not "half" of 5 INTs in 15 games by any credible system of math.

 

The problem with Bradford isn't "mediocrity" - at his best, he's a very good QB and that 3 game stretch was not an anomoly vs. his 2016 and 2015 seasons (though he did throw a lot of picks in 2015). 

 

The problem with Bradford is durability, plain and simple.  That's why I call him "Fool's Gold" as a QB.

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Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

 

Did they find you funny over at BBMB?  I kinda doubt it.  

the posters did but the mods...not so much.  two mods hated me, the other two had senses of humor, so we were just fine.  see the theme there coach?  sense of humor.  try it out instead of being a message board white night.  not everyone in life is going to fit into your mold, so learn how to handle it.  i have faith in you.  you'll be fine.

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Just now, teef said:

the posters did but the mods...not so much.  two mods hated me, the other two had senses of humor, so we were just fine.  see the theme there coach?  sense of humor.  try it out instead of being a message board white night.  not everyone in life is going to fit into your mold, so learn how to handle it.  i have faith in you.  you'll be fine.

 

To be clear dude - I'm not offended or insulted by you.  I just think you're a waste of oxygen and bandwidth, and that you contribute very little of value or substance to the community here.

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