fansince88 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) What do you think needs to be the record over the next 7 (seven) weeks to say he is our man? Is it wins and losses or is it x amount of points a week? Is it compete with the Pats and win one of the two games? I will say I felt they would do better to start him day 1 so Im excited. That said I want to see 4-5 wins for the remainder of the season. I also want to see sustained drives and scoring on the first drive. He can do it I believe. If he does that. Use the large number of drafts build a team around him. What ya think? Edited November 15, 2017 by fansince88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 really man, this didn't need it's own thread and could of went in one of the half dozen or so on the front page. just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Anything he does from here on out should not impact the long term plans that (we hope) they have in place. If Peterman plays lights out, perhaps that keeps the Bills from mortgaging their stockpile of picks for a QB. Should still use one of those firsts for a QB with less flaws than NP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: really man, this didn't need it's own thread and could of went in one of the half dozen or so on the front page. just sayin' All the multiple posts are like it or not or TT should play. Im asking what you need to see frm Nathan to like us not taking a first rounder. Hope that explains it better for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 he could play well and the defense could allow 300 yards rushing and we lose so it's hard to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I thought this was going to be an over/under on how long until people call for Peterman's demotion...so disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) On 11/15/2017 at 3:16 PM, fansince88 said: All the multiple posts are like it or not or TT should play. Im asking what you need to see frm Nathan to like us not taking a first rounder. Hope that explains it better for you. sorry if I stepped on your toes there. pretty simple really, win football games. thing is, unless the defense picks up it wont really matter. my gut tells me the offense will perform much better with the kid under center. maybe if the offense can sustain drives, score points all the while giving the defense the rest it needs it could very well turn things around. I am anxious to see how it unfolds sunday for sure. Edited November 17, 2017 by DaBillsFanSince1973 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Anything he does from here on out should not impact the long term plans that (we hope) they have in place. If Peterman plays lights out, perhaps that keeps the Bills from mortgaging their stockpile of picks for a QB. Should still use one of those firsts for a QB with less flaws than NP. This x1000. The bills need a QB. You find your guy this year in the draft and you get him even if Peterman plays lights out. Worst case scenario,: Peterman turns out to be the next Tom Brady and he is our franchise guy. Even if we mortgage the draft to pick somebody we grade higher, then we still have spent 2 1st's and a 5th to get our guy for the next 10-15 years. Well worth the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 6-1 25TDs 0 Ints JK I think 4-3 gets us out of the drought,as for #s I think 15TD's and 8 picks would be reasonable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direhard Fan Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Should have replaced the guy named Dennison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 How many "points" does Peterson get for making the playoffs? What I am saying is I don't think you can measure his value just by arbitrary TDs/Ints stats... He is a "rookie" and is gonna make some mistakes... I wanna see how much he grows between now and the end of the season... Will he put in the necessary time in the film room? How "coachable" is he? Let's see what he has got under the hood, you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Really hard to say without know Peterman will do from the opening drive of the 1st quarter. We'll know soon enough. 3 minutes ago, Direhard Fan said: Should have replaced the guy named Dennison. This would help. Take Castillo with him, as well as Ducasse. The three of them can move on together to the next team that desires an abject failure on offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 22 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: sorry if I stepped on your toes there. pretty simple really, win football games. thing is, unless the defense picks up it wont really matter. my gut tells me the offense will preform much better with the kid under center. maybe if the offense can sustain drives, score points all the while giving the defense the rest it needs it could very well turn things around. I am anxious to see how it unfolds sunday for sure. No need to be sorry. Its cool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: How many "points" does Peterson get for making the playoffs? What I am saying is I don't think you can measure his value just by arbitrary TDs/Ints stats... He is a "rookie" and is gonna make some mistakes... I wanna see how much he grows between now and the end of the season... Will he put in the necessary time in the film room? How "coachable" is he? Let's see what he has got under the hood, you know? Trust me the coach wouldn't put him in unless he put in the work. Peterman said after the NO game that he prepares like he is going to play every week and I Billieve him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 39 minutes ago, fansince88 said: What do you think needs to be the record over the next 6 weeks to say he is our man? Is it wins and losses or is it x amount of points a week? Is it compete with the Pats and win one of the two games? I will say I felt they would do better to start him day 1 so Im excited. That said I want to see 4-5 wins for the remainder of the season. I also want to see sustained drives and scoring on the first drive. He can do it I believe. If he does that. Use the large number of drafts build a team around him. What ya think? Are you expecting him to get benched for the final game? 7 game remain. Also you cant put the wins or losses solely on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan60 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 You have to figure: Adequate QB play wins you the bolts, colts and phish at home. Draft best QB with 1st rd 1 pick they hold Add KC or phish on the road as wins . Draft a QB somewhere in 1st two rounds. Make the play offs. Use the first 6 picks to build around him and either get a vet in FA or a late rounder to back him up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, billsfan60 said: You have to figure: Adequate QB play wins you the bolts, colts and phish at home. Draft best QB with 1st rd 1 pick they hold Add KC or phish on the road as wins . Draft a QB somewhere in 1st two rounds. Make the play offs. Use the first 6 picks to build around him and either get a vet in FA or a late rounder to back him up. Sounds good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 25 minutes ago, Direhard Fan said: Should have replaced the guy named Dennison. Because Tyrod is still good at playing qb ? ??♂️? Peterman just has to pass the good old eye test and then he can go to Terrell Owens house and borrow the keys to the city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 24 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: Are you expecting him to get benched for the final game? 7 game remain. Also you cant put the wins or losses solely on him. Lol. Dang small keyboard! As far as wins and losses on him? Yes and no. If he is putting up TD and our D still lays an egg, no. If he is costing games because he is throwing pick 6's yes. BTW. Fixed my small key big thumbs issue. 28 minutes ago, billsfan60 said: You have to figure: Adequate QB play wins you the bolts, colts and phish at home. Draft best QB with 1st rd 1 pick they hold Add KC or phish on the road as wins . Draft a QB somewhere in 1st two rounds. Make the play offs. Use the first 6 picks to build around him and either get a vet in FA or a late rounder to back him up. Great points. You can get a real good backup in the back of 1 to begining of 2. If he proves himself to be a good backup you can get a good started earlier in the 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 58 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Really hard to say without know Peterman will do from the opening drive of the 1st quarter. We'll know soon enough. This would help. Take Castillo with him, as well as Ducasse. The three of them can move on together to the next team that desires an abject failure on offense. Dont forget Tolbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 hour ago, billsfan60 said: You have to figure: Adequate QB play wins you the bolts, colts and phish at home. Draft best QB with 1st rd 1 pick they hold Add KC or phish on the road as wins . Draft a QB somewhere in 1st two rounds. Make the play offs. Use the first 6 picks to build around him and either get a vet in FA or a late rounder to back him up. this seems like a very plausible plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 hour ago, fansince88 said: What do you think needs to be the record over the next 7 (seven) weeks to say he is our man? Is it wins and losses or is it x amount of points a week? Is it compete with the Pats and win one of the two games? I will say I felt they would do better to start him day 1 so Im excited. That said I want to see 4-5 wins for the remainder of the season. I also want to see sustained drives and scoring on the first drive. He can do it I believe. If he does that. Use the large number of drafts build a team around him. What ya think? I don't think it's record as much as overall performance. If the D keeps schitting the bed we might not win many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 53 minutes ago, fansince88 said: Lol. Dang small keyboard! As far as wins and losses on him? Yes and no. If he is putting up TD and our D still lays an egg, no. If he is costing games because he is throwing pick 6's yes. BTW. Fixed my small key big thumbs issue. Great points. You can get a real good backup in the back of 1 to begining of 2. If he proves himself to be a good backup you can get a good started earlier in the 1. I was just having fun with a fellow fan lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I don't think it's record as much as overall performance. If the D keeps schitting the bed we might not win many. Pretty much this. I want to see his accuracy and ability to lead a WR open to make a catch. He's going to make rookie mistakes and people need to understand this. It's all about progression and if he plays better throughout his starts. That said though, if he manages to beat the Pats twice somehow this year he is our Franchise QB Edited November 15, 2017 by Real McCoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Direhard Fan said: Should have replaced the guy named Dennison. I would guess he might be on the hotseat by the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: I was just having fun with a fellow fan lol Did you see my fix? 16 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I think Vlad Ducasse sacks him at least a couple times this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 4-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 47 minutes ago, Comebackkid said: Dont forget Tolbert Nah, Tolbert has a place on this team: short yardage and goal line situations. We've been incorrectly using him as a RB2, which he clearly is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I don't expect much change at all. Switching QBs doesn't stop a swiss cheese defense from still being swiss cheese. Peterman may do a little better than Tyrod. He may do a little worse. He may be exactly the same. If you expect that Peterman is the difference against a team that scores 40 points then I think you are crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 4 hours ago, JMF2006 said: Trust me the coach wouldn't put him in unless he put in the work. Peterman said after the NO game that he prepares like he is going to play every week and I Billieve him Those are the kinds of intangibles, among others, that the Bills FO and HC are gonna judge him on at seasons end... It was said that he may have been the most prepared QB available in last years QB draft class... He seems like he makes quick reads and gets rid of the ball quickly... With all the QB's that the Bills have passed on in recent years maybe they will have stumbled into something good for a change... At least now maybe we'll know what he might become with the right coaching and development... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 You lost me at Pett... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Hes got to be held to high standards to make the fo not draft a qb high. Needs to win games with his arm. Show some 4th quarter comeback ability, audibles, defensive coverage reading, good decision making. Its gonna be fun to watch. I feel bad for Tyrod but im sure hell get another shot on a better teamm later on. Lets see how good Dennison really is. He is now on the hot seat. If this offense doesnt get rolling with NP then Dennison. Ducasse. Castillo should all be gone at the end of this year. Fied. Jettisoned. Tarred and chicken winged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I think Peterman is going to drop a 34 bomb right on the Chargers face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 starting Peterson guarantees the tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 ...for starters we're going to start spelling his last name correctly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 On 11/15/2017 at 3:07 PM, fansince88 said: What do you think needs to be the record over the next 7 (seven) weeks to say he is our man? Is it wins and losses or is it x amount of points a week? Is it compete with the Pats and win one of the two games? I will say I felt they would do better to start him day 1 so Im excited. That said I want to see 4-5 wins for the remainder of the season. I also want to see sustained drives and scoring on the first drive. He can do it I believe. If he does that. Use the large number of drafts build a team around him. What ya think? Really? This could not go in the Nate Peterman to start this week thread? or how about Predicting remaining record with Peterman vs. Tyrod or how about How Many Starts Do You Need for a Fair Evaluation? This place is like an ADHD kids dream. Doctor! Ritalin! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) 38 minutes ago, simool said: Really? This could not go in the Nate Peterman to start this week thread? or how about Predicting remaining record with Peterman vs. Tyrod or how about How Many Starts Do You Need for a Fair Evaluation? This place is like an ADHD kids dream. Doctor! Ritalin! Great addition to the post. And great stab at kids with ADHD and people having no choice but to use anti-depresant drugs. What is the reason you found it nessasary to be so rude? I think I may not care for you too much. Second chance initiated. EDIT: Never mind. Just looked at all your replies to other posts the last few days. Second chance revoked. Edited November 17, 2017 by fansince88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, fansince88 said: Great addition to the post. And great stab at kids with ADHD and people having no choice but to use anti-depresant drugs. What is the reason you found it nessasary to be so rude? I think I may not care for you too much. Second chance initiated. EDIT: Never mind. Just looked at all your replies to other posts the last few days. Second chance revoked. My addition to your post is actually in 26's thread on Peterman starting this week. You feel I am rude? I think I had a pretty valid question about why the new thread when I instantly saw three that would seem to make sense to post these thoughts. You feel the fact I stated about kids with ADHD was a stab? It was fact. I have a son that is ADHD and he will readily admit that he has a tendency to scatter and has to work very hard to stay organized. I was not intending to be rude or make stabs, I feel you are overly sensitive. You declaring that you don't care for me too much and you are not going to give me another chance seems to confirm my feelings. Golly... I think I will make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Txbillsfan555 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 He's going to be the next Jim Kelly ..He's going to steal our hearts..And lead us to the big one in 3yrs...I said it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 2 hours ago, stuvian said: starting Peterson guarantees the tank Thankfully Norm Peterson isn't the Bills QB Nathan Peterman is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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