Bronxbomber21 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I'm not saying I like or dislike any of the trades Brandon Beane has made since becoming the Bills GM.... but is anyone else getting that feeling Philadelphia fans got when Chip Kelly blow up that Eagles roster in just 2 seasons then was fired. Leaving them with no top end talent on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) And they still managed to get good again faster than the Bills Edited October 28, 2017 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 And they still managed to get good again faster than the Bills  Because they took the draft picks Kelly got them in blowing up the roster and moved up to pick Wentz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Because they took the draft picks Kelly got them in blowing up the roster and moved up to pick Wentz. Â Our turn to get a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017  Because they took the draft picks Kelly got them in blowing up the roster and moved up to pick Wentz.  I don't believe that is true.  ^ No. 2: Cleveland → Philadelphia (PD). Cleveland traded this selection (2nd) and a conditional fifth-round selection in 2017 (this selection would be upgraded to a compensatory fourth-round selection if the Browns receive one in 2017) to Philadelphia in exchange for Philadelphia's first-round, third-round, and fourth-round selections in this years draft (8th, 77th, and 100th) as well as Philadelphia's first-round selection in the 2017 NFL Draft and second-round selection in the 2018 NFL Draft.[source 2] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Our turn to get a QB Â Exactly, no misdirected hate here but my God people what exactly did we win with Watkins, Dareus, Darby etc? You would think Beane is blowing up the roster of a team who has won multiple championships not one that hasnt sniffed the playoffs in nearly 20 years. Get a QB, bottom line. Do everything you can to get a QB and let losing teams worry about who is playing Defensive Tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 The Bills are stock piling draft picks. Their scouting department better have their act together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017  I don't believe that is true.  ^ No. 2: Cleveland → Philadelphia (PD). Cleveland traded this selection (2nd) and a conditional fifth-round selection in 2017 (this selection would be upgraded to a compensatory fourth-round selection if the Browns receive one in 2017) to Philadelphia in exchange for Philadelphia's first-round, third-round, and fourth-round selections in this years draft (8th, 77th, and 100th) as well as Philadelphia's first-round selection in the 2017 NFL Draft and second-round selection in the 2018 NFL Draft.[source 2]  Go look at the list of picks they had that year. They were able to make the trade and still have a draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Our turn to get a QBjust curious how our 6th round pick for the #3 overall DT that was a pro bowler factors into that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PABillsfan23 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I'm not saying I like or dislike any of the trades Brandon Beane has made since becoming the Bills GM.... but is anyone else getting that feeling Philadelphia fans got when Chip Kelly blow up that Eagles roster in just 2 seasons then was fired. Leaving them with no top end talent on the team. Eagles turned out ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Â Go look at the list of picks they had that year. They were able to make the trade and still have a draft. Â They moved up in the draft by trading players so I guess you could say they kind of did. They didn't stockpile picks or anything though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Well we need those draft picks because they have created enormous holes at wide receiver, DBs, defensive tackle, LBs need am upgrade, no clear #2 RB, pass rusher, oh and QB. Even with all the stockpiling they have done, we have more holes than picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 just curious how our 6th round pick for the #3 overall DT that was a pro bowler factors into that  That was a pro bowler. He hasnt been to a Pro Bowl in going on three years. He hasnt been a third overall pick in going on six years.  The reality of the situation is they got a pick back for a malcontent that hasnt played well in over two seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 just curious how our 6th round pick for the #3 overall DT that was a pro bowler factors into that Not sure what that has to do with what I said. They are unrelated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crowing Rooster Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Trust the process. Playoff Caliber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) don't see the kelly comparison here? so far, they're doing it their way and sitting at 4-2. the remnants from the past regime that have been removed so far have not hurt them in the w/l column. april is a long way off and 10 games to go. this season so far has been sort of a locker room cleaning yet still contending. any judgement likely wouldn't be sound until like the 2019 season where they should have their roster pretty much set? Edited October 28, 2017 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Yeah, because the last 17 years of Buffalo Bills football have been incredibly successful! Â Even with the players people are crying about that we traded! Â 4-2? Â Screw that! I want name recognition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I'm not saying I like or dislike any of the trades Brandon Beane has made since becoming the Bills GM.... but is anyone else getting that feeling Philadelphia fans got when Chip Kelly blow up that Eagles roster in just 2 seasons then was fired. Leaving them with no top end talent on the team. Kelly and McDaniels are the two that come to mind and both flashed for a minute before falling apart. Hopefully thats not the case here don't see the kelly comparison here? so far, they're doing it their way and sitting at 4-2. the remnants from the past regime that have been removed so far have not hurt them in the w/l column. april is a long way off and 10 games to go. this season so far has been sort of a locker room cleaning yet still contending. any judgement likely wouldn't be sound until like the 2019 season where they should have their roster pretty much set? Kelly was 10-6 the first year too before feeling the repercussions of the moves. Â Its a fair parallel to point out to watch out for. Could go either way though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHILL Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Well we need those draft picks because they have created enormous holes at wide receiver, DBs, defensive tackle, LBs need am upgrade, no clear #2 RB, pass rusher, oh and QB. Even with all the stockpiling they have done, we have more holes than picks. Â Well we need those draft picks because they have created enormous holes at wide receiver, DBs, defensive tackle, LBs need am upgrade, no clear #2 RB, pass rusher, oh and QB. Even with all the stockpiling they have done, we have more holes than picks. Yes, but they are also creating cap room to get players as well. Marcell was over paid and an albatross. I find it funny how people B word about his cap # number and contract and then also B word about this trade. The organization is moving forward and as another poster said what have we won with Dareus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Well we need those draft picks because they have created enormous holes at wide receiver, DBs, defensive tackle, LBs need am upgrade, no clear #2 RB, pass rusher, oh and QB. Even with all the stockpiling they have done, we have more holes than picks. let's not forget if they trade glenn and let Incognito go, also we need a right guard as well. Probably a replacement for McCoy too. Lot of new faces next year, I think however this season ends up, we will have a huge roster turnover next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Kelly and McDaniels are the two that come to mind and both flashed for a minute before falling apart. Hopefully thats not the case here  Kelly was 10-6 the first year too before feeling the repercussions of the moves.  Its a fair parallel to point out to watch out for. Could go either way though.   that's my perspective, could go either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 just curious how our 6th round pick for the #3 overall DT that was a pro bowler factors into that Joe Montana was a pro bowler one, too, and he has no place in the roster. Dareus is a slob and we are better for his departure. Imagine if, at your job, the least productive worker made a yearly salary close to 30x what many of the good workers earn. After awhile it gets harder and harder to motivate the good employees when the overpaid, morale-killing sloth is around. This trade is quintessential addition by subtraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I'm not saying I like or dislike any of the trades Brandon Beane has made since becoming the Bills GM.... but is anyone else getting that feeling Philadelphia fans got when Chip Kelly blow up that Eagles roster in just 2 seasons then was fired. Leaving them with no top end talent on the team. Not the greatest example considering that the Eagles that he "blew up" two years ago are the best team in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 The Eagles gave Chip Kelly Head Coaching & GM duties. Â This is not the same thing with McDermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I'm not saying I like or dislike any of the trades Brandon Beane has made since becoming the Bills GM.... but is anyone else getting that feeling Philadelphia fans got when Chip Kelly blow up that Eagles roster in just 2 seasons then was fired. Leaving them with no top end talent on the team. Nope. Not one bit. Well we need those draft picks because they have created enormous holes at wide receiver, DBs, defensive tackle, LBs need am upgrade, no clear #2 RB, pass rusher, oh and QB. Even with all the stockpiling they have done, we have more holes than picks. And yet, they are 4-2 with a decent chance at the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I'm not saying I like or dislike any of the trades Brandon Beane has made since becoming the Bills GM.... but is anyone else getting that feeling Philadelphia fans got when Chip Kelly blow up that Eagles roster in just 2 seasons then was fired. Leaving them with no top end talent on the team. No - not even a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Everyone thought he was a genius then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 If we keep winning, all the bad memories go away. If we start losing.... the shite will hit the fan! And I mean that literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 This year is just posturing for next year (hopefully). It's a bonus that we're actually playing good football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFFacet Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Kelly failed because the NFL figured out his absurdly simple offensive scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Â Because they took the draft picks Kelly got them in blowing up the roster and moved up to pick Wentz. All absolutely true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Well we need those draft picks because they have created enormous holes at wide receiver, DBs, defensive tackle, LBs need am upgrade, no clear #2 RB, pass rusher, oh and QB. Even with all the stockpiling they have done, we have more holes than picks. You haven't factored Kyle & Incognito retiring, Clay too gimpy to continue, Cordy not far behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 If we keep winning, all the bad memories go away. If we start losing.... the shite will hit the fan! And I mean that literally. Â Literally, huh? Whose schit and where will the fan be? You haven't factored Kyle & Incognito retiring, Clay too gimpy to continue, Cordy not far behind. Â It isn't a one year plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 just curious how our 6th round pick for the #3 overall DT that was a pro bowler factors into that Let me catch you up on the last past 2 years as you must have not watched the Bills.Marcel Dareus is a fat out of shape drug addict that really doesnt care about RESPECTING THE PROCESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017  I don't believe that is true.  ^ No. 2: Cleveland → Philadelphia (PD). Cleveland traded this selection (2nd) and a conditional fifth-round selection in 2017 (this selection would be upgraded to a compensatory fourth-round selection if the Browns receive one in 2017) to Philadelphia in exchange for Philadelphia's first-round, third-round, and fourth-round selections in this years draft (8th, 77th, and 100th) as well as Philadelphia's first-round selection in the 2017 NFL Draft and second-round selection in the 2018 NFL Draft.[source 2] It is not true. People just make claims for the sake of hearing their own BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 The Eagles gave Chip Kelly Head Coaching & GM duties. Â This is not the same thing with McDermott. I think it is kind of understood when the HC picks out the GM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Â That was a pro bowler. He hasnt been to a Pro Bowl in going on three years. He hasnt been a third overall pick in going on six years. Â The reality of the situation is they got a pick back for a malcontent that hasnt played well in over two seasons. no one on this team played well for 2 seasons on defense. Didn't you watch any football when Rex was the head coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) Â Yes, but they are also creating cap room to get players as well. Marcell was over paid and an albatross. I find it funny how people B word about his cap # number and contract and then also B word about this trade. The organization is moving forward and as another poster said what have we won with Dareus? The way I understand it, they are taking an enormous cap hit in trading Dareus. All that guaranteed money comes due. Â Personally, I think the writing has been on the wall for Dareus ever since McDermott got here. I really think, whether they are/were good and productive or not, McDermott and Beane want to be rid of any players that were cornerstones of the Whaley era. Sammy, Darues...wouldn't be shocked to see Glenn gone by the deadline...and McCoy and Clay (probably Tyrod too) will be gone by next season. I think it is a little short sighted...all those draft picks don't guarantee success. Edited October 28, 2017 by Buftex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Not sure what that has to do with what I said. They are unrelated.you commented on this coach being like Chip Kelly in that they traded a bunch of players for draft picks to move up to get Wentz. And my comment was in regards to trading Dareus for almost "nothing" and how that "nothing" of a draft pick will not get us any closer to getting our QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 I think it is kind of understood when the HC picks out the GM... I'd rather the Head Coach & General Manager be on the same wavelength than be at each other's throats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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