BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Just looked up stats and can not believe zay has only caught 5 passes on 25 targets. This is absolute crap. We can not have a starting wr, never mind our so called top one doing this, unless he improves he has to sit. I long for the days of Goodwin and Parrish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 It is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 He's been neck and neck with Hyde all season for catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 He's been neck and neck with Hyde all season for catches. LOL, sad but true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 And his scouting report reads "Hands catcher outside the hashes and snatches it away from his frame. Swallows ball into his frame to protect it when working over the middle" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIDE LEFT Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 It’s a huge transition for WR going from college to pros. Many great receivers have taken several years to successfully transition. If not for the sorry state of our receiving corps, he would/should be benched. It’s bad right now - not just the drops, but stumbling out of breaks, failure to run correct routes and/or gain separation etc etc. We can only hope he turns it around, sooner rather than later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I read he's only been credited with 1 drop. The others were deemed uncatchable by stat trackers. Â Tyrod needs to be better, only completing 24 passes to WRs through 5 games.... Â Our whole WR team is basically tied with Chris Hogan for catches, yards and TDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I read he's only been credited with 1 drop. The others were deemed uncatchable by stat trackers. Â Tyrod needs to be better, only completing 24 passes to WRs through 5 games.... Â Our whole WR team is basically tied with Chris Hogan for catches, yards and TDs. Horse crap. I can think of 3 off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 He's been neck and neck with Hyde all season for catches. Ha. Â It appears to be mental for him at this point. Not sure if thats good or bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 He's a rookie... Eric Moulds was pretty awful his 1st 2 seasons too and he turned out OK... Marv Levy never used to let rookies play much... He always said that "the best thing about rookies is after their 1st season they become vets"... Give the kid time to adjust to the pro game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I read he's only been credited with 1 drop. The others were deemed uncatchable by stat trackers. Â Tyrod needs to be better, only completing 24 passes to WRs through 5 games.... Â Our whole WR team is basically tied with Chris Hogan for catches, yards and TDs. You read... Â But have you actually watched Bills games this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I read he's only been credited with 1 drop. The others were deemed uncatchable by stat trackers. Â Tyrod needs to be better, only completing 24 passes to WRs through 5 games.... Â Our whole WR team is basically tied with Chris Hogan for catches, yards and TDs. Â If you have actually watched the games, the one drop stat is inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 He's a rookie... Eric Moulds was pretty awful his 1st 2 seasons too and he turned out OK... Marv Levy never used to let rookies play much... He always said that "the best thing about rookies is after their 1st season they become vets"... Give the kid time to adjust to the pro game... Great post. I agree. The focus is somewhat unfairly on him due to injury and front office moves. Frustrating for us and him im sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Â If you have actually watched the games, the one drop stat is inaccurate. I can think of 3 easily. Carolina last play if you want to blame him, Denver where we got a TD off him missing the catch and I believe it was Denver or ATL he was streaking up the middle and dropped a 15+ yarder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Â If you have actually watched the games, the one drop stat is inaccurate. He does get a hand on most of the balls, but they are very badly thrown and no where near the catch radius of an average receiver. Also, look at the list of top pass catchers in college, most of them haven't done ****. Too high expectations for a limited WR with a limited QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I think he's going to be very good, in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Oh good, time to dump on Zay again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 The guy can clearly catch....as in 158 times just last year. He just needs to let the game slow down for him. The trouble is currently between the ears. I hope he snaps out of it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Just looked up Good to see you again, Mr. Van Winkle. How was your nap.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Â I think he's going to be very good, in the near future. AMEN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 He does get a hand on most of the balls, but they are very badly thrown and no where near the catch radius of an average receiver. Also, look at the list of top pass catchers in college, most of them haven't done ****. Too high expectations for a limited WR with a limited QB Â Don't give me that. He's dropping easily catchable balls on too many occasions. It's excuse making or blame shifting to the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) He has a ways to go. Still think he has the talent and ability to be a #1 Wr. Putting those expectations on a rookie from a small school has not been the smartest of moves thus far. Historically, Wrs take a while to adjust. Some of the best Wrs ever have had drop issues early on. Comes down to Jones getting through it and succeeding. Edited October 14, 2017 by Mat68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Preseason: Zay might be an upgrade over Sammy. Â 5 games into rookie season: Zay is the worst receiver in the nfl. Â I think he will be fine. Sports, especially at the pro level, is all about confidence. He doesnt have any right now. By all accounts, he is a good hardworking dude. Â He also plays in a terrible passing offense. But I believe in him as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Â Don't give me that. He's dropping easily catchable balls on too many occasions. It's excuse making or blame shifting to the QB. Don't give you a reasonable facted based opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 He will be ok. Gaining invaluable real game experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I was hoping the new regime understood that trading up in the draft is a bad idea. A lesson learned, I hope. Stay where you're at, take the best player, take as many players as you can. Rinse and repeat. Trading up for a receiver with no elite traits because of his college production at a small school was a horrible choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) Don't give you a reasonable facted based opinion? Â It's a fact that he's dropped a few catchable passes that have been right in his hands. To deny that is not fact based at all. Edited October 14, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 He does get a hand on most of the balls, but they are very badly thrown and no where near the catch radius Gotta disagee. Â He's dropped a number of catchable balls and/or lunged/leaped at balls he should have continued running through to make the catch, ultimately dropping them due to poor body position. It's also possible that some of those 'outside the catch radius' throws you cite were due to mis-running the pattern or bad sight reads on his part. Â The kid better see a sports psychologist because right not his head appears to be a mess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Â It's a fact that he's dropped a few catchable passes that have been right in his hands. To deny that is not fact based at all. I dont disagree. I will say as a former washed up wr, if you only get a few opportunities a game to get your hands on the ball, you get in your head because you need to want to make a big play on every opportunity you get. Â And if you drop a Pass, Your qb should get in your ear and tell you that Im coming right back to you and youre going to make a play for us. Our WRs go quarters without touching the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 He reminds me of Steve Sax and Chuck Knoblach throwing to first or Mackey Sasser throwing back to the pitcher. He has the WR version of the Yips. I'm confidant he'll get over it, but right now, he's plagued and a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Horse crap. I can think of 3 off the top of my head. Â If you counting the pass at the end of the Panthers game or the screen in the Cincy game you not being fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMexBills Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Zay"Hands of Stones"Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS 56 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I dropped him from my fantasy team. It was worth a shot. Very disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Kinda odd that he had no problems catching the ball in preseason. So what was different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Kinda odd that he had no problems catching the ball in preseason. So what was different? IIRC he wasn't running with the starters, so level of competition. And it was the preseason, with no game planning or in-season DB coverage intensity. In other words, a 'slower', easier game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Manager Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Kinda odd that he had no problems catching the ball in preseason. So what was different? Peterman throws a better ball perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Kinda odd that he had no problems catching the ball in preseason. So what was different? Â Game action at faster speeds with results that count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Â If you have actually watched the games, the one drop stat is inaccurate. I think at one point he had six in a row. He's hurting the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Peterman throws a better ball perhaps? Â Nonsense. Charles Clay and Jordan Matthews weren't having serious drop issues in the regular season. This is excuse making for Zay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLiever55 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Our current situation is a QB that needs WRs to make him look good and WRs that need a QB to make them look good. The loss of Charles Clay hurts the offense tremendously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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