SaviorPeterman Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 This game had me feeling like everything was going to blow up. It didn't disappoint...Back to reality Today's game was the equivalent to the Miami game last year, or the Jags London loss in 2015. Basically the day most fans realized that this team isn't legit and that the season would unravel. Bucs game after the bye week is critical and certainly a must win no matter what anybody else may believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 haha I kind of felt same way. But I'll take 3-2 at the the bye with this team and it's injuries. I see progress.Definitely. Too bad about Clay though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Today's game was the equivalent to the Miami game last year, or the Jags London loss in 2015. Basically the day most fans realized that this team isn't legit and that the season would unravel. Bucs game after the bye week is critical and certainly a must win no matter what anybody else may believe. Very well said. That's exactly how I feel, and even though I felt good about 3-1, I knew this feeling was coming. Our offense is painful to watch. Tyrod is a poor QB who consistently finishes towards the top of 3 & out %. Today he had the game served up to him for a W on a silver platter and he came up so small. Today I feel just like I did in August. This is a 6-8 win team who needs to find a Qb who can see the field and throw an accurate ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Do we even know if the knee that got hit is the same one giving him trouble for the last couple years? He may have had two sore knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 Do we even know if the knee that got hit is the same one giving him trouble for the last couple years? He may have had two sore knees.is this like Glenn's two hurt feet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Very well said. That's exactly how I feel, and even though I felt good about 3-1, I knew this feeling was coming. Our offense is painful to watch. Tyrod is a poor QB who consistently finishes towards the top of 3 & out %. Today he had the game served up to him for a W on a silver platter and he came up so small. Today I feel just like I did in August. This is a 6-8 win team who needs to find a Qb who can see the field and throw an accurate ball. My gut feeling told me all along this team wasn't for real. And still think we simply got lucky last week against the Falcons since they were in fact missing their top WR's the entire 2nd half. Obviously look at the difference this week as we tried the same 'play not to lose' garbage against the Bengals and ended up getting torched by an average NFL QB and a top WR. How this teams settles for a FG with starting field position in the redzone is beyond hideous and worst than Jauron era. We'll see what happens but if I had to write a familiar script for this team we end up losing another grind it out game in the 4th quarter in a few weeks at home against the Bucs after the bye week before the wheels come off completely either against the Raiders with Carr back or heaven forbid the the Jets in the TNF game. And quite frankly 8 or 9 wins this year without the playoffs is the worst thing that can happen especially in terms of draft position and the inevitable trade wasting all the picks we have to move up and grab a QB that might not even be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 is this like Glenn's two hurt feet?Iirc we always kind of heard of sore knees rather than sore knee. Maybe not though. Just seems that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Judging by the fact that he's had a chronic knee issue, has been rest days throughout his career, and sustained this injury as a direct result of from a lateral side hit, thereby bending the inside (medial) side of his knee inward its likely that he's sustained a MCL with meniscus damage, which could require microfracture surgery or removal of the meniscus making for more 'bone on bone' rubbing which will increase swelling and require even more rest days. You have a guy whose knee was a ticking time bomb. Micro fracture surgery has nothing to do with torn meniscus. That surgery is falling out of favor anyways. My wife fixes knees and hips. We will just have to see what degree the MCL sprain is or if there is other damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Is Gary Barnidge still looking for work? I'd be talking to Josh Gordon too at this point... Perhaps try to talk Bolden out of retirement or Vincent Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 Praying for no surgery and a return after a few weeks. I know wishful thinking. I'd be talking to Josh Gordon too at this point... Perhaps try to talk Bolden out of retirement or Vincent Jackson. Gordon has not even applied for reinstatement again at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 My gut feeling told me all along this team wasn't for real. And still think we simply got lucky last week against the Falcons since they were in fact missing their top WR's the entire 2nd half. Obviously look at the difference this week as we tried the same 'play not to lose' garbage against the Bengals and ended up getting torched by an average NFL QB and a top WR. How this teams settles for a FG with starting field position in the redzone is beyond hideous and worst than Jauron era. We'll see what happens but if I had to write a familiar script for this team we end up losing another grind it out game in the 4th quarter in a few weeks at home against the Bucs after the bye week before the wheels come off completely either against the Raiders with Carr back or heaven forbid the the Jets in the TNF game. And quite frankly 8 or 9 wins this year without the playoffs is the worst thing that can happen especially in terms of draft position and the inevitable trade wasting all the picks we have to move up and grab a QB that might not even be worth it. I agre with part of this. I think the Bills got a favorable call on the Ryan fumble. If Jone and Sanu were playing I think the Bills lose. I think the Bills have a good defense but I have never been excited about the offense. I cant stand playcalling for field goals instead of TD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 i also thought the hit was dirty What was dirty about it? It looked like a routine hit and that his foot got caught in the turf before any contact was made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 haha I kind of felt same way. But I'll take 3-2 at the the bye with this team and it's injuries. I see progress. Completely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 TRUST THE PROCESS!!!!!! Its a long season ✅ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 TRUST THE PROCESS!!!!!! Its a long season ✅ Itll be a long two weeks. One of the cons when it comes to the NFL having to wait an entire week or two for possible redemption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 "likely" MCL.. "worry" for ACL... he didn't decide anything. And he absolutely knows what he's looking at. Like I said, he's nearly always right. And I only say nearly because I've never seen him get one wrong but not going to say I've seen all of his articles. I said the same thing when I watched the play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Sounds like Clay will be gone for a solid chunk of time no matter what his injury is. I wonder what plan, if any, they are going to pursue to replace him for a sustained period. His departure from the game was definitely felt and probably played a fairly big role in our total lack of O production today... If they do nothing to repair that, then we'll really know they don't care about this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samwell Tarly Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Sounds like Clay will be gone for a solid chunk of time no matter what his injury is. I wonder what plan, if any, they are going to pursue to replace him for a sustained period. His departure from the game was definitely felt and probably played a fairly big role in our total lack of O production today... If they do nothing to repair that, then we'll really know they don't care about this season! They'll probably just insert Philly Brown. Edited October 9, 2017 by Jigsaw2112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) They'll probably just insert Philly Brown. I doubt Brown will want to come back after being cut again 2-3 days after re-joining them...could have used him today...dude can't be that bad, he caught 50 balls in a season before...that's probalby more than all the WR's that played today combined have caught total in their careers. Edited October 9, 2017 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Watkins, Mathews, and Clay... With Zay being rated like 2d worst WR in the league, I feel sorry for TT. That said, I still think Peterman might be the better option. Either that, or Dennison needs to change things up and adapt to the skills, or lack there of, of the available players. Edited October 9, 2017 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Shame about the Knee, it looked like Clay and Taylor were developing some chemistry. Having said that, if we don't think Taylor is the long term answer at QB who cares about his chemistry with Clay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Shame about the Knee, it looked like Clay and Taylor were developing some chemistry. Having said that, if we don't think Taylor is the long term answer at QB who cares about his chemistry with Clay? I just think it will be interesting to see what they do to address the loss of Clay for what is going to be like 5 games or more. If this was a "win now" situation (I don't think it is!) they would be acquiring a body to try and replace him the best we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samwell Tarly Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I just think it will be interesting to see what they do to address the loss of Clay for what is going to be like 5 games or more. If this was a "win now" situation (I don't think it is!) they would be acquiring a body to try and replace him the best we can.Logan Thomas or Khari Lee most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Logan Thomas or Khari Lee most likely.That's reassuring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PABillsfan23 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Cant beat the Bengals while forcing 3 turnovers dont deserve playoffs. On to next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Cant beat the Bengals while forcing 3 turnovers dont deserve playoffs. On to next year. lol But we beat two SB contenders the last two weeks. But that means nothing. A four point loss on the road with injuries is the final say.Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) i also thought the hit was dirty Unfortunately the NFL allows those hits - not against the rules. They were several similar tackles yesterday, some by the Bills. Each time I am amazed the player taking that hit is not injured. It is time the NFL did away with targeting of the knees by DBs. Edited October 9, 2017 by MDFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 That hit was obviously dirty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Is Gary Barnidge still looking for work? ....these two are lookin' for work.................... "Chad Johnson, Terrell Owens ask Giants for a WR job following Odell Beckham's ankle injury" Sporting News Jordan Heck-14 Hours Ago http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/chad-johnson-terrell-owens-ask-giants-for-a-wr-job-following-odell-beckhams-ankle-injury/ar-AAt6EJR?li=BBnba9I&ocid=DELLDHP17 Edited October 9, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Gunner, the pros are differently built and get the best treatment possible, so we never know until the immediate swelling and trauma dies down. And their pain threshold is beyond that of mortal men. The hit was fine, Gronk gets hit like that a dozen times a game. Clay as the feature receiver wasnt a long term plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 TRUST THE PROCESS!!!!!! Its a long season ✅ Check is in the mail The Doctor is in the office And I won't ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 @ChrisBrownBills Charles Clay underwent a knee scope. He'll be out multiple weeks according to McDermott. #Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 @profootballtalk Bills TE Charles Clay underwent knee surgery this morning. He had torn meniscus and sprained MCL per source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 @profootballtalk Bills TE Charles Clay underwent knee surgery this morning. He had torn meniscus and sprained MCL per source. Meniscus is the bad word in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 So is it safe to say done for the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 I think it depends on what type of surgery it was - trim or repair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 wow. Clay was looking really good and seemed the only real option at TE/Receiver. There goes the already non-existent passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Meniscus is the bad word in football. Not nearly as bad as ACL. It's likely Clay didn't have much cartilage left anyway... http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/torn-meniscus/symptoms-causes/syc-20354818 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 So is it safe to say done for the year? No probably will be able to be back in late Novemeber or early December, likely 5-8 weeks depending on how fast he heals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 Is this the same knee that he he was always getting drained? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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