Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) Maybe Hyde or Poyer can play ironman football. They seem to have good hands.Might as well lol. Should bring up Reilley and any other pass catcher we have. Edited October 8, 2017 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) If Taylor is the problem then Peterman might help. If the problem is the O-line, receivers or run game, then changing QB isn't going to help much, is it? Taylor has had numerous different WRs, 3 different coordinators. The passing game has been bad all 3 years. Peterman looked like he made better decisions and processed things better in preseason. The change may come with more mistakes, but it still may be a better option then what we are watching. Ive said this in another post, sometimes its like Tyrod doesnt even know the routes these guys are running, hes just sitting in the pocket waiting for a guy to get completely open. There were times today where Taylor had loads of time to throw the ball and he stands still until hes flushed out or takes a sack. Whats he waiting for? the routes are in place. How come none of the WRs get the ball when they come out of their breaks? Its the NFL, guys arent open all the time, you need to trust the play and make the throw. All offseason people said this was a quick decision offense in which the QB needs to get the ball out with anticipation. I dont see any of this with Taylor? Edited October 8, 2017 by BananaB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Taylor has had numerous different WRs, 3 different coordinators. The passing game has been bad all 3 years. Peterman looked like he made better decisions and processed things better in preseason. The change may come with more mistakes, but it still may be a better option then what we are watching. Ive said this in another post, sometimes its like Tyrod doesnt even know the routes these guys are running, hes just sitting in the pocket waiting for a guy to get completely open. There were times today where Taylor had loads of time to throw the ball and he stands still until hes flushed out or takes a sack. Whats he waiting for? the routes are in place. How come none of the WRs get the ball when they come out of their breaks? Its the NFL, guys arent open all the time, you need to trust the play and make the throw. All offseason people said this was a quick decision offense in which the QB needs to get the ball out with anticipation. I dont see any of this with Taylor? Nathan Peterman in preseason. He was waiting for a real NFL caliber WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coffin Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 At this point, what has tyrod taylor shown you that you don't think Peterman could go out there and do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 At this point, what has tyrod taylor shown you that you don't think Peterman could go out there and do? Taylor is Trent Edwards with mobility and anytime he's forced to make a tough NFL throw or come back and lead a team to victory he either throws an INT or the pass is wildly inaccurate. Same reason why some of Taylor's stats have always been misleading just like with Edwards and similar players. I have nothing against the guy but it's only a matter of time before he loses the lockerroom, especially the defense because guys are going to stop playing hard when they know the QB can't throw for more than 150 yards a game and the offense averaging 10 points a game. It's not sustainable even with the 86 Bears or 00 Ravens type of defense. Sure switching to Peterman will likely piss some veterans off and create other issues (i.e. rookie mistakes) but the guy is simply better equipped to run this style of offense by default because he's a true QB and not an 'athlete' or RB playing QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Nathan Peterman in preseason. He was waiting for a real NFL caliber WR. What else do you want me to look at? Until Peterman hits the field we have nothing else. All we know right now is that Taylor is the check down king. Hard to judge any WR who rarely sees the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Nathan Peterman in preseason. He was waiting for a real NFL caliber WR. Like Sammy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 So what? Turnovers are so over rated as today was absolute proof of that Wow. Just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Peterman completed 54.4 percent of his passes for less than 6 yards per attempt and a qb rating of 75.6 in preseason and hes the next savior because why again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Houston switched their QB under very similar circumstances - look what happened. Well, they had a first round pick waiting in the wings and he's pretty good. It was only a matter of time. And a playoff defense from last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Like Sammy? Trollin on the river for a response. Yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv shitz Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 This season is going to be a duplicate of St. Doug's final season: A Super Bowl caliber defense, and a quarterback that can't throw with any consistency, and likely another year watching the playoffs, all because of horrific quarterback play. I realize he doesn't have top notch receivers to throw to, yet, they are still open, and he either misses them, or simply chooses not to throw it. The first drive we got a field goal on should have been a touchdown, but he made yet another bad decision with the football. I want him to do well, but have more than seen enough. He is what he is, and isn't going to get any better, and I don't think it would matter if he had Jerry Rice and Steve Largent to throw to, he still wouldn't pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 What else do you want me to look at? Until Peterman hits the field we have nothing else. All we know right now is that Taylor is the check down king. Hard to judge any WR who rarely sees the ball. Did he check down in the previous two weeks when he had at least a semblance of an NFL caliber receiving corps? Not to mention he's best known as a deep thrower. Your point is just off base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons99 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Who's Peterman going to throw to? Richie Incognito? This team is one WR injury away from running all-tackle-eligible-jumbo-running-packages, all the time. Peterman, hopefully, would be THROWING the ball not taking Six sacks. again, Hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Again? Again? So just in case we missed your point based on your name, you decided to repeat yourself. !@#$ing ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Of course cause you know a win against Tampa does so much for you when you drop games to teams in the AFC that you need to beat for the chance at the playoffs Yea, you're right, don't bother trying to beat the Bucs. Good job, Bobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Trollin on the river for a response. Yawn. I'm sorry - I know this must be a sore subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I'm sorry - I know this must be a sore subject. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 dunno if Peterman has a gun for a arm or not, but he certainly looks to rifle the ball out fast. Noticed the difference between him and Taylor in the preseason. Sure Peterman faced backups, but if u need to get the ball out fast accurately in this system, then i know who i would go with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Like I have said before Monday night football with the Bears starting Trubisky will be a good game for us to watch. Bears WR's are worse than ours. Bears O-Line is worse than ours. Glennon missing wide open WR's and throwing off target passes. Fans blaming Horrid offense and zero weapons on offense for Glennon's horrid play. The Bears insert Trubisky in a no talent offense, no WR's no impact players bad O-line. The big what if, what if Trubisky elevates the play of his no talent offense and passes for 250 and 2 scores in his first game and it's on Monday night football. Taylor will never get this team to the playoffs. He would need so much talent that the cap would not allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 At this point, what has tyrod taylor shown you that you don't think Peterman could go out there and do? Not throw interceptions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Can we re-draft and start Watson after the bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Taylor is Trent Edwards with mobility and anytime he's forced to make a tough NFL throw or come back and lead a team to victory he either throws an INT or the pass is wildly inaccurate. Same reason why some of Taylor's stats have always been misleading just like with Edwards and similar players. I have nothing against the guy but it's only a matter of time before he loses the lockerroom, especially the defense because guys are going to stop playing hard when they know the QB can't throw for more than 150 yards a game and the offense averaging 10 points a game. It's not sustainable even with the 86 Bears or 00 Ravens type of defense. Sure switching to Peterman will likely piss some veterans off and create other issues (i.e. rookie mistakes) but the guy is simply better equipped to run this style of offense by default because he's a true QB and not an 'athlete' or RB playing QB. Ok that never happens. Guys don't stop playing on defense or offense when the other side of the ball is not doing well. There are no guaranteed contracts in the NFL and only a few are such salary cap killers that a player can not be cut. These guys are playing every week for the next contract with the team they are on or another team. Can we re-draft and start Watson after the bye. White is already a better player than Watson. Add another first round pick and it's not close. I may look ridiculous saying that by season's end but so far they have an elite CB and an extra first round pick. I'm ok with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 At this point, what has tyrod taylor shown you that you don't think Peterman could go out there and do? I think Peterman could go out there in his first start and pass for 190 and a TD. I would see what it would take to get AJ McCarron, I think this is his last year and the Bengals are not going to franchise him. I would trade a 3rd and 6th rd pick for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 At least they can see what they have in Peterman. We already know what Taylor is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Of course cause you know a win against Tampa does so much for you when you drop games to teams in the AFC that you need to beat for the chance at the playoffs You mean beating teams like the Broncos who will likely be a bigger threat for the wild card then the Bengals? Do you think Peterman puts up the best QB rating against a Broncos defense in four years like Taylor did? We were never going 12-0 in conference. RELAX. Edited October 9, 2017 by Sammy Watkins' Rib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 At least they can see what they have in Peterman. We already know what Taylor is... Hold your breath until the begin an experiment with Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Like I have said before Monday night football with the Bears starting Trubisky will be a good game for us to watch. Bears WR's are worse than ours. Bears O-Line is worse than ours. Glennon missing wide open WR's and throwing off target passes. Fans blaming Horrid offense and zero weapons on offense for Glennon's horrid play. The Bears insert Trubisky in a no talent offense, no WR's no impact players bad O-line. The big what if, what if Trubisky elevates the play of his no talent offense and passes for 250 and 2 scores in his first game and it's on Monday night football. Taylor will never get this team to the playoffs. He would need so much talent that the cap would not allow it. Are you trying to say Peterman could do the same should Turbitzky look good? Turbitzky was a first round prospect. Peterman never was. Turbitzky looked good in the pre-season. Peterman looked average at best for a rookie and that was mostly against third stringers and guys currently not on rosters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Tyrod has 1 int in 5 games. A switch to Peterman will be far worse when it comes to turn overs. How people don't realize that amazes me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Tyrod has 1 int in 5 games. A switch to Peterman will be far worse when it comes to turn overs. How people don't realize that amazes me. He has two. But yeah, I would also expect more turnovers with Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 The point is , it couldn't be much worse with Peterman. Tyrod is so inconsistent. The only thing he is consistent at is throwing for 180 yards per game. I'll bet when the all 22 comes out Tuesday we'll see plenty of plays that didn't get made Do you have ANY idea how many times I've seen people here say "It couldn't be much worse with _____?" It can ALWAYS be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Do you have ANY idea how many times I've seen people here say "It couldn't be much worse with _____?" It can ALWAYS be worse. Very true. I remember thinking the same thing when we switched from Bledsoe to Losman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Tyrod has 1 int in 5 games. A switch to Peterman will be far worse when it comes to turn overs. How people don't realize that amazes me. Do you realize that Tyrod's low INT rate is a result of his total hesitancy/reluctance to throw the ball? And if he threw more consistently he might have a few more turnovers, but they might be superseded by much greater offense? The 2 go together. When you are as hesitant to throw as Tyrod is, the fact that he has a low INT rate isn't as beneficial as it should be... The guy is paid to sling the ball. Sling it. If a few get picked, so be it. Jim Kelly threw bad interceptions all the time b/c he had such confidence in his ability and he was slinging it like a maniac all the time... So a few get away. Who cares....if you are a decent QB. Edited October 9, 2017 by Fadingpain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Does Nate have some wrs he can bring with him? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Not going to happen and shouldn't. Sometime during the season probably when the team is out of contention it is probable that the HC is going to give Peterman a look. It would be foolish not to give him an opportunity to play in order to get an assessment of him. At this point the staff knows exactly what they have in TT. So if there is nothing at stake from a playoff standpoint why wouldn't they give Peterman the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Sometime during the season probably when the team is out of contention it is probable that the HC is going to give Peterman a look. It would be foolish not to give him an opportunity to play in order to get an assessment of him. At this point the staff knows exactly what they have in TT. So if there is nothing at stake from a playoff standpoint why wouldn't they give Peterman the ball? They should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Do you have ANY idea how many times I've seen people here say "It couldn't be much worse with _____?" It can ALWAYS be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 They should. This is unusual. We are in accord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Hah all the Peterman lovers will be in full force today So to review: this forum has lots of "Tyrod Haters" but also lots of "Peterman Lovers". It's all love and hate at TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 McD needs to get together with Beane. If they think Tyrod can get them to the playoffs they need to stick with him. If they think he most likely can't, bench him now. Every game we win is hurting our draft stock. It would be a shame if we went 7-9 or even 9-7 and miss out on one of the QBs in the first or have to give up a bunch of picks. I personally say go with Peterman. Find out what he has and if he sucks it's ultimately a long term victory for us. I gotta imagine McBeane will stick with Tyrod though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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