plenzmd1 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I keed, I keed. Older posters get this BTW. But being serious, the Bills have gotten quite a few breaks from the Refs this year..nice to see. But always worry that trend reverses itself. On to Cinci! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 They can't sustain these wins against the NFC! It just hurts them in the standings since it's not an AFC win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 That win yesterday yielded exactly zero compensatory picks. Therefore it was a big fat FAIL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 So far, the offense reminds me of the Flutie led offenses of the late 90’s (just doing enough to win). I’m fine with that for now. Rick Dennison is still trying to figure out the best ways to use Taylor and the team is getting used to a new offensive scheme, so I know it’s a work in progress. At some point, the offense is going to need to score 30 points or more to win a game (Patriots come to mind). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 NFC wins hurt our playoff chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 KC would argue. They won last year due to the D scoring points and calls going their way. Personally I think the Bills are doing exactly what they need to do to win right now. The O is still developing and the D is playing really well. Can't take anything away from them at all. They were underdogs and they won the game on the road vs a team that most are picking to go back to the SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I know to what the OP refers. This definitely feels more sustainable than Fitzy's wonder start though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 They can't sustain these wins against the NFC! It just hurts them in the standings since it's not an AFC win! The reason they won't be sustain is if they continue to leak in the Run Game. They were gnashed on Sunday. They need to fix that. While the backside of the defense has been outstanding, the LB's have been so-so. They have given up too many big plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan60 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 That win yesterday yielded exactly zero compensatory picks. Therefore it was a big fat FAIL. God I hope this was sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Our draft position is awful right now, how are we ever going to improve our roster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I keed, I keed. Older posters get this BTW. But being serious, the Bills have gotten quite a few breaks from the Refs this year..nice to see. But always worry that trend reverses itself. On to Cinci! Yes. They won, but they didn't dominate. They didn't really dominate. No True NFL Great Team doesn't dominate against an inferior opponent. No True Bills Fan can be comfortable with a win such as this. It's almost worst than losing. [/fanswithself-imageissues] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Going back to the old MB I was always one to post about "is this style of winning" sustainable. I was always proven right. It's not rocket science. When your winning because of defensive points and special teams it's usually not sustainable. At least not in Buffalo. However perhaps the offense picks it up...but after a quarter of the season it doesn't look to be ready to start carrying the load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 this is the who knows season. just take it week by week. McBeanes seem to have gotten it right so far. they are competing and are in every game. QB pressure is solid, TT simply will not turn the ball over. all good to this point. need to win the turnover battle, but all playoff teams win bc they take it away more than the other team. they can win some games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) Correct. I know for a fact you can't win without a franchise QB like Matt Ryan or Eli or Phillip Rivers. I've read it here, and heard it on Schopp and bulldog. The standings and yesterday's results provide a pretty clear conclusion on this subject. Edited October 2, 2017 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 that 5-1 Fitzy flashback comes to mind. He signs a huge contract then craps the bed and the team folds. I do think this team is different. McD has more grit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Correct. I know for a fact you can't win without a franchise QB like Matt Ryan or Eli or Phillip Rivers. I've read it here, and heard it on Schopp and bulldog. The standings and yesterday's results provide a pretty clear conclusion on this subject. To be fair to those people...they are talking about championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crowing Rooster Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Maybe the Bills should just forfeit those 3 wins because this way of winning isn't sustainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 To be fair to those people...they are talking about championships. Good point, I'll remove Eli from the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Going back to the old MB I was always one to post about "is this style of winning" sustainable. I was always proven right. It's not rocket science. When your winning because of defensive points and special teams it's usually not sustainable. At least not in Buffalo. However perhaps the offense picks it up...but after a quarter of the season it doesn't look to be ready to start carrying the load. Only thing better than a "told ya so" is a "pre-told ya so." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewMexBills Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Bills fans are funny, they would rather be 1-3 then 3-1 just to complain, but can't enjoy a team win with TYGOD under center. This team is much different then those of the past 15+years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 that 5-1 Fitzy flashback comes to mind. He signs a huge contract then craps the bed and the team folds. I do think this team is different. McD has more grit.That and there wasn't anything flukey about this 3-1 start , with FitzMagic in 2011 , we were a terrible D , getting flukey wins.Defense travels as they say and I believe we have an elite one. With TT not turning the ball over and imo ,the offense only going to get better , we can not only keep winning but get better. These were also two great teams we beat up back to back , No Shaq,Glenn, Matthews/Gaines/Humber in 2nd half , we got a team fellas , a team to be proud of,and we deserve it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir andrew Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I'm looking at it with cautious optimism. So many times this past decade this team has looked good in the beginning of the season only to fail down the stretch. I'm enjoying this win, but we cannot afford to look past any team. I think McDermott has the players well coached enough to do this as well. It is amazing what difference competent coaching makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 The OP is probably correct if things stay the same. When need to progress on offense, especially the OL (running game, protection) and definitely at WR. Who's to say they can't though? The key to this season always was and will continue to be health and improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Correct. I know for a fact you can't win without a franchise QB like Matt Ryan or Eli or Phillip Rivers. I've read it here, and heard it on Schopp and bulldog. The standings and yesterday's results provide a pretty clear conclusion on this subject. Yeah, when have Eli, Ryan or Rivers ever made playoff runs, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 that 5-1 Fitzy flashback comes to mind. He signs a huge contract then craps the bed and the team folds. I do think this team is different. McD has more grit. It's not about grit- that team was plus 2 or 3 in the turnover battle weekly. A lot of luck and not particularly good in most of the metrics we did actually control. The only hope for that team was that we stole enough early that we could limp into the playoffs later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Yeah, when have Eli, Ryan or Rivers ever made playoff runs, huh? When do you think Rivers was last in the playoffs? You might be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 The reason they won't be sustain is if they continue to leak in the Run Game. They were gnashed on Sunday. They need to fix that. While the backside of the defense has been outstanding, the LB's have been so-so. They have given up too many big plays. Regardless, you can't win games against the NFC if you want to make the playoffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 They can't sustain these wins against the NFC! It just hurts them in the standings since it's not an AFC win! Yeah I know..I HATE it when they hurt their AFC playoff chances with wins like yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 When do you think Rivers was last in the playoffs? You might be surprised. When was the last time Matt Ryan was? When was the last time our QB was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 That and there wasn't anything flukey about this 3-1 start , with FitzMagic in 2011 , we were a terrible D , getting flukey wins. Defense travels as they say and I believe we have an elite one. With TT not turning the ball over and imo ,the offense only going to get better , we can not only keep winning but get better. These were also two great teams we beat up back to back , No Shaq,Glenn, Matthews/Gaines/Humber in 2nd half , we got a team fellas , a team to be proud of,and we deserve it! This team is much greater than the sum of its parts. These injuries are starting to get me worrying a little bit...we are not deep enough yet especially at WR and LB to suffer losses to key starters for this long...Beane better get to work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasovon Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 When was the last time Matt Ryan was? When was the last time our QB was? Rivers and Brees last in 2013, Luck last in 2014. Franchise QB does not equal success is my point, and one that alot of posters seem to miss. Hell the Giants with Eli and OBJ average less than 20 points per game in their last 10 games, football is more complicated than "get a QB". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 When was the last time Matt Ryan was? When was the last time our QB was? Uhh last year in the SuperBowl for Ryan?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 KC would argue. They won last year due to the D scoring points and calls going their way. Personally I think the Bills are doing exactly what they need to do to win right now. The O is still developing and the D is playing really well. Can't take anything away from them at all. They were underdogs and they won the game on the road vs a team that most are picking to go back to the SB K.C has made the playoffs the last 4 years though and probably will be a 5th, that is no fluke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Only thing better than a "told ya so" is a "pre-told ya so." Lol. I really wasn't trying to do that. But when picking games going forward...style of victory definitely plays a big factor into analyzing it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I look at someone like the Broncos in 2015. Super Bowl Champion Broncos. Led by a stout defense, they had a few big wins, but 9 by a TD or less! It's sustainable to win close and keep winning. We've been experts at losing close games, now it's time to flip the script. Broncos 2015 won by 6 won by 7 won by 12 won by 3 won by 6 won by 3 won by 19 lost lost won by 2 won by 6 won by 14 lost lost won by 3 won by 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Dont Worry the Fix is in for the BILLS. if anyone needs a explanation I would be happy to give it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 You guys are joking right? Sarcasm about whiners? You have to be happy we beat two very tough teams, with very good defenses and we found a way to win. Your all kidding right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 One week at a time, that's all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Bills fans are funny, they would rather be 1-3 then 3-1 just to complain, but can't enjoy a team win with TYGOD under center. This team is much different then those of the past 15+years! #1) You're right when you say Bills fans are funny. #2) You are wrong when you suggest we're complaining. See statement #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 If this team ends up winning between 6-8 games, I'm going to be very pissed at myself for being happy about these last two wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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