BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 To the OP, yes I'm tired of it. But it won't change here or from national consensus unless we win Sunday. It'd also change if the Jets beat the Raiders Sunday. Wouldn't that be something?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) so the Bills go 3-0 and we win the super bowl? i didn't know that's how it works. last time i checked it was a 16 game season. being 3-0 tells us what being 1-0 vs the Jets tells us: next to nothing But 0-1 and the season would be over? The way I see it, as a Bills fan I want to see my team get good. Really good. I don't want to just sneak into the playoffs based on the number of wins we managed for the season only to be beaten in the first round. What good is getting into the playoffs if they just lose? So when I see the Bills beat an obvious underdog with zero hopes for this season, the only way I could be excited is if the Bills completely dominated the game as a good team should. While there were some good plays, they definitely did not dominate the Jets the way a good team would (think *Pats running up the scoreboard against the Bills), and therefore after the win the only conclusion I can draw is, "Well, it was just the Jets..." This is where we've come to. Winning games is not good enough. Making the playoffs is not good enough. A competent QB is not good enough. Beating the Pats without Brady is not good enough. We're already laying the ground work to discount any progress the Bills make this year. Edited September 13, 2017 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 This is where we've come to. Winning games is not good enough. Making the playoffs is not good enough. A competent QB is not good enough. Beating the Pats without Brady is not good enough. We're already laying the ground work to discount any progress the Bills make this year. And if we win the Super Bowl? Well, did you see how many the Patriots got? I honestly expect improvement with this regime, but it will be gradual and at least a little bumpy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Yeah, but you get my point. They don't get a parade for beating the Jets ....apparently NOT......they actually dropped to 27 from 26 in the power rankings..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) This is where we've come to. Winning games is not good enough. Making the playoffs is not good enough. A competent QB is not good enough. Beating the Pats without Brady is not good enough. We're already laying the ground work to discount any progress the Bills make this year.We made the playoffs and beat Brady? Damn. Ive been waiting 17 years for that and I missed it. My bad you said without Brady. So I only missed them making the playoffs. Edited September 13, 2017 by Billsmovinup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Yeah, it was a divisional win, but let's see how we do against the Fins and Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Well it was only the Jets. Beat the Panthers this week and then can puff the chest out a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Do New England* fans constantly say "yeah Brady looked great but it was just the _________"? Brady's entire career his divisional games have been against awful to mediocre QBs and usually also awful to mediocre teams. Unless I missed something those wins still counted. When it was Belichick and Brady vs Jauron and trent I didn't hear NE fans downplaying their team's win. When it was Brady vs Cleo Lemon did they have to give back the W? Do their division titles still count? One of the reasons they rack up 13+ wins every season is that the AFC East has been a joke, yet they still get the bye to the Super Bowl by getting the #1 seed. Yes, the Jets are not good, but they are still a team with a decent defense and an offense that can make a few plays. The Bills handled them easily (the score didn't do justice to the game). No need to talk yourself out of it. It was a good win. Tyrod played well. The Bills are 1-0. And yet we hate that the pats fans write off the bills for just being the bills... It's a weird selective memory we have to make sure we are always being wronged But 0-1 and the season would be over? This is where we've come to. Winning games is not good enough. Making the playoffs is not good enough. A competent QB is not good enough. Beating the Pats without Brady is not good enough. We're already laying the ground work to discount any progress the Bills make this year. How terrible... expectations?!? How dare fans expect to beat injured 3rd string qbs and teams being accused of tanking!?! Yea, I'm sorry but that makes for a nice Monday morning still- but it's not indicative of noteworthy success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 It was the first game of the season for both teams. That should solely be the point of focus at this time. One game does not make a season, especially the first one, no matter who you are. I'm sure Belichik is focussing solely on what the Pats did and didn't do in that regard, not on who they played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I am the one saying it's just the jets. Along with other logical people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 We've proven we can beat lower level opponents over the past few years with our 7 and 8 win seasons. Until we start beating the better teams on a regular basis "it's only the Jets" is well deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Any given Sunday. Never know who might win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Yes I agree all teams on any given day can beat even the best team. So yes I'm tired of hearing about the jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Do New England* fans constantly say "yeah Brady looked great but it was just the _________"? Brady's entire career his divisional games have been against awful to mediocre QBs and usually also awful to mediocre teams. Unless I missed something those wins still counted. When it was Belichick and Brady vs Jauron and trent I didn't hear NE fans downplaying their team's win. When it was Brady vs Cleo Lemon did they have to give back the W? Do their division titles still count? One of the reasons they rack up 13+ wins every season is that the AFC East has been a joke, yet they still get the bye to the Super Bowl by getting the #1 seed. Yes, the Jets are not good, but they are still a team with a decent defense and an offense that can make a few plays. The Bills handled them easily (the score didn't do justice to the game). No need to talk yourself out of it. It was a good win. Tyrod played well. The Bills are 1-0. Remember the opening game of the season in 2003? The Bills beat the Patriots 31-0 !!! Remember all the hype and fanfare that happened the week after that game? It was all useless jibberish. The Bills went on to finish the season 6-10 and the Patriots won the Super Bowl. If you draw any conclusions from the Bills beating the worst team in football in week one of the 2017 season then you have no concept of reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 No...I'm not tired of hearing it...in fact, it's motivation to not be satisfied with that kind of win...this team has not earned the right to just dismiss the fact that they won because they played the Jets, imo. The day the Bills beat good teams is the day people stop saying, "it was just the Jets." So, just win baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 No...I'm not tired of hearing it...in fact, it's motivation to not be satisfied with that kind of win...this team has not earned the right to just dismiss the fact that they won because they played the Jets, imo. The day the Bills beat good teams is the day people stop saying, "it was just the Jets." So, just win baby! The day we start beating good teams is the day even promo starts saying it was just the jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just think back to how we did against the Jets last year with Rex & Co at the helm & you will see that we are already heading in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Truth hurts it's why excuses are made. Truth is enjoy the win we won't have many of them. Just think back to how we did against the Jets last year with Rex & Co at the helm & you will see that we are already heading in the right direction. Your funny, it's not the same team and not the same mindset. There goal is to be on the top of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Truth hurts it's why excuses are made. Truth is enjoy the win we won't have many of them. Your funny, it's not the same team and not the same mindset. There goal is to be on the top of the draft. Not a single person playing for,or coaching that team has that goal. The people above them might, but the people actually doing things on Sundays are trying to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 The best part of that game for me was to see how the Bill's OL did against a excellent Jet DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) No, they sucked going in. Not sure where you read anywhere except maybe the Jets equivalent of TBD, or some ex coaches ballwashing blog, that the Jets were anything other than bad. They are not good, nor does their FO want them to be this season it seems. If the Bills go to Carolina and win this Sunday and people are still saying "it's only the Jets and Panthers", then yeah, the whambulance is warranted. Not now, however. Last I looked, the Pant hers won 1 more game than the Jest last year, which (outside of past history) wouldn't have them predicted to be such a great team this year. People lay too much weight on "but Superbowl 2 years ago!" Remember when the Bills went 3-0 or 5-2 or something then the wheels fell off? It turned out we were squeaking out exciting wins against bad teams. Imma wait and see where we, and where the teams we win and lose to are, midseason, before I get either high or low. I will say, after watching some of the downright putrid QB performances last week I do wonder more why Kaep is unemployed. Edited September 14, 2017 by Hapless Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Dude, it was just the Jets... It's true... Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I will say, after watching some of the downright putrid QB performances last week I do wonder more why Kaep is unemployed. Because if he was employed and starting - it would just show you that those other quarterbacks aren't as bad as you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Because if he was employed and starting - it would just show you that those other quarterbacks aren't as bad as you think. Mmmmm, No. They're as bad as I think. It might show Kaepernick isn't as good as I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 They thumped us 2x last year, so I consider it a heart warming upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Tired. Sure we are. It is only the Jets were talking about. They thumped us 2x last year, so I consider it a heart warming upset.They sure did. Fitz had the game of his season and the week 17 game was a tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Dude, it was just the Jets... It's true... Get over it. And yet you picked the Jets to win last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crowing Rooster Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) The Bills handled them easily (the score didn't do justice to the game). The game really wasn't decided until the Jets punted with 4 minutes left. Not easily To me it was a no-Win game. Win, well it is only the Jets. Lose, people jumping off bridges Edited September 14, 2017 by MarkyMannn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 The game really wasn't decided until the Jets punted with 4 minutes left. Not easily To me it was a no-Win game. Win, well it is only the Jets. Lose, people jumping off bridges Considering the people who'd be jumping...sounds like a win-win to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) Right now it's good, regardless of who it was against. But we may feel differently at the end of the year... When we have only 4 wins & the Jets have 3 wins and pick before us in the draft, we might wish they came back & beat us. But at this point when we still have a chance to do stuff during the season, it's still a good thing. Edited September 14, 2017 by BigDingus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Bump, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Bump, anyone? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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