Webster Guy Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Well for some reason the Panthers who won fewer games than we did last year are favored by a touchdown this Sunday. I watched the game on DVR, Cam looks like he shouldn't be playing: Missing open receivers, rubbing and stretching his shoulder constantly, flexing his hand like he had nerve pain or something. He ended up completing all six pass attempts in the second half but that's misleading when you watch the game. I think he's being forced back too early and it's not just "rust" like the carolina press is saying. He's in the same boat as Andrew Luck right now--shoulders are the curse of the mobile qb because they tend to get hit more and land on them hard several times a game. I took the 7 points and I'm going to take the money line on Sunday too because the Bills are going to win this one. Why? I believe McD and Dennison will have a plan to limit the great Thomas Davis/Keuchly duo, I have no specific X's and O's to back this up, only that having a mobile qb and good running game with play action (we have both) can either freeze LB's or force one of them to stay home-- and we'll put up enough points and harass Cam enough to get the W. It's gonna be a warm one down there so I'm glad we'll be reaching almost 80 every day this week for practice. Bills start 2-0 New England loses to Brees and Co. 0-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I honestly believe no head coach, excepting Ron Rivera is better positioned to thwart Cam Newton than McDermott. He's seen this guy in practice every day for years. He probably doesn't even need to watch film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Shady mentioned they didn't really run any of the designed passes they have in the playbook for him, they were mostly dump offs. I thought the 2nd and 20 early in the game was a screen, but I don't remember other than that. That might be one thing they're storing away to keep their LB's on their heels. I didn't notice any double A gap pressure looks either. I'm curious to see if they break that out or figure Cam has practiced against that for five years and they'll try something else. Hopefully they get a few more hits on him than they did McCown and never let him get comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Yeah, he looked real bad yesterday. He definitely looks beatable. But I will say, he still has an arm, on that int he throw it was 55 yards in the air with a tight sprial, not many qbs could throw a dart like that 55 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I've never believed Newton as a top franchise QB. I know he won an MVP but he's been so inconsistent in his career that I can't call him elite or very good. I think he's a decent overall QB with flashes of greatness here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Yet the Panthers still won by 20 points on the road against a team that is possibly marginally better than the Jets, at worse on the same level. I know the koolaid is flowing strong because it's only the 2nd week of September but there is a good chance we get blown off the field by the Panthers even without Newton playing close to the elite level he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Well for some reason the Panthers who won fewer games than we did last year are favored by a touchdown this Sunday. I watched the game on DVR, Cam looks like he shouldn't be playing: Missing open receivers, rubbing and stretching his shoulder constantly, flexing his hand like he had nerve pain or something. He ended up completing all six pass attempts in the second half but that's misleading when you watch the game. I think he's being forced back too early and it's not just "rust" like the carolina press is saying. He's in the same boat as Andrew Luck right now--shoulders are the curse of the mobile qb because they tend to get hit more and land on them hard several times a game. I took the 7 points and I'm going to take the money line on Sunday too because the Bills are going to win this one. Why? I believe McD and Dennison will have a plan to limit the great Thomas Davis/Keuchly duo, I have no specific X's and O's to back this up, only that having a mobile qb and good running game with play action (we have both) can either freeze LB's or force one of them to stay home-- and we'll put up enough points and harass Cam enough to get the W. It's gonna be a warm one down there so I'm glad we'll be reaching almost 80 every day this week for practice. Bills start 2-0 New England loses to Brees and Co. 0-2 from the little bit of the game I've seen he looked like he usually does. He generally misses wr a lot and targets. ItS who he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 panthers didn't really move the ball too well yesterday against the niners. niners defense does have a littler bit of talent on it but man their offense is rough. hoyer was pretty efficient and from what i heard goodwin dropped a sure td bomb that niners fans seem to think took the air right out of them. we need to get after cam early and often and get him on that shoulder. then run the ball down their throats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 thought it opened at 4.5, may have misread/misread/missRed it though... oh geez, a TD already???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 panthers didn't really move the ball too well yesterday against the niners. niners defense does have a littler bit of talent on it but man their offense is rough. hoyer was pretty efficient and from what i heard goodwin dropped a sure td bomb that niners fans seem to think took the air right out of them. we need to get after cam early and often and get him on that shoulder. then run the ball down their throats. The Goodwin drop was pretty rough, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 The Panthers game is a toss up for me. I think the Bills have a chance esp if Cam is banged up. But I do think that the Panthers are a bit more talented overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 The Panthers game is a toss up for me. I think the Bills have a chance esp if Cam is banged up. But I do think that the Panthers are a bit more talented overall. so you'd be willing to forego the 7.5 points and bet the Bills straight up? Let the lineup begin.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Hopefully our defense can get some hits on him and knock him around a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 If the defense can stifle them on offense we have a good shot, expect more intermediate and deep routes to counter the solid Carolina LBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Yet the Panthers still won by 20 points on the road against a team that is possibly marginally better than the Jets, at worse on the same level. I know the koolaid is flowing strong because it's only the 2nd week of September but there is a good chance we get blown off the field by the Panthers even without Newton playing close to the elite level he can. We may lose but blown out of the water? That's pretty crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 This is a game where clay will earn his money. He's gonna be blocking luke all game Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I didn't see it but cams mechanics get lazy sometimes. I'd imagine against McD he might be a bit more focused than the niners. If injured, a whole different story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I agree that this game looks like a good chance at winning. T-Mobile looked good yesterday throw in the middle. I liked the connections to Clay, O'Leary and Matthews. Do that against the Panthers while the defense holds down Cam and we win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I honestly believe no head coach, excepting Ron Rivera is better positioned to thwart Cam Newton than McDermott. He's seen this guy in practice every day for years. He probably doesn't even need to watch film. We're in a better position to thwart lots of things. For instance, McDermott especially knows the vulnerabilities of every defensive player they have who was there previously. It's a gift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 (edited) This is a game where clay will earn his money. He's gonna be blocking luke all game Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkClay is Not a blocker. Can't remember the play yesterday but he got SMOKED in there somewhere.He needs to get some receptions down the middle. Edited September 11, 2017 by Buffalo Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I agree that this game looks like a good chance at winning. T-Mobile looked good yesterday throw in the middle. I liked the connections to Clay, O'Leary and Matthews. Do that against the Panthers while the defense holds down Cam and we win. All we have to do is have TT throw to the middle against the best MLB in the game, and stop cam? Well when you say it like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 All we have to do is have TT throw to the middle against the best MLB in the game, and stop cam? Well when you say it like that... you mad? jk/ beating the LBs in both run and pass might be a challenge. this isn't jets LBs. am not sure how Bills win this game. But if i guessed? and I will. It will be second level blocking for the run game. Maybe let Tolbert bruise those LBs for a minute. That said, the pass game might need to be made better use of this game. Whats your take> I don't pay as much attention as gentlefolk like yourself NS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 you mad? jk/ beating the LBs in both run and pass might be a challenge. this isn't jets LBs. am not sure how Bills win this game. But if i guessed? and I will. It will be second level blocking for the run game. Maybe let Tolbert bruise those LBs for a minute. That said, the pass game might need to be made better use of this game. Whats your take> I don't pay as much attention as gentlefolk like yourself NS I think it's a tough one and depends which panthers team shows up. If they are sharp and focused it's a major uphill battle. If cam floats a couple off his back foot and we can take advantage it could change quickly. Carolina probably wins this one 6-7 times out of 10 at home. But it's definitely not unwinnable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) You had me right up until this little diddy: New England loses to Brees and Co. 0-2 Did you see that display by the Saints tonight? Edited September 12, 2017 by Richard Noggin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CATFAN Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 All we have to do is have TT throw to the middle against the best MLB in the game, and stop cam? Well when you say it like that... Agree that this is not how to do it. Cam only had a couple preseason game throws and I think that was apparent by yesterday's performance. That coupled with the fact that the OC has an Atari-like playbook says that the Bills can potentially exploit some weaknesses. Don't turn the ball over and it will be a very interesting game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Yeah, he looked real bad yesterday. He definitely looks beatable. But I will say, he still has an arm, on that int he throw it was 55 yards in the air with a tight sprial, not many qbs could throw a dart like that 55 yards. Long picks are great. They're just like punts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I expect it to be a tight game, decided on the last drive. Hopefully the Bills come out on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I think it's a tough one and depends which panthers team shows up. If they are sharp and focused it's a major uphill battle. If cam floats a couple off his back foot and we can take advantage it could change quickly. Carolina probably wins this one 6-7 times out of 10 at home. But it's definitely not unwinnable Well with Cam getting so few reps, and Bills gaining some confidence on defense last week I hope Frazier maintains. I am more worried about getting the offense rolling against the Panthers D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Clay is Not a blocker. Can't remember the play yesterday but he got SMOKED in there somewhere. He needs to get some receptions down the middle. even great linemen miss blocks and "get SMOKED" Clay is absolutely a good blocking TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 He was 6-6 in the second half and looked like he got his feet under him. Cam will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 even great linemen miss blocks and "get SMOKED" Clay is absolutely a good blocking TE yes. The asterisk here is that blocking TE's are not as good as they used to be. 15-20 years ago he would be considered poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I've never believed Newton as a top franchise QB. I know he won an MVP but he's been so inconsistent in his career that I can't call him elite or very good. I think he's a decent overall QB with flashes of greatness here and there. marcell Darius in quarterback form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 @mikerodak McDermott: thought Newton looked like himself. Panthers were productive offensively last wk. #Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Clay is Not a blocker. Can't remember the play yesterday but he got SMOKED in there somewhere. He needs to get some receptions down the middle. clay is one of the better blocking tight ends in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 All we have to do is have TT throw to the middle against the best MLB in the game, and stop cam? Well when you say it like that... Why attack their strengths? Attack their weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 If they follow the Jets model and get the ball out quickly, we could be in for a long day. While Cam did look rusty, he won't stay that way. He's a former league MVP and is not to be taken litely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 i didn't realize how bad of a year cam had last year. 3509 pass, 19/14 with a 52 percent comp percentage? wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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