Chandler#81 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Having a winning record in our division including beating the cheaters at least once if not sweeping them. Let's Go Buffalo!!!!! Sweeping NE* would be HUGE! -even if we have an overall losing record. For as powerful as they are, 2 W's vs them would be a real indicator our new coach can match game day wits & schemes w/ Vadar and finally show a chink in their Deathstar no other Rebel Force has been able to achieve. May the Force be with us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I woke up the quiet coach of an intercity train with a roar when the notification came through to my phone. As a daily user of the quiet car on my local line, I can imagine you got quite a few well deserved nasty looks. People on my train take that stuff seriously.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 As a daily user of the quiet car on my local line, I can imagine you got quite a few well deserved nasty looks. People on my train take that stuff seriously.... I did. And people on the Manchester to London train were unlikely to be understanding when I explained that the Buffalo Bills had sacked their coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) Determining, by mid-season, whether Tyrod is staying or going. Determining whether Sam Watkins is staying or going. Playing more disciplined football - especially on D. Seeing excellent game management skills from McDermott. Not ending the season near .500. Either win enough to get to the playoffs, or lose enough to get a top 3 pick. Well said Gugny, spot on the way I feel too. The 6-10/7-9 BS needs to end. Playoffs or bust Edited July 14, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Given pessimism is required with almost everything else, football is the one chance to be a sunny optimist. Can the Bills win 10 games and a wild-card spot? Without a doubt. Last year they were beset by injuries, had less-than-ideal coaching, and played a schedule everyone thought difficult heading into the season. Also : The defense painfully underperformed. Yet they would have won over 10 games just by beating the Jets and Dolphins alone. They could have had a pretty spectacular season if they'd also pulled out some of the games where they were a definite underdog, but still played close, - such as Seattle or Pittsburg. All this team needs is a bit of luck with injuries, the defense to gel, the offense to add a dash of consistency. Is that too much to ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 It will be a successful season for you if Tom Brady gets injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 While, I agree that statistically it seems we are due to have the ball bounce our way and sneak into the playoffs: Which would point up the absolute pro ability of our new coaching staff. I'm also concerned it would doom us to continued mediocrity and the potential to trash another coaching staff when TT isn't the answer and it is year 3 that they are drafting a franchise QB. I agree with much of what the OP said. If we were to lose a bunch of close games but have a bunch of rookies gain experience. If our HC/GM combo used the season to find "their guys" on this current roster and use the info to strengthen it next year. If next year we were a 8-8 to 10-6 team on the way to a decade of legitimate contention..... that would make this a successful season. Kinda like the draft, it may take a few years and hindsight to know for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 playoffs by hook, crook or lots of help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 I'm looking forward to this upcoming season because my expectations aren't very high. This is an experience year to me for our rookies and Coach. It's rare to have rookies contribute in a way that changes a teams path. Rookies Head Coaches always go through their growing pains. The Pats look stacked moreso than last year. Our schedule doesn't have many easy wins. This season reminds me of our 3-13 season, which was one of my favorites. Not because I think we will only win 3 games, but because I knew we were going to learn and get better. So for me, here's what I'm hoping to see this season: Tyrod solidifies the job, or they finish with a top 5 pick and we get our QB (Either Way, I think the QB question is answered going into 2018) The rookies show enough promise to be solid starters going forward. Jones at WR is the most crucial to me if Sammy doesn't earn his payday. However..... Sammy earns his payday. I hope he stays healthy all year and earns a pro-bowl spot LT position is solidified We are in all of our games and keep it close against the Pats by the season end. The season ends with us drafting Best Available, not for need again Dareus earns his contract Lorax continues his dominance Hauschka misses less XP's than Carpenter Brady gets hurt For those who think this is a beaten down attitude, maybe. But I don't think any team with this much transition and in our division would that great. Just my humble opinion This would be a hugely successful season IMO. I'd settle for #s 1, 7, 4 in that order, the caveat being no worse than 7-9. ...and that's why we're Bills fans. That's how low our team has set the bar. FML. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) Agreed. Let's leave the "whatever they do it isn't enough" until the "whatever" is at the very least double digit wins. Lol, so you pretty much agree that when we do break the drought it won't be enough? I know it "offends" certain people to talk this way. But it's the truth. I have followed the Bills since '66. I know the drill. Edited July 14, 2017 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Enough W's for a Wild Card spot at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Detective Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Your essentially referring to every fan everywhere. There will always be fans that will B word and moan no matter what. The bitching and moaning here, at this point in time, is more then warranted. The football team has been laughable. A disgrace. They deserve every bit of criticism they receive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Playoffs. Now, there are a few non-playoff scenarios that I guess I would call successful. Like going 11-5 and somehow not making the playoffs on the tie-breaker rules. And there can be season that are good to build on, that make me hopeful for the future, etc., but I don't think I'd call that successful. It's like this: Football is about winning. End of the day, nothing else matters. Stats are for losers. The primary measure of winning is making the playoffs. If you aren't winning enough to make the playoffs, you aren't relevant. Make the playoffs. It's the first step toward winning it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 1. Super Bowl Victory 2. Playoffs 3. Winning Record 4. Keep coaching staff intact 5. No rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Finish no less than 16 games, excluding the pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Finish no less than 16 games, excluding the pre-season. It starts with one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 The Chiefs going 0-16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Lol, so you pretty much agree that when we do break the drought it won't be enough How did you get that from my posts in this thread? I have said I am more bothered this year by performance rather than win total. All I said above before we start saying fans will never be satisfied lets wait until the Bills give us something to be satisfied over. You can check my posting history I was pretty satisfied with both of the Marrone years because I saw some things I felt I needed to see for me to feel good about the future. The last two years not so much. When we become a Texans or Bengals make the playoffs a few years in a row but lose early then probably fans will not be satisfied and you can come here and tell them they will never be satisfied. But you can't tell them that when they have only seen 2 winning seasons (both no playoffs) in 17 freaking years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 playoffs..I have them at 8-8 but they do play some crappy defenses, if our defense can hold up maybe we pull an upset or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 The Chiefs going 0-16. LOL this is so TBD! Training camp hasn't even started yet and we're concerned about next year's draft. Go BILLS !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Lombardy Trophy, obviously. Or......maybe 10 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Getting some quality wins. Beating bottom feeders and morale victories of hanging a bit with the better teams is old, gotta start somewhere, or completely rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 TT = 3500 yds+ , 25+ TDs, < 10 INTs. That is success for me. Means he is a top 10 QB and we can ride him for 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 The Chiefs going 0-16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfbillsfan Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Finish no less than 16 games, excluding the pre-season. Start the regular season undefeated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan of St Augustine Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 6-2 at home and 4-4 on the road means likely playoffs. Win at home dammit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) Your essentially referring to every fan everywhere. There will always be fans that will B word and moan no matter what. The bitching and moaning here, at this point in time, is more then warranted. The football team has been laughable. A disgrace. They deserve every bit of criticism they receive. See what I mean? We've been a .500 team the last three years and we're a "disgrace." And when we make a wild card and lose, we'll still be a disgrace to some. Edited July 14, 2017 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninMyrtleBeach Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 If they get past the 7-9 hurdle, that to me would at least be an improvement. If they do it I'll look for the pigs flying out of my butt. I don't mean to sound pessimistic but I am so sick of Buffalo missing the post season! I would love to see the Bills shut the ESPN so called football gurus,up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 A season that generates topics other than this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Start the regular season undefeated? Can you even imagine? This should be filed under Bold Predictions. I like your mettle Good Sir ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Super Bowl victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Playoffs or (unintentional) tank. No more middle-of-the-pack seasons please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 New coach and all, I think 9-7 would be a success. Especially if we aren't "given" any games at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 LOL this is so TBD! Training camp hasn't even started yet and we're concerned about next year's draft. Go BILLS !!! True, but it will be fun rooting for two teams every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KermitMcDermott Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 SB or bust, yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcoam Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 To me a 'successful' season is one in which you made 'improvements' from the prior season, in the chase for the ultimate objective, which is both winning the division, and or making the playoffs - So IMO winning 8-10 games will be a 'success' even if we do not make the post season However if our Bills only win 3-7 games there's no way anybody can call the season a 'success' unless you use context and a ton of personal opinion to make excuses as to why our Bills didn't improve our W-L record from the previous season, however the 'success' is only fleeting if you cannot use the building of having improved one's record, from say 7-9 to 9-7, to gain more continued success by eventually winning even more games and making the playoffs No offense, but going 3-13 can never in way be called a 'success', neither can 6-10, unless of course you only won 2-3 games the previous season, there is the optic of 'success' in moving in the right direction, complete 'success' can not be achieved with out at least winning a min 9 games and thus ensuring a better than .500 season I still view our 2014 season of 9 wins as have been a 'successful' season despite not making the playoffs because we improved our win total by 3 games that year, yet it is still the only season in the last decade I could deem that jc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Make the playoffs. Anything else is failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuklz2594 Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 being a respectable and relevant team again. we are like a one legged man in an ass kicking contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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