26CornerBlitz Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) @SalSports Source: Bills still deciding on Sammy Watkins' 5th year option. More here: https://t.co/RO5LjWYsa4 Edited April 13, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 A terrible trade that will define Whaley's tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I'd not sign him after 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 What's there to decide? Pick it up...easily a top-10 (if not top-5) WR when healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I'd not sign him after 5 That depends on how he does in yrs 4 and 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 What's there to decide? Pick it up...easily a top-10 (if not top-5) WR when healthy. Good question. He hasn't even come close to hitting his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Borgia Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 A terrible trade that will define Whaley's tenure. Is that you, Marrone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Is that you, Marrone? It has been a terrible trade up. Watkins still has yet to put in a season better than Steve Johnson's three 1,000 yard seasons in a row, who all the fans turned on during the end of his run here. Its bad all around. The Bills pay double for a WR in a stacked class that has been outperformed by the two WRs taken after him, he has been hurt - ribs, ankle, foot, we still have no QB that can get him the ball, we have game plans Watkins is used as a decoy the entire game (Patriots), or a safety rolls over the top and the Bills decide to take him out of gameplan (Chiefs). Tyrod said last year that they can't force the ball to Watkins because they need to get other people the ball too. SMH Tyrod. The Bills still don't use Watkins, and Watkins himself always has some issue with heath. He is always playing through something, or not 100%. McDermott just talked about running the ball and working hard, so nothing is going to change. Watkins being here does not lead to more winning, so its been a failure of a trade-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Anyone that considers Sammy Watkins a Top 5-10 receiver in this league is a true homer. At some point, the guy has to prove he can stay on the field before being put in that category. He played 13 games in 2015. He played only 8 games last year, contributing a whopping 430 yards and 2 touchdowns. And he will likely miss training camp once again recovering from foot surgery. With that said, the Bills only have a few weeks (May 2) to make the decision. And at this point, they have very little to lose by granting his option. But if the trend continues, I certainly wouldn't be extending the guy after his contract is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I would pick it up, if you spend two first round picks and a 4th (I think that was the late pick) and you do not even keep him past the 4th year that is a massive failure imo. I think you have to see it through the end of 5yrs just based on the hope of it panning out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I wouldn't pick it up unless he plays every game. MANY WR's play entire SEASONS without missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) I wouldn't pick it up unless he plays every game. MANY WR's play entire SEASONS without missing. That's not an option, the decision has to be made soon. IMO there's no reason why they shouldn't pick it up. It's reasonable enough for a good WR to give you a period to decide on whether to re-sign him or not. $13 mil against the cap is similar to what Jeffrey got. Edited April 13, 2017 by Chilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 No brainer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Is Sammy about to become the new whipping boy to the nuckle draggers? Geesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 If they let Gilmore walk and decline Sammy's option only to take WR #10 and CB in round 2 that would be so Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Anyone that considers Sammy Watkins a Top 5-10 receiver in this league is a true homer. At some point, the guy has to prove he can stay on the field before being put in that category. Statements like this tell me that some folks still don't know how to evaluate performance. Example: did you know that Sammy Watkins lead the entire NFL in yards/target for the cumulative seasons of 2014 and 2015? He's outpacing the league on a per-target basis. His only issue has been availability, and even then, he's missed the same number of games through 3 seasons as Julio Jones did (and Demaryius Thomas and Antonio Brown as well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I don't see any way Whaley doesn't back up the Brinks truck on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Is Sammy about to become the new whipping boy to the nuckle draggers? Geesh seems that way, he proved in 2015 when thrown too, he is elite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) Is Sammy about to become the new whipping boy to the nuckle draggers? Geesh Pretty much! Your not allowed to break a bone in your foot and try and play with screws in that foot. JJ and Sammy both have the exact same beginning to both their early careers. Look at Julio now! Sammy is capable of easily being a top 5-10 talent if we actually give him 10-15 targets a game. Has Sammy ever had 15 targets in one game like most to all top 10 WR's get every game? Edited April 13, 2017 by Real McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyToughII Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Statements like this tell me that some folks still don't know how to evaluate performance. Example: did you know that Sammy Watkins lead the entire NFL in yards/target for the cumulative seasons of 2014 and 2015? He's outpacing the league on a per-target basis. His only issue has been availability, and even then, he's missed the same number of games through 3 seasons as Julio Jones did (and Demaryius Thomas and Antonio Brown as well). So you are saying QB IS the problem? So draft one at #10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 So you are saying QB IS the problem? So draft one at #10? When you use phrasing like "the problem", you're effectively trying to pigeonhole the discussion. There are many reasons why Watkins isn't targeted as much as his peers (at least not as often--the final 9 games of 2015 notwithstanding). Among them: - Lack of availability - a run-first offense - and yes, that the QB isn't as free-wheeling or confident If you knew my mentality, you know how I feel about drafting QBs: if you don't have a franchise guy, and you believe that someone in the draft can be that guy, then absolutely, you take him at 10. You don't, however, draft a QB just for the sake of drafting one, nor do you play games and hope that the guy you believe can be franchise falls to round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) I wouldn't pick it up unless he plays every game. MANY WR's play entire SEASONS without missing. Figured you would make a comment like that. Too funny On the topic. Yes, pick up the option. No brainer for sure. I have doubt this is even being discussed Edited April 13, 2017 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroi Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Porcelain Samantha Watkins has to start producing like a 1. He is dangerously close to bust status. Undecided is the way to go. Hope he has a big year. Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 LOL @ the people voting no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Why not hold off on the option and let him show that he can make it through a 16 game season? It would only be a couple million more to tag him next year if he refuses to sign an extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 What's there to decide? Pick it up...easily a top-10 (if not top-5) WR when healthy. Cap figure could be a reason. I'd rather get Watkins inked to a 6 year deal prior to the end of his deal than pay him $13M base one year THEN have to spread another deal out over six years. The franchise tag is not THAT much higher than $13M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 LOL @ the people voting no. amazing, isn't it, blows my mind, just goes to show how clueless some are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 amazing, isn't it, blows my mind, just goes to show how clueless some are It's not as big a slam dunk as you seem to think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I see a couple possibilities here: 1) The team would rather see how the year plays out with that foot and if all goes well, just work on an extension midseason, or worst case scenario tag him and work on an extension in the offseason 2) The team is considering drafting a new WR1 in the first with the expectation to cut ties with Sammy after this season or look to deal him like the Patriots did with Chandler Jones. It is even possible that they are fielding offers or making offers themselves to gain picks in this upcoming draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Statements like this tell me that some folks still don't know how to evaluate performance. Example: did you know that Sammy Watkins lead the entire NFL in yards/target for the cumulative seasons of 2014 and 2015? He's outpacing the league on a per-target basis. His only issue has been availability, and even then, he's missed the same number of games through 3 seasons as Julio Jones did (and Demaryius Thomas and Antonio Brown as well). This is the ultimate no brainer. They can't possibly be this stupid. As an aside, the Bills must be thinking WR no later than 44. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I see a couple possibilities here: 1) The team would rather see how the year plays out with that foot and if all goes well, just work on an extension midseason, or worst case scenario tag him and work on an extension in the offseason 2) The team is considering drafting a new WR1 in the first with the expectation to cut ties with Sammy after this season or look to deal him like the Patriots did with Chandler Jones. It is even possible that they are fielding offers or making offers themselves to gain picks in this upcoming draft. There is no WR in this draft in the same universe as a healthy Sammy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) There is no WR in this draft in the same universe as a healthy Sammy. Agreed. Obviously the issue here is the health. I'm just spitballing here, really. Edited April 13, 2017 by Big C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 It's not as big a slam dunk as you seem to think it is.yeah, it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Getty Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I think you kinda have to pick it up and hope for the best. But I would wait until as late as possible to pick it up. Given his general attitude thus far I can imagine what a nightmare he would be to try and sign to a long term deal. Stephon Gilmore 2.0 as far as his attitude about Buffalo. Sometimes it's the things the players don't say about their team and fans that are loudest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 When you cough up 3 picks for one guy, it is de facto NO BRAINER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) I wouldn't. He's not proven anything and you can always throw money or tag him year 5 if he shows he can play. In any case, let the draft happen and see what materializes Theresa a minimum and then make that call. But depending on the terms, he might be a better value if he posts anoth 600 yd season. I not convinced McDermotts offense needs a Sammy Watkins. Edited April 13, 2017 by Over 28 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I wouldn't. He's not proven anything and you can always throw money or tag him year 5 if he shows he can play. In any case, let the draft happen and see what materializes there. I not convinced McDermotts offense needs a Sammy Watkins. Man, McDermott must be some kind of coach if his offense doesn't need a Sammy Watkins and his defense doesn't need a Stephon Gilmore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) Man, McDermott must be some kind of coach if his offense doesn't need a Sammy Watkins and his defense doesn't need a Stephon Gilmore. While it had little to do with mcD... name the panthers WRs during their Super Bowl run? And I am willing to bet they can find SOMEONE who can start 8 games in a season and put up 50/gm for less than sammys fifth year tender Edited April 13, 2017 by Over 28 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 LOL @ the people voting no. The Bills plan to use him stinks and Sammy has yet to become a dominant player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) Good question. He hasn't even come close to hitting his prime. He will enter the Hall of Fame as a Patriot after the Bills "smartly" get rid of him. We misused him. He was injured. But he's an elite talent when healthy. Edited April 13, 2017 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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