NoSaint Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 @SalSports One of differences in org structure you may see in Bills next regime is support staff such as equipment, medical, video will be under HC... in theory... medical i dont love coaches directing, equipment and video makes a ton of sense though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 It's a good thing--you've gotta give the coach the resources that he wants in each of those fields. If nothing else, it gives him a comfort level that the day-to-day things are being handled as he sees fit. I get that. Hopefully it just means the hiring of those people and not the management of those people was my point. Don't want him doing more than he has to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I get that. Hopefully it just means the hiring of those people and not the management of those people was my point. Don't want him doing more than he has to. I don't see much in the ways of management--it's more about setting the expectations in the offseason for how certain things will be handled logistically and administratively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 in theory... medical i dont love coaches directing, equipment and video makes a ton of sense though. Could be a conflict of interest with the HC directing the medical staff with player health/safety being compromised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) It was Jesus, and we sure as heck don't have him on our side. I blame the tailgate butt chugger for this. Edited January 11, 2017 by Wayne Arnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 @SalSports One of differences in org structure you may see in Bills next regime is support staff such as equipment, medical, video will be under HC... Medical is an interesting one. It was reported during Marrone's time that both him and Whaley wanted modern medical practices within the organization, but the old regime wanted to keep things the way they were. Marrone and Whaley felt "stim and ice" was an old outdated practice. Equipment is another as it was apparent the Bills did not know how to play in the snow this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I don't see much in the ways of management--it's more about setting the expectations in the offseason for how certain things will be handled logistically and administratively. If that's the case then I'm on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 @RQUINN619 Sean McDermott 'encouraged' by Bills hiring process, front office structure https://t.co/PDcTAqEOaq In a column by ESPN’s Dan Graziano, he reported on the process that’s occurred since McDermott first made contact with the Bills. McDermott’s representatives have apparently been in contact with Buffalo’s front office since their first discussion. By Graziano’s account, McDermott, who coached under Ron Rivera with the Panthers, has been encouraged with everything he’s heard about Buffalo, from their front office structure to the day-to-day operations. McDermott reportedly isn’t worried as much about seeking control as he is with who is responsible for specific duties and how everyone in the organization will work together to turn the team around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 in theory... medical i dont love coaches directing, equipment and video makes a ton of sense though.This is where I'm at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Medical is an interesting one. It was reported during Marrone's time that both him and Whaley wanted modern medical practices within the organization, but the old regime wanted to keep things the way they were. Marrone and Whaley felt "stim and ice" was an old outdated practice. Equipment is another as it was apparent the Bills did not know how to play in the snow this year. Yep. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 @RQUINN619 Sean McDermott 'encouraged' by Bills hiring process, front office structure https://t.co/PDcTAqEOaq What, that can't be right. I heard from TBN that everything in the front office and organization was a tire fire and that we should let it burn!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) What, that can't be right. I heard from TBN that everything in the front office and organization was a tire fire and that we should let it burn!!! Yeah and they're all going to step up and say they were wrong too. Edited January 11, 2017 by horned dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 What, that can't be right. I heard from TBN that everything in the front office and organization was a tire fire and that we should let it burn!!! What would they know about the internal processes at OBD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 This is where I'm at. McDermott was a leading voice in encouraging Kuechly not to play again this year...and said all the right things. Would have been more interesting if the Panthers had been in the playoff race. By the way...Look for the Bills to go after AJ Klein LB hard in free agency.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 @RQUINN619 Sean McDermott 'encouraged' by Bills hiring process, front office structure https://t.co/PDcTAqEOaq Without reading too much into this little blurb that feels like a guy that cares about attention to detail. He is looking for clarity and more black and white. Conceptual people (like me) deal more in shades of gray. That can leave certain things falling through the cracks. Attention to detail is one of the most important traits that I want from this regime. (Now I read way too much into the quote) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 What, that can't be right. I heard from TBN that everything in the front office and organization was a tire fire and that we should let it burn!!! dumpster fire....get it right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Because winning the press conference is what really matters. And the offseason! Rex showed us that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Without reading too much into this little blurb that feels like a guy that cares about attention to detail. He is looking for clarity and more black and white. Conceptual people (like me) deal more in shades of gray. That can leave certain things falling through the cracks. Attention to detail is one of the most important traits that I want from this regime. (Now I read way too much into the quote) Up until this year Quinn was a blogger for BillsMafia/FamBase, and BuildingTheHerd. This year he got the national media nod, and for the most part I think he does great work. He's a poster on here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 How many times did Rex say he had no idea when it came to medical stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 What, that can't be right. I heard from TBN that everything in the front office and organization was a tire fire and that we should let it burn!!! So? Maybe he like the smell of burning rubber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 @BR_NFL Bills reportedly ‘zeroed in’ on Panthers DC Sean McDermott for their head coaching vacancy http://ble.ac/2ieht4M @TyDunne Tyler Dunne Retweeted Bleacher Report NFL Players in Buffalo sure would love a move back to the 4-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Any word on who would be named DC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 @RapSheet From @gmfb, we talked about why Sean McDermott is #Bills front-runner & why Sean McVay got a 2nd #Rams interview https://www.facebook.com/rapsheetnfl/videos/1263375513729025/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lli9ABUFZCU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 Any word on who would be named DC? Possibly the Texans' DB coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Possibly the Texans' DB coach. Awesome. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 What, that can't be right. I heard from TBN that everything in the front office and organization was a tire fire and that we should let it burn!!! This the kumbaya that is always spun when a coaching is getting hired. When you step away from the ledge and look at the facts; the same dysfunctional people that were hired while RW owned the team are for the most part still there. These are the same people who said that when Rex walked in the room, they could finish each others sentences. They were lock step in alignment, etc. The best move the Pegs could have done was clean house once Marrone left; they didn't. they had another chance this year; they didn't. Same people, same culture really will give you the same results... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Everyone's decidedly middling on this choice and a lot of it depends on who the coordinators are .. but let me give you a take from a Panthers fan (adopted team)...McDermott has had a lot of talent on the front 7 in Carolina but he has also dealt with a lot of change. The turnover has been what you would expect in NFL but he has lost both front four and secondary members every year and still thrived. The core has been a solid LB core led by Keuchly and Davis--both of whom are really talented. McDermott has made the slight adjustments every year to make new personnel work and has gotten great production from both 1st round draft picks and players like Mario Addison an undrafted free agent. The guy adapts scheme and role to the player -- the gap assignments and alignment remain the same but the roles change based on who is in the role. Some things I think will happen. Keep in mind that the current Bills have more talent than what he started with in Carolina. Kyle Williams will want to play in this system Marcel Dareus will thrive in this system. Watch some tape of Kawann Short and Star Lotulelei Jerry Hughes and Shaq Lawson will be hand on the ground rushers Lorenzo Alexander will be retained The LB group needs to change to a quicker gap fillers with coverage skills -- look for AJ Klein to be a FA target -- not sure P. Brown and Ragland fit- I think Zach Brown is actually a better fit. Gilmore likely will not be retained Look for the Bills to draft a Shaq Thompson type LB - McDermott's real creative juices flowed with Shaq With a ball control offense this D could be dominating again. I would be fine with McCoy or retaining Lynn if he doesn't get another offer. I think the guys a good young coach. I think he will be here for a long time. He's got the teaching skills, creativity and has been part of two great cultures - Eagles under Reid and Panthers under Rivera. He is not going to set the world on fire in pressers or make brash promises but he has a lot more fire than Jauron or Gailey and a lot more culture building skills than Marrone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 @BR_NFL Bills reportedly ‘zeroed in’ on Panthers DC Sean McDermott for their head coaching vacancy http://ble.ac/2ieht4M @TyDunne Tyler Dunne Retweeted Bleacher Report NFL Players in Buffalo sure would love a move back to the 4-3. I found his twin... https://www.google.com/search?q=william+sadler+pictures&client=tablet-android-nvidia&prmd=isnv&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&fir=AxQMu0Ref841PM%253A%252C5AaHC-l0ZX7uBM%252C_%253BBaautjrCUP3ALM%253A%252Cv9RXrDecy7cVUM%252C_%253BHhb4pOrqp2WqPM%253A%252CMoE4aZRkiBUXmM%252C_%253BC0tpdCv0Vg8exM%253A%252CEzssuG1wtmrlmM%252C_%253B6GddR1BaNlHSKM%253A%252CtXva7ibbIlRqGM%252C_%253B84oGHP5axe7PIM%253A%252CNExcBk5XPfYa6M%252C_%253BiX31Z3AMTXxAaM%253A%252Cy21DvfJrrYrWMM%252C_%253BRC7XFqLrlWWltM%253A%252CEzssuG1wtmrlmM%252C_%253BZz3rNc2KgsnCSM%253A%252CSITZYfjjfccVwM%252C_%253BDS2yJrlnxJHD_M%253A%252CNExcBk5XPfYa6M%252C_%253BHW72NuxWW9Fd3M%253A%252CtXva7ibbIlRqGM%252C_%253B-AE8ZuJSHe062M%253A%252C6xTTvCgO_NXtcM%252C_%253BkqjdvJ9pVG2FEM%253A%252Ct2H_FcAeF9iesM%252C_%253B9A4j01hSehr0lM%253A%252CSEb1v1L7rFhCWM%252C_%253BV_rgK_SMvJb-yM%253A%252C6xTTvCgO_NXtcM%252C_%253BY4UOiOj-jAsI-M%253A%252C6xTTvCgO_NXtcM%252C_%253BojIXcDuuzJ9DcM%253A%252C6xTTvCgO_NXtcM%252C_%253BTaCFse-6NFUS_M%253A%252CroEHurrndEBmnM%252C_&usg=__27P-LMBFsZ0gVWSfubDlPkJ0tNg%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj0heKL1brRAhWm8YMKHZBjCB8Q7AkIQg&biw=600&bih=960&dpr=2#imgrc=dhGLY4wKddQFrM%3A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 After what happened to the Panthers' D in 2016 with the departure of Norman, I have to wonder if Gilmore becomes a higher priority for McDermott and the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Ouch! @WillBrinson The only real red flag for Sean McDermott as possible Bills coach is that he's willing to take the Bills job. Sounds like a take on the old Groucho Marx line, "I don't care to belong to any club that would have me as a member." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 After what happened to the Panthers' D in 2016 with the departure of Norman, I have to wonder if Gilmore becomes a higher priority for McDermott and the Bills. Not at his asking price, and that is the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 After what happened to the Panthers' D in 2016 with the departure of Norman, I have to wonder if Gilmore becomes a higher priority for McDermott and the Bills. If our Safety situation was better; it might be easier to let him walk since you could scheme your way around it. With us, you almost certainly have to let Tyrod walk to sign Gilmore and I think that is a trade off I would make... Darby, Robey-Coleman, Listenbee, Meeks, Williams, Graham just does nothing for me...I feel it's better if you add Hooker/Adams/Peppers, but I would feel really good with Gilmore tossed in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Everyone's decidedly middling on this choice and a lot of it depends on who the coordinators are .. but let me give you a take from a Panthers fan (adopted team)...McDermott has had a lot of talent on the front 7 in Carolina but he has also dealt with a lot of change. The turnover has been what you would expect in NFL but he has lost both front four and secondary members every year and still thrived. The core has been a solid LB core led by Keuchly and Davis--both of whom are really talented. McDermott has made the slight adjustments every year to make new personnel work and has gotten great production from both 1st round draft picks and players like Mario Addison an undrafted free agent. The guy adapts scheme and role to the player -- the gap assignments and alignment remain the same but the roles change based on who is in the role. Some things I think will happen. Keep in mind that the current Bills have more talent than what he started with in Carolina. Kyle Williams will want to play in this system Marcel Dareus will thrive in this system. Watch some tape of Kawann Short and Star Lotulelei Jerry Hughes and Shaq Lawson will be hand on the ground rushers Lorenzo Alexander will be retained The LB group needs to change to a quicker gap fillers with coverage skills -- look for AJ Klein to be a FA target -- not sure P. Brown and Ragland fit- I think Zach Brown is actually a better fit. Gilmore likely will not be retained Look for the Bills to draft a Shaq Thompson type LB - McDermott's real creative juices flowed with Shaq With a ball control offense this D could be dominating again. I would be fine with McCoy or retaining Lynn if he doesn't get another offer. I think the guys a good young coach. I think he will be here for a long time. He's got the teaching skills, creativity and has been part of two great cultures - Eagles under Reid and Panthers under Rivera. He is not going to set the world on fire in pressers or make brash promises but he has a lot more fire than Jauron or Gailey and a lot more culture building skills than Marrone Sounds good other than the Ragland comment. My first thought was great, the guy was another wasted pick. What now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 After what happened to the Panthers' D in 2016 with the departure of Norman, I have to wonder if Gilmore becomes a higher priority for McDermott and the Bills. I dunno. I think it will all depend on the price tag. If he really requires top 5 money he's probably gone. You don't need elite talent in a zone coverage scheme and Gilmore is admittedly more of a bump and run one on one matchup kind of guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 I dunno. I think it will all depend on the price tag. If he really requires top 5 money he's probably gone. You don't need elite talent in a zone coverage scheme and Gilmore is admittedly more of a bump and run one on one matchup kind of guy. The Panthers sure as hell missed Norman much more than they anticipated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I dunno. I think it will all depend on the price tag. If he really requires top 5 money he's probably gone. You don't need elite talent in a zone coverage scheme and Gilmore is admittedly more of a bump and run one on one matchup kind of guy. You can still have a blend of zone and man coverage and give even more flexibility to your defensive design... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I wonder if the "2nd interview" is not really a job interview about McDermott's qualifications for the position. Maybe it's more about contract details, chain of command, roster authority, roles and responsibilities, and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 I wonder if the "2nd interview" is not really a job interview about McDermott's qualifications for the position. Maybe it's more about contract details, chain of command, roster authority, roles and responsibilities, and so on. Likely about those things you pointed out in the 2nd sentence as well as locking down key assistants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 The Panthers sure as hell missed Norman much more than they anticipated. Well they did lose more than just Norman fyi. I don't really hate Gilmore like a lot of people here do and I think he is a decent corner, my personal opinion is that we could get similar production in this system from a cheaper FA and leave ourselves some cap room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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