Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Bill O'Brien is reported as having riffs with the management in Houston and could be fired with an early playoff loss. I personally think he has overachieved with very suspect qb play. I would take him over any of the other HC candidates right now. Guarantee Doug doesn't bring him in. I honestly never understood why he would leave a gig like Penn State. I am not a Penn State fan, but people there treated his family and him so well (especially given his one son's health issues) and considered him a hero for taking the job. He may live to regret leaving such a great job. this may be very true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) 1) Don't think he's a good HC......not overachieved......just in a bad division. 2) He's proven to come apart at the seams when he plays Belichick. 3) That buckeye on his chin looks like it's always about to drop a deuce. How would you feel about a management team that apparently forced a complete stiff - Osweiler - down your throat and seems to be demanding that he play? Edited January 6, 2017 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 If that's true, I think he is a jerk. I really think Marrone is a bad human. Not a big fan of personally attacking people I don't know, but, feel I have heard enough to feel this way. Sorry for not being sorry. We all have friends that are horrible people, cut the guy some slack and measure him on his skill on Sundays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 We all have friends that are horrible people, cut the guy some slack and measure him on his skill on Sundays! Not just friends....best man at each other's wedding. Pegula and obrien have a relationship too....could be interesting, and I wouldn't bet against obrien pulling a power play against Whaley if he has the leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I think he's done OK. They haven't had a QB so what can you do? If it was his idea to get Osweiller then I guess that is a fireable offence on its own The owner signed Osweiller...O'Brien had no say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I don't know if it was his idea to get osweiler but it was refreshing to see him bench osweiler and not let the cloud of the big contract inhibit his decision. takes a lot of guts. All you need to see is how good Hackenberg and McGloin looked when he was HC, and how poor they have done before/since. I've been very critical of OBrien on these boards for the way he left penn state. I thought he was dishonest and disengenuous. I still think he could have handled his exit much much better, but as time has gone on, I appreciate more and more what he did there to keep penn state relavent, and I'd welcome him in Buffalo...but expect some Marrone type behavior if he does. He is definitely not above playing game with Athletic Directors, GMs and Owners that will rub a lot of people the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Doug Whaley is not going to hire yet another failed Bill Belichick protege who's never shown the ability to develop an NFL QB. IMO, it's going to be Todd Haley. Whaley's a Pittsburgh guy, he got his Rothlesbuger QB in Cardale Jones last year, he has his Antonio Brown in Sammy Watkins, and his Bell in McCoy. Oh yeah, Haley is a Pittsburgh guy too! If there is no hire coming soon, then it looks like Whaley's head coach of choice is still working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) I don't know how I feel about O'Brien. On the one hand, I trust that he knows how to run a full program. On the other hand, he reminds me a lot of Marrone - conservative approach, never really pushes the envelope. Sometimes he's aggressive on fourth downs and other times he's maddeningly Marrone-like, punting from a short field, down a TD with a few minutes to go. I don't know... like Marrone, his team is usually competitive but never dominant. Edited January 7, 2017 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Remember how everyone discounts our win over the crippled Patriots with Brisett at QB? Well that team stomped O'Brian's Texans 27-0 the week before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) Remember how everyone discounts our win over the crippled Patriots with Brisett at QB? Well that team stomped O'Brian's Texans 27-0 the week before. Remember how they made the playoffs two years in a row and have never had a losing season under BOB? Remember how they lost the reigning DPOY and STILL posted the #1 defense in yards allowed? But they lost to the Pats with the Brocketship at QB! Does that disqualify them? Edited January 7, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Remember how they made the playoffs two years in a row and have never had a losing season under BOB? Remember how they lost the reigning DPOY and STILL posted the #1 defense in yards allowed? But they lost to the Pats with the Brocketship at QB! Does that disqualify them? Seriously, has Houston ever had to play a hard schedule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Always looks pissed off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 3) That buckeye on his chin looks like it's always about to drop a deuce. Best line on this board all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Remember how they made the playoffs two years in a row and have never had a losing season under BOB? Remember how they lost the reigning DPOY and STILL posted the #1 defense in yards allowed? But they lost to the Pats with the Brocketship at QB! Does that disqualify them? The Bills would have made the playoffs several times if they played in the AFC South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Remember how everyone discounts our win over the crippled Patriots with Brisett at QB? Well that team stomped O'Brian's Texans 27-0 the week before. Brissett was injured in the Texans game when they were up by 20+ points. He played against Buffalo with essentially four fingers on his throwing hand and went on IR immediately after (finger/hand surgery; ligament tear). Apples and oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) Brissett was injured in the Texans game when they were up by 20+ points. He played against Buffalo with essentially four fingers on his throwing hand and went on IR immediately after (finger/hand surgery; ligament tear). Apples and oranges.Excuses. They lost 27-0. Brisett didn't shut them out. Edited January 7, 2017 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 The Bills would have made the playoffs several times if they played in the AFC South. Doubt it. There'd be a lot of "how can we expect to make the postseason with Andrew Luck in our division?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Brissett was injured in the Texans game when they were up by 20+ points. He played against Buffalo with essentially four fingers on his throwing hand and went on IR immediately after (finger/hand surgery; ligament tear). Apples and oranges.Not really. I watched that game. Brissett didn't really throw the ball down field or any differently in either game. He wasn't a real threat in the Texans game. I was surprised he threw a few accurate passes in the Bills game. And it didn't seem like the defenses played him that much differently. He had a couple easy runs against the Texans. Dont just use stats. Watch the game. He wasn't a passer in either game. I think he had under 100 yards passing against Texans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Bill O'Brien is reported as having rifts with the management in Houston and could be fired with an early playoff loss. I personally think he has overachieved with very suspect qb play. I would take him over any of the other HC candidates right now. I agree. He's usually fielding competitive teams, although the AFCS needs to be taken with a grain of salt. I wouldn't mind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 He will only be in Buffalo for 2 years so I guess this could work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Doug Whaley is not going to hire yet another failed Bill Belichick protege who's never shown the ability to develop an NFL QB. IMO, it's going to be Todd Haley. Whaley's a Pittsburgh guy, he got his Rothlesbuger QB in Cardale Jones last year, he has his Antonio Brown in Sammy Watkins, and his Bell in McCoy. Oh yeah, Haley is a Pittsburgh guy too! If there is no hire coming soon, then it looks like Whaley's head coach of choice is still working. Has Haley even been mentioned or on the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Doubt it. There'd be a lot of "how can we expect to make the postseason with Andrew Luck in our division?" You would doubt it. But 9-7 and 8-8 have won that division, Luck or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Here is a list of qb's that have started at least one regular season game under Bill O'Brien Brock Osweiler Tom Savage Brian Hoyer Ryan Mallet Case Keenum Matt Schaub Just sayin guys.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Never hire a coach who was just fired. This is known as the Rex Ryan rule. In doing so, you hire a coach who has not spent time evaluating what went right, what went wrong. That's important to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Has Haley even been mentioned or on the list? no, not mentioned for any team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Here is a list of qb's that have started at least one regular season game under Bill O'Brien Brock Osweiler Tom Savage Brian Hoyer Ryan Mallet Case Keenum Matt Schaub Just sayin guys.... Who do you think signed off on Osweiler? It's not just the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Never hire a coach who was just fired. This is known as the Rex Ryan rule. In doing so, you hire a coach who has not spent time evaluating what went right, what went wrong. That's important to do. Patriots hired belichek after he was fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joaquin1119 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Houston won today game. His job is now save Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteCat Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Patriots hired belichek after he was fired ? Belichek coached as an assistant to Bill Parcells for 4 years after the Browns fired him. So, technically, yes the pats hired him after he was fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills92 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/09/king-obrien-would-be-strong-candidate-for-two-vacancies/ Any chance that the Bills may be one of the two teams??? The recent talk / rumors about the new Bills Head Coach being granted additional powers + the Pegula's connection to Penn State... Hmmmm ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) It's a possibility. Though, if we are to believe what we are hearing, this would be a Whaley pick, not a Peugla pick. Edited January 9, 2017 by Buftex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Doubtful it's the Bills. He can work with Marrone in Jax(!), and let's be honest - Jax has a pretty solid talent foundation. LA and Denver are probably premier destinations. One would think that he and Elway are of like minds re Brock Osweiler, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills92 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Doubtful it's the Bills. He can work with Marrone in Jax(!), and let's be honest - Jax has a pretty solid talent foundation. LA and Denver are probably premier destinations. One would think that he and Elway are of like minds re Brock Osweiler, after all. I agree it seems like a stretch.. you'd think he'd want to go more premier destinations... but I for one would love to bring in somebody like O'Brien.. compared to the situation he walked into at Penn State.. the current mess at 1BD would be a day in the park for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 If they can O'Brien Houston owners are well special lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 If they can O'Brien Houston owners are well special lol They're going to trade TT for O'Brien. Before this weekend's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Seem to be a lot of leaks coming out of Texans organization. During a playoff run at that. Sad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) Peter King: http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/01/09/nfl-wild-card-weekend-playoffs-steelers-packers-peter-king "I’m hearing the Bills and Rams were feeling good about the prospects of Buffalo interim coach Anthony Lynn. Organized and a commanding presence, I heard from one club official after his interview. Lynn’s best chance might be if Bill O’Brien stays in Houston and Buffalo ownership gives a shot to a coach universally liked and respected in the building." Edited January 10, 2017 by Rico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 no, not mentioned for any team OTOH, don't the Steelers respond to all "permission to interview" requests while they're in the playoffs with "Go Away. We're Busy"? Jay Glazer reporting the team could decide to part ways with him. Considering what he's done with the talent there, I would absolutely bring him in for an interview. The only way it makes sense to fire him is if he was the main reason behind the Brock signing, but I don't feel like that can be right. I think there's a point that one "lesson learned" from the Rex firing is that a fired HC needs time for ...... "lessons learned" True. More about not wanting to play the guy that the GM paid a lot to get If the GM wants to play the guy that the GM paid a lot to get, what breed is his seeing eye dog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 It may be the Penn State connection? Didn't Pegula graduate from Penn State? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Here is a list of qb's that have started at least one regular season game under Bill O'Brien Brock Osweiler Tom Savage Brian Hoyer Ryan Mallet Case Keenum Matt Schaub Just sayin guys.... are you saying he has done a lot with a little ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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