Coastie Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I honestly think he might be in real trouble....... Rex isnt gonna put up with this I agree, Rex has always seemed kind of petulant to me and I think he will put a large chunk of the blame for the loss on Carpenter (and not entirely unfairly) and I expect there to be some free agent kickers in camp this week. Wish I knew what changed from last year, he was money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 FWIW, Scobee was just about perfect when he played in Jacksonville, so not sure what happened went he got signed by the Stealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Carpenter's chip shot miss was ugly, but making him a scapegoat today is stupid. And cutting him would be beyond stupid. I remember when Rian Lindell missed the chip shot FG against the Steelers, and I was calling for him to be cut too. Turns out he would remain a very reliable Kicker for us, and I was very wrong about him. I'd say Carpenter deserves to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Steve Christie available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Steve Christie available? Why not Agatha Christie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I honestly think he might be in real trouble....... Rex isnt gonna put up with this Rex has much bigger problems than Carpenter. He should first focus on 17 penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Shouldn't you offer a solution to the problem you create by cutting Carpenter? Cut him and then what - have Gay kick FG's? What available kicker is better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I agree, Rex has always seemed kind of petulant to me and I think he will put a large chunk of the blame for the loss on Carpenter (and not entirely unfairly) and I expect there to be some free agent kickers in camp this week. Wish I knew what changed from last year, he was money. He's apparently playing with an injury as well as more pressure (the field goal length extra points). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Rex has much bigger problems than Carpenter. He should first focus on 17 penalties. It's not just Rex. Bowles in NY is a quiet disciplinarian and today his team had 14 penalties for 163 yards. I think the problem is a combination of Rex's style, our building reputation, and an general increase in flags across the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 FWIW, Scobee was just about perfect when he played in Jacksonville, so not sure what happened went he got signed by the Stealers. Playing for the same team for so long, Scobee was in a comfort zone. Moving to the Steelers surrounded him with a different supporting cast. Plus Pittsburgh is one of the more difficult venues for kickers On a similar note, cutting Carpenter and bringing in another kicker will result in a getting to know you period with the rest of the FG team. Plus Buffalo can be a tricky place for kickers too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Well dustin Hopkins was sitting there waiting for a call before the season opener. Now he's 6/6 for tge skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroi Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 FWIW, Scobee was just about perfect when he played in Jacksonville, so not sure what happened went he got signed by the Stealers. Kickers get old fast. #Heavylegs Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 There are no kickers out there.. be careful what you wish for Exactly! The grass isn't always greener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Remember Jake Arians.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Everyones right, you can't let Carpenter go, he was money last year. This year, not so much, and the year before last, also not so much, but last year he was money and if he gets his head on striaght, or the rules change back, or he heals up from whatever injuries he has been suffering from obviously he will be money again I would definitly be bringing in kickers this week to look at and not be waiting for Dan to get his groove back. Gay, or any street free agent with kicking experience can miss field goals just as good as Carpenter has. And this isn't because of todays game, this is because the offseason and a bunch of times in these last 4 games, mr. 'Money' can't hit FGs or Extra points that a kicker should....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Carpenter's chip shot miss was ugly, but making him a scapegoat today is stupid. And cutting him would be beyond stupid. I remember when Rian Lindell missed the chip shot FG against the Steelers, and I was calling for him to be cut too. Turns out he would remain a very reliable Kicker for us, and I was very wrong about him. I'd say Carpenter deserves to stay. So how do we know if youre wrong about this, too? If you were wrong once in saying to cut Lindell, you may be wrong again in saying to keep Carpenter. How can we trust you (except for your movie reviews, which are usually spot on)??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 What? For who? He's 5-7 and hit a 51 yarder today. He's safe for now I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BustaTimes Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Carpenter is not the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 How dumb is it to have a 2nd kicker on your 53 man roster who cannot kick FG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I always thought Kai Forbath was decent. Why don't we kick the tires on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Shouldn't you offer a solution to the problem you create by cutting Carpenter? Cut him and then what - have Gay kick FG's? What available kicker is better? Since Carpenter doesn't kick off, he had better be accurate as a field goal kicker--and nowadays, as an extra point kicker too. That makes the calculation with him a little different than it is with most kickers. Would you be better off with a different all-purpose (FG and kickoff) kicker + another player on the active roster? That's why I view Carpenter's situation as more precarious than that of other slumping FG kickers. Edited October 5, 2015 by The Frankish Reich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 There is nobody better out there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 There is nobody better out there though. And since Carpenter doesn't kick off, "as good as" is sufficient to replace him as long as that guy also takes Gay's roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 The Texans just cut that Bullock guy, maybe worth a tire kick why did they cut him? because he was kicking really well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobshaw81 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Give Carpenter a break. He is the best kicker we had since Christie and not the reason we lost today. Kickers take way too much of the blame. He just may be slaying to many orcs in Middle-earth in his off time, though I cant blame him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Did anyone watch any other game today. FG kickers had a horrible weekend around the league. Maybe they'll all be cut which would leave a lot of options. I always thought Kai Forbath was decent. Why don't we kick the tires on him? and then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Well dustin Hopkins was sitting there waiting for a call before the season opener. Now he's 6/6 for tge skins. Yup. Skins fans are loving him. I was bummed when he got the hamstring injury after we drafted him. His pedigree was very good and now his potential is turning into reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Btw, ya can't cut Dan Carpenter. He has to play himself out of this funk. Do you realize how fast he would be scooped up by teams like the Steelers and Eagles?!? Just a bunch of nobody's out there right now. You can't cut a known kicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Hey maybe if the Saints cut their guy who jut missed a 30 yarder, then we can sign him instead of Carpenter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Do you watch other games? Saints kicker just missed a 30 YD FG to win the game at home and in a some Plenty of bad kicking. Carpenter is fine. Hey maybe if the Saints cut their guy who jut missed a 30 yarder, then we can sign him instead of Carpenter! Typing at same time! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 As a side note, Dustin Hopkins looks great on placements and kickoffs for Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I honestly think he might be in real trouble....... Rex isnt gonna put up with this He also needs a lamb to slaughter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaSnow Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Yup. Skins fans are loving him. I was bummed when he got the hamstring injury after we drafted him. His pedigree was very good and now his potential is turning into reality Completely agree across the board. Loved the pick when we made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Any kicker off the street would be an upgrade. He is just not dependable. Imo A kicker off the street isn't reliable either, that's why he's available at this point in the season. They should work some kickers out, but I wouldn't put Carpenter out to pasture just yet. It CAN be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 So how do we know if youre wrong about this, too? If you were wrong once in saying to cut Lindell, you may be wrong again in saying to keep Carpenter. How can we trust you (except for your movie reviews, which are usually spot on)??? Everyones right, you can't let Carpenter go, he was money last year. This year, not so much, and the year before last, also not so much, but last year he was money and if he gets his head on striaght, or the rules change back, or he heals up from whatever injuries he has been suffering from obviously he will be money again I would definitly be bringing in kickers this week to look at and not be waiting for Dan to get his groove back. Gay, or any street free agent with kicking experience can miss field goals just as good as Carpenter has. And this isn't because of todays game, this is because the offseason and a bunch of times in these last 4 games, mr. 'Money' can't hit FGs or Extra points that a kicker should....... Ummm, the year before last he was 33/36 on FG's, 6 from 50+ Carpenter has been money since he got here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Why not Agatha Christie? I was gonna go with Lou Christie. I hope Carp is just rope-a-dopin', and he'll get up and knock out Foreman. But he is not looking good. He'll need to get it straightened out soon, or Rex just may try a JAG off the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 @SportBlogNYC: Jay Feely posted this today about kickers and it makes a lot of sense http://t.co/JhajLIlqdx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 In this case he likely cost us a win...that miss caused a chain of events that saw us go for it on 4th and goal instead of kicking another FG to cut it to a one possession game. Game would have been tied at 16 instead of us being down 16-10. So, it wasn't the 17 penalties or the poor tackling on a short pass to a RB that led to a 50 yard Giants' TD right after the Bills cut the lead to 16-10 that had anything to do with the loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Remember when we had the thread about why Miami cut him and settled on it being an overreaction to a bad couple weeks? Think we are having one of those moments here? pretty sure the guy is injured and trying to kick anyway. he's on the injury report every week... Rexy gonna have to stick with him and hope he gets healthy... the 51 yarder may have tweaked something... don't shoot the kicker, he certainly did not lose the game. cut urbik and get a younger guy up from the practice squad . but urbik is the backup center... ugh. JOhn miller better get healthy quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 if Pete Gogolak didn't just admit he is more a Giants fan, than a Bills fan. I'd give him a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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