dulles Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Sure you do... in the NBA. I'd love to see a 6-8 lineman try to guard an NBA PG. Can you see Cordy Glenn closing out on Steph Curry as he sidesteps and launches a corner three? I can just imagine the aftermath on the sideline. It would redefine the experience of front row seating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Not last year due to the kidney infection for Glenn, but his first two years were excellent. I can't believe Kuondjo is better. How do you know Glenn had a kidney infection? I thought the ailment was not disclosed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) I was watching Olbermann and John Clayton was on discussing the Broncos situation after losing Clady. He said Glenn is a likely FA target for Denver. Edited June 3, 2015 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I was watching Olbermann and John Clayton was on discussing the Broncos situation after losing Clady. He said Glenn is a likely FA target for Denver. What if he doesn't become a FA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Its all about competition with this staff. They are a long way from determining a starting 5. BTW, this was something missing from the Marrone regime. You were either on the inside looking out or the outside looking in. A big problem when you are developing and attempting to improve players. They need to believe they have a chance, and it makes everyone better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Both Roman and Rex have said you can't really tell much of anything that really matters until they get pads on. It's great that both of them are looking good. Remember how good Henderson looked even in preseason games last year at LT? And then got killed in the regular season. Both Kujo and Henderson are big athletic guys. If they are in good shape and determined to do well and got their heads in the new playbook and picked up the new techniques quickly, they will be singled out for doing well. But it's still not really blocking NFL starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 What if he doesn't become a FA?  He is foolish not to test the market   I can't see how CK goes from not dressing last year to starting RT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I wonder if he's the vet who showed up out of shape... In a contract year? Can't imagine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Both Roman and Rex have said you can't really tell much of anything that really matters until they get pads on. It's great that both of them are looking good. Remember how good Henderson looked even in preseason games last year at LT? And then got killed in the regular season. Both Kujo and Henderson are big athletic guys. If they are in good shape and determined to do well and got their heads in the new playbook and picked up the new techniques quickly, they will be singled out for doing well. But it's still not really blocking NFL starters. Glenn is a proven commodity. He had a bit of a down year last season compared to the previous, but he is still a very good LT. To move him to the bench would be flat out stupid as he is our best OL'man. Don't see it happening. I hope we can get him signed to an extension also, but we will have to work some things out with the cap first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 If Glenn can't crack the starting lineup the new o line is fricken awesome. Also they would have a potential trade bait for any spot they decide they need to bolster. A starting quality LT would be worth something to someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 If Kojo pans out (which so far, things are looking much better than last year), then I suspect Henderson may end up at guard. That would be one big bad o-line.Nobody that talk is playing Guard.If Kojo pans out (which so far, things are looking much better than last year), then I suspect Henderson may end up at guard. That would be one big bad o-line.Nobody that tall is playing Guard. Pears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Dog Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 No chance; if that is the case Glenn is a starting guard. He's their best OL.. Â Agree, would he play the right guard spot that was the weakest link on the line last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I'm thinking they're getting Seantrel ready to be a swing tackle. Maybe Glenn and Henderson start but if one of them gets hurt Kujo comes in as RT and the other plays LT. Plus if we're not able to sign Glenn we have someone who can step in the following year. Â I also thought it was interesting that Marrone thought "Henderson consistently performed the best of all of the teams offensive linemen last season.". I don't remember that being talked about here, didn't PFF rate him pretty low? Last year they were putting an extra TE beside Henderson because he couldn't do it on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 They would kick him inside to guard if they really fell in love with Henderson and Kujo at the tackles. Glenn would be a pro bowl guard easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Eric Pears??? And that is how you go from being a 9-7 head coach to coaching the Jacksonville oline.LMFAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Wood could be the odd man out. Â Kujo - Miller - Incognito - Glenn - Henderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 No chance; if that is the case Glenn is a starting guard. He's their best OL. Â "Cordy Glenn is not a guard!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Wood could be the odd man out.  Kujo - Miller - Incognito - Glenn - Henderson  Kouandjio is not nor ever will be a LT in the NFL. No matter how much work does in the off-season, it won't remove the fact he's not agile enough to handle the quicker pass rushers.  As to Cordy, well, it's a contract year. If anyone thinks that doesn't factor so much into personnel decisions, think again. It could also be this staff's attempt to motivate him.  At this point, everything is conjecture and symbolism over substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Disregarding the Glenn angle, it would be fantastic if it turns out that both Henderson and CK become top NFL talents this season. More likely however, the Bills and Roman "loving what they are seeing" translates to "They are not going to be busts! They should contribute in a positive way this season." Totally agree with this. Kujo has a shot on the right side and Henderson can come in as a swing tackle without a huge drop-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Ha ha ha gotta love OTA's In a contract year? Can't imaginethat, and it was reported he came in In fabulous shape, and with lower weight than last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Wood could be the odd man out. Â Kujo - Miller - Incognito - Glenn - Henderson Has Incognito ever in his life played Center? Don't think this is very likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Wood could be the odd man out. Â Kujo - Miller - Incognito - Glenn - Henderson wow, the only one I see here that might be right is Miller, and now we're penciling in rookies... Glenn, ?, wood, incognito, Henderson/ maybe cujo.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Has Incognito ever in his life played Center? Don't think this is very likely. Â Yes, he played center for his final 2 years at Nebraska. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Someone mentioned it up thread but we don't really have a blocking TE. Roman has been known to use unbalanced lines and extra OTs lined up as TEs in running formations. The swing tackle is going to get some decent playing time I think even without injury. Plus in order for Glenn or either of the other two to be made OG, we would have to sign a veteran OT who was good enough to come in and play right away. We only have three legitimate OT candidates on the entire team right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Carucci has been wrong pretty regularly for some time now. We just notice it more because he only reports on Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Not sure this had been mentioned, as I only read about 1/2 of this thread, I'm sorry if it has... Â Moving Glenn to guard would significantly decrease our chances of re-signing him. He's played at an acceptable level for years at LT, and when his contract is up, will command LT money. Moving him inside would hit his salary (I believe) about $4M per year... While that would be great for us, I'm pretty sure that wouldn't work for him, and he would most likely walk and sign with a team willing to pay him the LT money to play LT- and you know we aren't going to give him LT money to play G... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Not sure this had been mentioned, as I only read about 1/2 of this thread, I'm sorry if it has... Â Moving Glenn to guard would significantly decrease our chances of re-signing him. He's played at an acceptable level for years at LT, and when his contract is up, will command LT money. Moving him inside would hit his salary (I believe) about $4M per year... While that would be great for us, I'm pretty sure that wouldn't work for him, and he would most likely walk and sign with a team willing to pay him the LT money to play LT- and you know we aren't going to give him LT money to play G... Â I've mentioned a few times (not necessarily in this thread) that the only way to get it done (if they want to move him to OG) would be to sign him to an extension now, then move him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Has Incognito ever in his life played Center? Don't think this is very likely. Actually.....yes Cog has played center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Yes, lets bench our best offensive lineman. Â :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanOverChin Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Expect Glenn to move to OG if Henderson and Kouandjio prove to be worthy OTs. It is GREAT NEWS to hear that the new coaching staff believes enough in both Henderson and Kouandjio to make them the starting LT and RT respectively.  When Glenn was drafted many scouts thought he was best suited to play OG. Both H & K are more athletic than he is.  The bottom line is that our O-line will be greatly improved if we can afford to put Glenn at OG.  The possible starting O-line for the "Ground and Pound" Bills:  Henderson/Incognito/Wood/Glenn/Kouandjio  Henderson/Miller/Wood/Glenn/Kouandjio  Henderson/Incognito/Wood/Miller/Glenn.  I think Kromer is serious about moving Henderson to LT because of his excellent size, reach, and athleticism. Wood will be the OC. I expect Glenn, Incognito, Miller, Kouandjio to fight for the other three spots. Urbik will be the backup OC (and a backup OG). Richardson and T. Chandler will likely fill spots 8 ad 9 on the O-line.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Yes, he played center for his final 2 years at Nebraska.Thanks. Should have looked that up before posting - my bad. Still does not seem likely, though. I think it is more likely they are trying to find out if Henderson can play the left side in case Glenn goes down. He is a probably a better candidate for swing tackle given his starting experience at RT last year. They need to coach somebody up for that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Expect Glenn to move to OG if Henderson and Kouandjio prove to be worthy OTs. It is GREAT NEWS to hear that the new coaching staff believes enough in both Henderson and Kouandjio to make them the starting LT and RT respectively.  When Glenn was drafted many scouts thought he was best suited to play OG. Both H & K are more athletic than he is.  The bottom line is that our O-line will be greatly improved if we can afford to put Glenn at OG.  The possible starting O-line for the "Ground and Pound" Bills:  Henderson/Incognito/Wood/Glenn/Kouandjio  Henderson/Miller/Wood/Glenn/Kouandjio  Henderson/Incognito/Wood/Miller/Glenn.  I think Kromer is serious about moving Henderson to LT because of his excellent size, reach, and athleticism. Wood will be the OC. I expect Glenn, Incognito, Miller, Kouandjio to fight for the other three spots. Urbik will be the backup OC (and a backup OG). Richardson and T. Chandler will likely fill spots 8 ad 9 on the O-line.  To me this makes zero sense  - Glenn has been a worthy LT....last year everyone played horrible.....prior to that Glenn has been considered a gem at LT...WHY CHANGE THAT - Who rides the bench in that situation....John Miller....the coaches appear to LOVE John Miller  IMO......the real battle is between Henderson and Kujo at RT.......if Kujo starts playing like was SUPPOSED to then that would unseat Henderson making him the swing OT.  John Miller and Cog should be the guards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 These are 'rich people problems' if true. By this i mean, Miller is as good as billed. CK is ready to go. Henderson has taken a step up from his rookie year. I fully expect Cordy and Wood to be starting. Those are proven guys who will help you win games. Â I think Glenn/Miller/Woods/Cog/Henderson are the starters. CK is the back up right tackle. Henderson can move to LT if need be(injury). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 You don't see too many 6'8" guards out there, do you? Not many. But 49ers had one the last few years in Alex Boone. 6'8 300 Most teams had Glenn has a G coming out of college. Maybe new staff feels that is his best position. Or that he lacks athleticism to play LT in this blocking scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2015/6/3/8718047/could-henderson-kouandjio-be-opening-day-starters  Vic Carcucci of The Buffalo News thinks the Bills and Greg Roman love what they are seeing from Seantrel Henderson at left tackle and Cyrus Kouandjio at right tackle.  probably move him to guard if need be but he is starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015  probably move him to guard if need be but he is starting  IF WE MOVE HIM TO GUARD WE WILL LOSE HIM IN FREE AGENCY  What sense does that make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 You don't see too many 6'8" guards out there, do you? Â Alex Boone 6'8" 300 SF 49s Eric Pears??? And that is how you go from being a 9-7 head coach to coaching the Jacksonville oline. Â Â IF WE MOVE HIM TO GUARD WE WILL LOSE HIM IN FREE AGENCY Â What sense does that make? Â I wouldn't move him to guard just making a hypothetical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 (edited) Read the title......Carucci thinks.....off-season speculation because these guys have nothing to write about and fans are dying for any info on the team   Somebody says that Vic says the Bills like a couple of young lineman.  And from that we get to Cordy will be demoted to 2nd string.  Sounds like the telephone game. Edited June 3, 2015 by hondo in seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015  Alex Boone 6'8" 300 SF 49s   I wouldn't move him to guard just making a hypothetical. BB  You make that hypothetical comment a lot......  I just wonder if you understand the implications of it.  To me Glenn is one of those guys we gotta resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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