HOUSE Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 F4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) It's not that he doesn't want him, he just doesn't fit his scheme. Rex runs a 3-4 and the ILB's have to be athletic, especially on our team, because our "OLB" are going to be our DE's (Hughes, Mario) and they will want them rushing the passer as much as possible. That leaves coverage responsibilities on the ILB on passing downs. This pic shows Rex's typical defensive front. There are 3 down lineman and the ends are actually OLB's. In this pic, Mario (on the left end) has his hand in the ground which would make the offense think he is rushing. However, it may be a disguise and he might actually be acting as a LB and have responsibilities for passes in the flats. The offense won't know until the ball is snapped. But if he is rushing the passer (which is what we pay Mario to do) then that would leave pass coverage responsibilities to that ILB so you need someone who can cover some ground in case the QB throws a quick swing pass to the flats. Spikes has shown that he can't do that and is an easy target to pick on when he is in the game. If the QB sees Mario rush then that FB or HB can run a pass route vs that LB so you need a LB that is good enough in coverage to be able to take that play away. Bradham is super athletic and Brown is athletic enough. Spikes just is not and would fit much better in a 4-3 where he can just play the middle of the field and not have to chase RB's into the flats there are so many more possibilities than just the MLB to cover the flat. The safety could come up. The corner could have the responsibility. If playing in zone where he(MLB) just basically has to be in front of the RB and tackle him after the catch spikes will be fine. There are ways to scheme around a players weakness. if Harris and Bart Scott fit Rex's scheme than Brandon does just fine. Edited March 27, 2015 by kr632 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Look no farther than the offensive side of the ball and Fred Jackson. Not the one year, league minimum part but the part time player/heart and soul aspects. He was also with the team for how long to get there? They got to root for him by watching him bust his butt to earn every opportunity and then make the most of each, I'm not saying spikes isn't capable of filling that even as a part time player, it just popped in my head as an interesting dynamic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Spikes would be good to keep if the Bills had enough cap and roster space. Offense is the higher priority at this point to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyHorseAteTheKid Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Spikes will be sitting home until after the draft... But with the injury to Hightower, don't be surprised to see him with the Pats opening day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Spikes will be sitting home until after the draft... But with the injury to Hightower, don't be surprised to see him with the Pats opening day.... I think that ship sailed a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Spikes will be sitting home until after the draft... But with the injury to Hightower, don't be surprised to see him with the Pats opening day.... haha people would definitely be surprised. there's no chance of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think that ship sailed a long time ago. agreed. he left on ugly terms and i dont imagine either side is eager to swallow pride and mend the issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 @viccarucci: What's left for #Bills in 2nd/3rd phases of FA market? "Maybe get a vet WR," GM Doug Whaley says. "Hopefully get Brandon Spikes back." Another WR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 @viccarucci: What's left for #Bills in 2nd/3rd phases of FA market? "Maybe get a vet WR," GM Doug Whaley says. "Hopefully get Brandon Spikes back." Another WR? That doesn't sound good for Goodwin! I do take these "we're all done" comments with a grain of salt however. Hopefully this is Whaley playing it cool and getting FAs, including Spikes, to accept we don't have money budgeted for them as a negotiating tactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think a WR is the last thing we need. We only have Harvin for 1 year but you can get another guy in FA next year seeing as how guys like Brandon Marshall can be had for 5th round picks. He's probably talking about as backups to add depth but I think Hogan adds depth for Harvin and Woods and maybe they think they need 1 more guy for cheap but I don't think it should be a priority. Goodwin isn't a real WR imo and will probably be cut. I said it when they drafted him and people on here yelled at me. He's a gimmick and he's too small for the NFL (as shown by how he gets hurt every time he gets tackled). He should stick to track and field. I think they are hoping Spikes comes back for cheap as he is a good run stuffing presence and another leader on the defensive side. If they want to talk about building a bully then Spikes add that smash mouth type of play to your team for run plays and short yardage situations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think a WR is the last thing we need. We only have Harvin for 1 year but you can get another guy in FA next year seeing as how guys like Brandon Marshall can be had for 5th round picks. He's probably talking about as backups to add depth but I think Hogan adds depth for Harvin and Woods and maybe they think they need 1 more guy for cheap but I don't think it should be a priority. Goodwin isn't a real WR imo and will probably be cut. I said it when they drafted him and people on here yelled at me. He's a gimmick and he's too small for the NFL (as shown by how he gets hurt every time he gets tackled). He should stick to track and field. I think they are hoping Spikes comes back for cheap as he is a good run stuffing presence and another leader on the defensive side. If they want to talk about building a bully then Spikes add that smash mouth type of play to your team for run plays and short yardage situations Just to clarify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Not to take this Spikes thread off on a tangent, but what decent vet Wrs are still available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Not to take this Spikes thread off on a tangent, but what decent vet Wrs are still available?Crabtree, Denarius Moore, Miles austin, Greg Jennings,Hakeem nicks, Nate Washington. Oh, you said decent. I don't know If any of those guys add value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykaykay Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Crabtree, Denarius Moore, Miles austin, Greg Jennings,Hakeem nicks, Nate Washington. Oh, you said decent. I don't know If any of those guys add value. The old guy, Nate, is the best of the lot. Still remember him beating us in the 4th Q -last minute I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think miles Austin might still be at ECMC after busting his kidney at the Ralph in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 @viccarucci: What's left for #Bills in 2nd/3rd phases of FA market? "Maybe get a vet WR," GM Doug Whaley says. "Hopefully get Brandon Spikes back." Another WR? I think they still want the "throw it up to" guy. Brandon Marshall would've been that guy. They need somebody like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think they still want the "throw it up to" guy. Brandon Marshall would've been that guy. They need somebody like that. If that's the case then draft Devin Funchess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureBillsGM Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 If that's the case then draft Devin Funchess. Whaley was at the Michigan State Pro Day. I wouldn't be shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 If that's the case then draft Devin Funchess.i approve this message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Whaley was at the Michigan State Pro Day. I wouldn't be shocked. Funchess went to Michigan though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Whaley was at the Michigan State Pro Day. I wouldn't be shocked.funchess is a UM guy but maybe Whaley was looking at Lippett at MSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureBillsGM Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Oh....duh..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) I think a WR is the last thing we need. We only have Harvin for 1 year but you can get another guy in FA next year seeing as how guys like Brandon Marshall can be had for 5th round picks. He's probably talking about as backups to add depth but I think Hogan adds depth for Harvin and Woods and maybe they think they need 1 more guy for cheap but I don't think it should be a priority. Goodwin isn't a real WR imo and will probably be cut. I said it when they drafted him and people on here yelled at me. He's a gimmick and he's too small for the NFL (as shown by how he gets hurt every time he gets tackled). He should stick to track and field. I think they are hoping Spikes comes back for cheap as he is a good run stuffing presence and another leader on the defensive side. If they want to talk about building a bully then Spikes add that smash mouth type of play to your team for run plays and short yardage situations You think WR isn't a need because Marshall was had for a 5th round pick? I think you might be leaving out the part about his 10M per contract. Edited March 27, 2015 by Triple Threat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Fun chess heuerman. 2015 Fun chess heuerman. 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 SPIKES ! SPIKES ! SPIKES ! SPIKES ! SPIKES ! SPIKES ! SPIKES ! SPIKES ! funchess is a UM guy but maybe Whaley was looking at Lippett at MSU derailed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) If that's the case then draft Devin Funchess. If only Funchess is there at #50. But Blake Bell should be considered in the 3rd rd at 6'6" Edited March 28, 2015 by the skycap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) If only Funchess is there at #50. But Blake Bell should be considered in the 3rd rd at 6'6"i think he could be there. He's a tweener and too slow to go higher as a WR but doesn't have the NFL TE body yet. He also still has a toe injury and not the greatest hands. I like him with that size though in the slot and red zone as a big WR. Just couldn't play him on the outside. Edited March 28, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 i think he could be there. He's a tweener and too slow to go higher as a WR but doesn't have the NFL TE body yet. He also still has a toe injury and not the greatest hands. I like him with that size though in the slot and red zone as a big WR. Just couldn't play him on the outside. Has there ever been a lateral to a TE who then threw a forward pass in the NFL? Bell could be the first & we know how much Rex loves gadget players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Has there ever been a lateral to a TE who then threw a forward pass in the NFL? Bell could be the first & we know how much Rex loves gadget players.i was talking about Funchess there, but you bring up a good point about Blake Bell in that we currently have a TE who played qb in college - marquiese Grey. Let him throw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Has there ever been a lateral to a TE who then threw a forward pass in the NFL? Bell could be the first & we know how much Rex loves gadget players. The TE double pass is something I've been screaming for for years. It is the missing link. A TE double pass would have taken us to the playoffs on numerous accounts. For the love of God spend our top pick on a capable TE double passer, PLEASE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 The TE double pass is something I've been screaming for for years. It is the missing link. A TE double pass would have taken us to the playoffs on numerous accounts. For the love of God spend our top pick on a capable TE double passer, PLEASE Yes, that's exactly what I said Fluff. Thanks for clarifying it for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) The TE double pass is something I've been screaming for for years. It is the missing link. A TE double pass would have taken us to the playoffs on numerous accounts. For the love of God spend our top pick on a capable TE double passer, PLEASE Everything else they've tried for the last 20 years hasn't worked - bring on the Funchize! Edited March 28, 2015 by Coach Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Quick, write it down on a napkin and email it to RexRoman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Vikings reportedly interested but unwilling to match asking price per Darron Wolfson on Twitter Edited March 28, 2015 by AlwaysBilleve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Not exactly living up to your name!! Oh....duh..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) judging by this guy's twitter, he really, really wants to be back in a bills uniform. perhaps he'd be willing to take a discount to stay in buffalo (probably the only way we could afford him as a role-player, albeit a locker room guy) - maybe whaley's counting on that. BrandonSpikes51 @BrandonSpikes51 1h1 hour ago I'm dying right now !!! Yall should see this group msg I'm in with the Hommies Mario & jerry lmao #Epic face it dude, you want to come back so bad you'll take the minimum contract... ^i don't think the emojis are quite big enough Edited April 8, 2015 by johnwalter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Come on Brandon....its only money man! Lets get the gang back together... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAC'dUp Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Time to settle in and get with the program Brandon, open arms brother! Love to see you back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I think adding Spikes and Landry would make this defense pretty epic. Definitely the best in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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